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Old 05-09-2021, 10:06 AM   #1
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We just bought a new 2021 Ram Power Wagon with the 6.4 hemi. It's sitting on 35s at about 80lbs of air pressure. I knew that it wasn't going to have the full towing capacity of the usual 2500s due to the off road design of it all, but yesterday pulling the camper was a mess. We've got a 9000lb camper, 35' total length. Yesterday it was certainly stupid windy, but our new truck was getting man handled by the trailer. We were barely able to go over 60mph yesterday without it getting too squirrelly back there.

Here's what I've noticed so far:

My spacer in the receiver hitch wobbles a hair, it's a universal sleeve.
On my last setup I really had to lift up the back of the truck to hook up my sway bars. Here, I don't at all. In fact, whenever we got to the camp site I was able to get them off almost by hand. My truck also has air bags, should I mess with those?

Any ideas or thoughts?

I'm positive news, the lulling power in itself is nice.
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Old 05-09-2021, 10:12 AM   #2
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Sounds like more trailer than that truck can handle.
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Old 05-09-2021, 10:42 AM   #3
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Is your hitch set up properly?
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Old 05-09-2021, 10:50 AM   #4
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Sounds like you need to look at the entire hitch set up. I think what your calling sway bars is the spring bars. You should not be able to get them off by hand.

Does it have a sway controller on it? This is the thing that slides back and forth when you turn and has a set bolt that you crank down.

Just sounds like your hitch set up needs to be tweaked for the new truck.
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Old 05-09-2021, 11:02 AM   #5
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The power wagon has less towing capability than my chevy 1/2 ton. I was looking at one but passed for that reason but with a good equalizer hitch you should be good.
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Old 05-09-2021, 11:04 AM   #6
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Windy days can be no fun to tow something since the trailer is basically just a big wind sail. Check the trailer tire pressure. If they arenít the same it can impact the tow. If you really want to eliminate trailer sway check out propridehitch.com


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Old 05-09-2021, 11:07 AM   #7
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Sounds to me like you need a weight distribution hitch.

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Old 05-09-2021, 11:20 AM   #8
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Get a Hensley or pro pride expensive but sway is gone.
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Old 05-09-2021, 11:20 AM   #9
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Post up some pics of your hitch setup on both truck & trailer
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:02 PM   #10
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Thatís a big tongue pull trailer, even for a regular 3/4 ton much less a softly sprung one.

Would need more info on your hitch setup to offer much advice.


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Old 05-09-2021, 12:14 PM   #11
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The wind was your biggest problem yesterday, a better hitch and if the truck has air bags why would you even ask a silly question like that? LOL hell yes you should be airing them up. That squishy rear end needs to be stable..

I have a 4500 and the wind was giving me fits yesterday pulling a tractor down the road, I can’t imagine what a big camper would have felt like in 30 plus MPH winds.
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:21 PM   #12
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Sounds like hitch is not properly adjusted, truck tires likely over inflated and it was wind AF
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:28 PM   #13
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Your hitch is set up wrong. You should have to lift your truck to get the bars off. The way you are towing now, all that weight is falling on your trucks hitch, as opposed to being distributed across the truck and trailer frame. I bet it rode like absolute crap over bumps.

Also, you are correct. That truck is not meant to pull. In addition to the softer springs, it's significantly lighter than a 3/4 ton non-power wagon. The regular 3/4 ton, with a diesel, is about 400 lbs heavier. Which doesn't sound like much, but considering your whole truck is 7000 lbs (ish), that's relatively significant. Not to mention most of that additional 400 lbs is located over the front axle which would help pull the trailer in the wind.
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:32 PM   #14
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Too much weight at back end of trailer can make them squirrelly. Lower tongue height could help
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:36 PM   #15
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In addition to everything the others said, I'm not a fan of that spacer sleeve to get down to 2" hitch. Buy a 2.5" hitch and get rid of it. That sleeve in mine had tons of wobble and is too loose for my liking. Be sure that trailer and drop hitch height is correct, if it's not level a dual axle or even single to a lesser extent can pull weird and flop all over.
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Old 05-09-2021, 12:44 PM   #16
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I have a 2018 Ram 2500 with a 6.4 and 35ís. I pull my 30 ft travel trailer that weighs about 8,500 lbs. the first time I pulled it I had some sway and it bounced a lot. I have air bags and once I aired them up everything was good. I donít use a weight distribution hitch.


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Old 05-09-2021, 01:05 PM   #17
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Trailer has to be level
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:33 PM   #18
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In addition to everything the others said, I'm not a fan of that spacer sleeve to get down to 2" hitch. Buy a 2.5" hitch and get rid of it. That sleeve in mine had tons of wobble and is too loose for my liking. Be sure that trailer and drop hitch height is correct, if it's not level a dual axle or even single to a lesser extent can pull weird and flop all over.
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:39 PM   #19
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Check the hitch setup, sounds like the truck is taller than the last one and there isn’t enough tension on the sway bars. If it’s to tongue heavy on the hitch it will whip the truck around like you are saying. When I pulled a 34ft camper even with my cummins I ran dual sway bars to keep it settled in the wind. Next trailer will be fifth wheel just for that reason.
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Old 05-09-2021, 01:44 PM   #20
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Lots of thoughts here. Tomorrow whenever I hook up I'll take some pictures. We're at a level campsite so it should be a good take.

I've never had airbags before. The trailer really doesn't squat the truck much at all, which I thought was the main purpose of the air bag, to correct the squat.

Yes I didn't mean sway bars, I mean the spring bars. My last setup was a tundra pulling a 7000lb camper. It pulled like a freaking dream. The spring bars on it were insanely tight and hard to get on. It popped and chirped with turning.

I assumed as this one was set up for my truck at the travel trailer dealership that they'd have set it up well. Which in reality makes me feel foolish.
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Old 05-09-2021, 02:41 PM   #21
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Your bumping the outer limit of the Power Wagon's capabilities. The 2021 Power Wagon with RamBox is rated for 10,290. Without the RamBox, 10,580. That's about 6,000 pounds less than a non-Power Wagon 2500 with the 4.10 rear end (which the Power Wagon has). Add in yesterday's wind and the potential hitch problems others have noted, it's not surprising you had issues. Even if the hitch was configured correctly, a 35 foot, 9000 pound trailer in that wind is gonna be a little challenging.

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Old 05-09-2021, 03:49 PM   #22
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We just bought a new 2021 Ram Power Wagon with the 6.4 hemi. It's sitting on 35s at about 80lbs of air pressure. I knew that it wasn't going to have the full towing capacity of the usual 2500s due to the off road design of it all, but yesterday pulling the camper was a mess. We've got a 9000lb camper, 35' total length. Yesterday it was certainly stupid windy, but our new truck was getting man handled by the trailer. We were barely able to go over 60mph yesterday without it getting too squirrelly back there.

Here's what I've noticed so far:

My spacer in the receiver hitch wobbles a hair, it's a universal sleeve.
On my last setup I really had to lift up the back of the truck to hook up my sway bars. Here, I don't at all. In fact, whenever we got to the camp site I was able to get them off almost by hand. My truck also has air bags, should I mess with those?

Any ideas or thoughts?

I'm positive news, the lulling power in itself is nice.
A trailer of that size is going to manhandle a proper 3/4 to regardless when the wind is blowing like crazy. You go to the softer suspension of the Power Wagon and itíll be MUCH more noticeable.
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:09 PM   #23
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Windy days can be no fun to tow something since the trailer is basically just a big wind sail. Check the trailer tire pressure. If they arenít the same it can impact the tow. If you really want to eliminate trailer sway check out propridehitch.com


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Wow! $$$ Do you have a Pro Pride Hitch?
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:14 PM   #24
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Post a pic of your rig all hooked up. I’m pretty sure I know what’s wrong but would like to see a pic
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Old 05-09-2021, 05:41 PM   #25
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Wow! $$$ Do you have a Pro Pride Hitch?

We recently sold our travel trailer, but we had a Pro Pride hitch. It was worth the money and totally eliminated the trailer away. The owner of the company is super responsive and answered all my questions before and after the sale.


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Old 05-09-2021, 05:58 PM   #26
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I may be wrong with todays rigs, but years ago a camper place told me the front of the truck should go down about as much as the rear hitch when properly hooked up.
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:53 PM   #27
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Check out the Equalizer weight distribution hitch. They are awesome for sway control also.
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Old 05-09-2021, 06:59 PM   #28
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Wind. Gusts to 40-45 mph. where I was at yesterday.
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:25 PM   #29
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Lots of thoughts here. Tomorrow whenever I hook up I'll take some pictures. We're at a level campsite so it should be a good take.

I've never had airbags before. The trailer really doesn't squat the truck much at all, which I thought was the main purpose of the air bag, to correct the squat.

Yes I didn't mean sway bars, I mean the spring bars. My last setup was a tundra pulling a 7000lb camper. It pulled like a freaking dream. The spring bars on it were insanely tight and hard to get on. It popped and chirped with turning.

I assumed as this one was set up for my truck at the travel trailer dealership that they'd have set it up well. Which in reality makes me feel foolish.


If the trailer didnít squat the truck at all then you have too little tongue weight. This can be helped by how the trailer is loaded, I even moved my spare tire off the back bumper and put it under the front bed. Until you reach max tongue weight the more you can get up front the better.
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Old 05-10-2021, 12:19 AM   #30
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I kinda get lost in all the do dads the truck Market has , and am a simpleton, and could live with 1/2 ton being gas with max tow 9000, 3/4 gas only max tow 14,000
Then 1 ton only one offered with a 1000 lbs torque diesel or gasoline choice for HD towing
Raptor and power wagon , rampage no towing equipment ( they are specifically designed for off-road) , IMO you can plow a field with a mule , but not with a jackrabbit
Let the mules do the work and the jackrabbits do the running around
Who ever decided to put a 2 1/2 hitch on a under rated truck should be kicked in the taint
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Old 05-10-2021, 07:02 AM   #31
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High truck ,High tires,High load,High speed,Long load..and with HIGH Gusty wind all add up To PROBLEMS
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