Why do we lie to our kids?

[andre3k]

Originally Posted by dope hunter

So did you believe in Santa as a kid? If so, was it so horrible that you don’t want your kids to believe that he is real? My parents taught me to believe Christmas was about celebrating the birth of Jesus, but Santa was also a part of the Holiday tradition as well. The 2 can be separated. My kids believe in Santa, and I love my wife and I being able to be their Santa!

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My parents never really made me believe in Santa. I always knew that they purchased the gifts. It didn't bother me one bit growing up either. I didn't get into the whole Santa thing until I married my wife.

[SabreKiller]

Originally Posted by andre3k

When we let them believe or even propagate the belief in Santa Claus at Christmas time. I'm guilty of it, but it feels weird to teach my kids the importance telling the truth and honesty and then lie to them about Santa Claus.

What do you mean there is no Santa Claus. There IS a Santa Claus!!!

[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by RR 314

My kids are all jacked up now. Years of psychobabble in their future. It all goes back to them busting me moving that dang elf on the shelf. They realized it had no magical powers and mom and dad touched the poor thing and not only did that not zap him of his powers; he never had powers to begin with! They had “My parents are FRAUDS” t-shirts made and rarely leave their rooms during what was formerly known as Christmas season. Parents have sought counseling, Eastern spiritual guidance, hot yoga and chiropractic care. Sadly, nothing has worked.

Hah! Great response!

[OleTomTalker]

Originally Posted by andre3k

My parents never really made me believe in Santa. I always knew that they purchased the gifts. It didn't bother me one bit growing up either. I didn't get into the whole Santa thing until I married my wife.

Well I hope you've learned your lesson from this thread!! According to most these posts, you must be a horrible parent if you at all question going against what is considered socially normal and acceptable. You must at once conform or as one of em mentioned "find some better parents for em".


Gotta admit some these responses caught me way offguard.

[mbf]

Are you serious Clark?

[Big Mike M]

So the Tooth Fairy and Easter Bunny aren’t real? Let’s just ruin all the fun for the kids these days.

[Mayhem]

My kids know that Christmas is about the birth of Jesus Christ and also believe or have believed in Santa.

You can have it both ways.


My daughter soon to be 13 knows Santa isn’t real but plays along because she doesn’t want to spoil the fun for her brother who is soon to be 10.

Not everything is black and white.


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[CaptainDave]

Originally Posted by PYBUCK

You might as well go ahead and Squash the Easter bunny, Tooth Fairy and their imagination while you at it.

X2

I can't imagine how some of you get through daily life.

The Santa Clause lie? You mean that deal that goes on from maybe the age of 3 up to primary school? Kids in that age range don't even know the full difference between real and fake. Heck, most of them believe Disney characters are real at that age. Yes, let's squash their dreams and imaginations and let them grow up like robots.

I agree, kids should learn the true meaning of Christmas and it is about Christ and not all about Santa and gifts. When I was a kid, we used to always go to Christmas Eve service to start the celebration. It was my Grandparents and Parents way of telling us what should come first.

[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by andre3k

As a parent I would hope that we want to teach our kids the truth. The truth about the birth of Jesus Christ as written in the Holy Bible and being able to discern that from man's traditions that have somehow crept in over the centuries.

To be a Christian parent and teaching my kids about Christ and the bible. It would seem unfathomable to include Santa Claus and reindeer into that narrative. But yet I have done it.

I can't teach my children the truth while telling them a lie.

While I believe in your right to raise your children in any way you see fit, I must respectfully disagree with your position.

I have a 30-year-old daughter who believed in Santa Clause for, maybe, the first six years of her life when someone else’s child told her “the truth.” She was also raised a Christian, believes in all the tenets it teaches, and, to this day, is soundly guided by them.

Today, she is a hard-working, productive member of society who believes in the rule of law, understands the importance that the in-tact nuclear family has on society, is compassionate, giving, firm, fearless, and a lover of adventure. In other words, she is very well-balanced and well-adjusted.

…and she STILL believes in Santa Claus!

[Lost10mm]

My whole family (parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles) brought us up going to church, attending all the holiday services, and still celebrating the Christmas tree and Santa. I believed in Santa as a child and I didn't lose an ounce of trust in my family when I learned otherwise because I understood why they let me believe. That was part of letting me have a childhood. I just thought everyone was combining the religious background as well as the cultural side.


A question for those of you on the "keep it jesus" train - how does the date, pine tree covered in lights and ornaments, candy canes, gingerbread, and stockings translate to celebrating Jesus? After all, Jesus was in the Middle East. Do you not incorporate any of those things in December?

[2B4Him]

There are certainly lots of 'lies' out there we need to vociferously combat. Like:
Rabbits (Bugs Bunny) can talk.
Curly could still see after Moe poked his fingers into his eyes.
Big purple dinosaurs can sing.
Turtles can go all 'Ninja' on someone.
Grab the pitchforks! Let's go!!!

[Dale Moser]

Originally Posted by andre3k

To be a Christian parent and teaching my kids about Christ and the bible. It would seem unfathomable to include Santa Claus and reindeer into that narrative. But yet I have done it.

I can't teach my children the truth while telling them a lie.

Apparently, you can. In your mind, that's what you've been doing. If you have to ask questions about how to reconcile "Santa Clause" in your mind, navigating the rest of the world must be impossible.

What is the real reason you're grasping for attention? That's really seems to be all this is.

[tvc184]

Originally Posted by Graysonhogs

To all you people who say "is it deer season yet?", I give you Exhibit A. It doesn't matter. In fact, some of the posts are even weirder DURING season.

Tags must be filled…..

[chastings77]

Originally Posted by SaltwaterSlick

Take this **** to the PACE! This **** argument has been going on since there has been an America, maybe longer! It ain't gonna be solved here and it's totally a waste of time.
Guess this is one time I should have hit the back button, but ****!

SaltwaterSlick, what happened to this guy:
CHRISTWASLOVE

[doright]

I can see where you want your kids to understand that Jesus is real and santa is fake , but the part about not not lying to them is a bit off. If you only were to tell the truth would you tell them they are ugly as soap or that they were stupid? No you try and encourage them to feel good about them selves. Kids are a lot smarter than you give them credit for. There are a lot of things they can figure out on their own. With this logic they would not be allowed to watch anything other than factual documentaries. TV and movies are fake. The truth is good but so is letting a kid be a kid.

[andre3k]

Originally Posted by Dale Moser

Apparently, you can.

What is the real reason you're grasping for attention? That's really all this is.

I guess my question really triggered a lot of people on here. It was a question that I posed to myself after I was discussing honesty and telling the truth with my own kids. My wife mentioned Elf on the Shelf and I wasn't feeling it this year. I just talked to my kids about being honest and not lying, and then I would turn right around a perpetuate a lie about an elf. It didn't seem right to me.

[OleTomTalker]

Originally Posted by chastings77

SaltwaterSlick, what happened to this guy:
CHRISTWASLOVE

[Chew]

I was close with about 19 cousins that were all roughly the same age. 16 of us believed in santa. 2 grew up knowing there was no Santa. Those two are doing long stints in TDCJ. There's your evidence.

[andre3k]

Originally Posted by Chew

I was close with about 19 cousins that were all roughly the same age. 16 of us believed in santa. 2 grew up knowing there was no Santa. Those two are doing long stints in TDCJ. There's your evidence.

what happened to the last cousin?

[Chew]

Originally Posted by andre3k

what happened to the last cousin?

He was killed by a reindeer that was rutting hard. We don't like to talk about it.

[J-5]

Originally Posted by soldierarcher

Because kids are pure and as a parent, we hope to walk them into the reality of how cruel life can be and not just kick them into the deep end of the pool.

It's our job as parents to lead our children into becoming stand up people. Same as teaching them to manage money, build a foundation to earn a living, etc....

This is about as good of an explanation as can be told.

[Barney1971]

Originally Posted by AntlerCollector

Another added to the list of things I never thought I’d see on TBH

Man... no joke, and during huntin season. way off topic, but it sure is gonna be good huntin weather this weekend.

[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by Chew

He was killed by a reindeer that was rutting hard. We don't like to talk about it.

Winner of Best Response on this thread!


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[GarGuy]

Andre... go watch Polar Express and chill out.

[cactusassjohn]

RIP Santa Claus

[tvc184]

Originally Posted by andre3k

I guess my question really triggered a lot of people on here. It was a question that I posed to myself after I was discussing honesty and telling the truth with my own kids. My wife mentioned Elf on the Shelf and I wasn't feeling it this year. I just talked to my kids about being honest and not lying, and then I would turn right around a perpetuate a lie about an elf. It didn't seem right to me.

In the colloquial language of the day, triggered or triggering a response has a negative connotation. To be triggered is to be angered.

Your OP is quite the opposite unless you want to imply that it has triggered comedy and amusement.

It appears that the person triggered is you upon finding out that almost no one has embraced your enlightened childhood at an early age.

Your conclusion tells it all… “I wasn’t feeling it”.

Absolutely!! Because you missed out on part of fond childhood memories, you want to pass on that missing enjoyment.

You’re entitled.

So are we.

I am not a psychologist but I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night….

[Kirby86]

https://www.christianpost.com/news/h...weighs-in.html


Dr. Mohler says it a lot better than I can!

[AntlerCollector]

OP, do you believe in dinosaurs? Do your kids? Just curious

[CEO]

What if you don't roll Holy, but still love Christmas?

[tvc184]

Originally Posted by GarGuy

Andre... go watch Polar Express and chill out.

Ruldoph The Red-Nosed Reindeer

I liked the Romeo and Juliet moment when Clarice found out that Rudolph had a red nose but fell in love with him and that made daddy reindeer mad and forced them apart.

But it didn’t work…..

Clarice then put on what might have been the cartoon move of all time when she told Ruldoph later that any doe would be lucky to be with you. She must have been enlightened at an early age about the rut.

Of course I am emotionally damaged since I found out it was all a lie.

[UrbanBuck]

Originally Posted by Clearfork51

Good grief don’t you have better things to consider?

for real, who wakes and says hmmm.... i think ill post this random thought on a hunting forum. There are more posts about non-hunting related topics on here than there are hunting posts.

[rileydog]

Originally Posted by andre3k

As a parent I would hope that we want to teach our kids the truth. The truth about the birth of Jesus Christ as written in the Holy Bible and being able to discern that from man's traditions that have somehow crept in over the centuries.

To be a Christian parent and teaching my kids about Christ and the bible. It would seem unfathomable to include Santa Claus and reindeer into that narrative. But yet I have done it.

I can't teach my children the truth while telling them a lie.

I can appreciate your purpose, but if you do some research, the Santa parable is actually based on a true Christian person. I feel like with my kids, we were able to enjoy the parable and still worship, follow, and share about the true story of Christmas of being Immanuel, "Christ with us."

[rut-ro]

Some people on here tell their spouses, friends and families they are bow hunters, What's the difference ?

[Graysonhogs]

Originally Posted by rut-ro

Some people on here tell their spouses, friends and families they are bow hunters, What's the difference ?

Boom goes the dynamite

[Redfeathers]

Once upon a time, ah **** forget about it, never mind!
Chew, prayers up for your cousin, must have been a rough time being taking out by a rutting reindeer.

[Black-N-Red]

Originally Posted by rut-ro

Some people on here tell their spouses, friends and families they are bow hunters, What's the difference ?

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[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by droebuck

So when your kid comes to you at age 3 and ask where babies come from you give them the full birds and bees talk at 3? By your logic every question asked by your kids should be answered with absolute truth and that just doesn’t work with the evil world we live in. Unless you want them mentally scarred at a very young age.

Yes, they should be answered with the truth, but with answers only to the question asked.

Where do babies come from? From mommy (and ONLY from mommy…)


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[rladner]

"Do these jeans make my butt look big?"

No idea what your wife looks like so not implying anything, just trying to make a point and you get my gist. Sometimes self preservation comes first

[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by Kirby86

https://www.christianpost.com/news/h...weighs-in.html


Dr. Mohler says it a lot better than I can!

Great article, though I’m not sure I agree with all of it. The premise is that Santa Claus is a metaphor for the Christian values of giving and the importance of caring for our children.


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[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by CEO

What if you don't roll Holy, but still love Christmas?

Then you should definitely celebrate, if for no other reason than that you are contributing to the most significant economic stimulus factor in a consumer driven economy! A rising tide lifts all boats.


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[Buck Slayer]

Originally Posted by droebuck

So when your kid comes to you at age 3 and ask where babies come from you give them the full birds and bees talk at 3? By your logic every question asked by your kids should be answered with absolute truth and that just doesn’t work with the evil world we live in. Unless you want them mentally scarred at a very young age.

This is the unsung hero of comments right here...

[SaltwaterSlick]

Originally Posted by chastings77

SaltwaterSlick, what happened to this guy:
CHRISTWASLOVE

Still here. Few things have changed however... After several life events, including burying my only son, I have decided to stand for Christ no matter what. Believing in Santa Claus has zippo with defending Christ. It's a family, national and even a world tradition. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I can love someone strongly and disagree with them, even not "like" them. It's not hard to do with the mindset of Christ. To have someone pass judgement on parents/grandparents/families because they choose to celebrate Christmas by including family traditions is ludicrous and I called it out. The subject is as old as Santa Claus... It gets brought up every year and has NEVER been resolved and will NEVER be resolved. THAT's why I suggested to take it to the PACE forum.
I hope you have a great Christmas Season however you choose to celebrate it.

[SaltwaterSlick]

Originally Posted by Chew

He was killed by a reindeer that was rutting hard. We don't like to talk about it.

Hook, line and sinker!!

[TreyRo]

Lol.

You do you.

My kids still believe in Santa. I'm okay with it.

[SJP51]

Christmas has nothing to do with a mystical Santa Claus. We taught our kids and celebrated the birth of Christ. Teach them young. Let them see you celebrate and worship the Lord. It's the only way to go.

[Hogmauler]

Santa’s not real? Dammit man!

[Graysonhogs]

Originally Posted by SJP51

Christmas has nothing to do with a mystical Santa Claus. We taught our kids and celebrated the birth of Christ. Teach them young. Let them see you celebrate and worship the Lord. It's the only way to go.

They can see that 365 days a year, and a little "santa" isn't going to detract from that at all. So no presents either?

[Hogmauler]

Just let it run it’s course bro. Kids find out. And when they do it kinda takes away the magic of Christmas. At least it did for me. Enjoy the season while telling them the “reason for the season”.

[Gumbo Man]

I have nothing. Absolutely nothing !!

[donpablo]

And we wonder why we have so many conspiracy theorists on here. Lol. OP, Treyro said it best. Only you can decide how to raise your kids. I'm sorry so many on here chose to "pass judgement" on your parenting decision because you have chosen not to continue the Santa tradition. I'm also sorry everyone jumped on you for trying to discuss some trivial, non-hunting subject. 90% of the threads on here are trivial, non-hunting threads. Good luck with your kiddos.