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    You don't own your property

    Just my luck owning property where an endangered species might live. I got a survey asking all kinds of questions. Basically wanting you to enter into an agreement with the state and feds to preserve or enhance houston toad habitat. There was a question and answer part and here's what I find interesting.

    Q: How will landowners benefit from this Safe Harbor Agreement?
    A: The Agreement provides incentives to private landowners to ease their Endangered Species Act liability concerns while still allowing them the opportunity to actively participate in Houston toad recovery. In exchange for their recovery actions on behalf of the toad, participating property owners receive assurances from the Service that if they fulfill the conditions of the agreement, the Service will not require any additional or different management activities without their consent. In addition, at the end of the agreement period, participants may return the enrolled property to the baseline conditions that existed at the beginning of the agreement
    So the way I'm reading this you either enter into the agreement or they can force you to do whatever they want with "your" property. Ain't no way I'm agreeing to anything with any government agency. Welcome to socialism where you don't own anything. Pay your yearly rent and then have the government tell you what you can and can't do because of some god**** frog that is too stupid to change with the times.

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    Originally posted by M16 View Post
    Just my luck owning property where an endangered species might live. I got a survey asking all kinds of questions. Basically wanting you to enter into an agreement with the state and feds to preserve or enhance houston toad habitat. There was a question and answer part and here's what I find interesting.



    So the way I'm reading this you either enter into the agreement or they can force you to do whatever they want with "your" property. Ain't no way I'm agreeing to anything with any government agency. Welcome to socialism where you don't own anything. Pay your yearly rent and then have the government tell you what you can and can't do because of some god**** frog that is too stupid to change with the times.
    What frogs? Frogone!!

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      #3
      Sure don’t, you just pay for the right to rent it from the Goobermint.

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        #4
        The Houston Toad thing is a **** farce. The oilfield has had to deal with it for several years now. Leaf lickers !

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          #5
          Yea, nobody gives a **** about that **** frog. It’s all about getting access and eventually ownership I’m sure.


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            #6
            Can you post a picture of a Houston Toad so I can be sure there are none on my property? Next, what chemicals kill Houston toads, so I can be sure there are none on my property?

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              #7
              If you don't pay the ever growing taxes, you lose it as well.

              Even after 3 - 5 generations of paying as well.

              By the time it all plays out, YOUR BLOODLINE paid for it, and the entire south side of Chicago and Detroit too!

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                #8
                Since the enactment of property taxes people have ceased to own their property. If they can tax it, they can take it.

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                  #9
                  ****! I hope I don’t get that survey!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by M16 View Post
                    Just my luck owning property where an endangered species might live. I got a survey asking all kinds of questions. Basically wanting you to enter into an agreement with the state and feds to preserve or enhance houston toad habitat. There was a question and answer part and here's what I find interesting.



                    So the way I'm reading this you either enter into the agreement or they can force you to do whatever they want with "your" property. Ain't no way I'm agreeing to anything with any government agency. Welcome to socialism where you don't own anything. Pay your yearly rent and then have the government tell you what you can and can't do because of some god**** frog that is too stupid to change with the times.
                    This is exactly the way I interpreted this. You have two options: you volunteer to participate or your voluntold to participate. Then at the end of that period you have the option of returning the property to its original use or condition.
                    Personally I would capture everyone of those little bastiges I could find and relocate them. I’m total for conservation but sometimes this shat goes too far. Let nature run its course and leave landowners alone. I can’t think of anyone on here that doesn’t care about and actively seek to enhance or protect the wildlife on their property or lease, other than hogs and that’s understandable. If the Marxist get their way private land ownership will be a thing of the past. What’s to keep bureaucrats from arbitrarily declaring copperheads endangered or June bugs? You see where this can go? Keep us posted.

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                      #11
                      I hope that **** ain’t county wide.

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                        #12
                        You don’t own anything in this life !

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                          #13
                          Years ago the wife and I were looking at some property and really did like it. Luckily, my agent knew it was in the "Toad" area and told us that we would likely be required to do thins we might not want to do and that it could actually be hard to sell because of the TOAD........ we did not pursue that property!!!! Good luck!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by sasqy View Post
                            You don’t own anything in this life !
                            Kinda hurts if you really think too deep about that, but those are wise words from a Sasquatch. Seems like always a bigger fish in this Life Ocean looking at you as dinner.

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                              #15
                              Just tell them you poisoned all of them several years ago so there any to worry about.


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