The Official 2019 TBH APR Special Thread! - TexasBowhunter.com Community Discussion Forums

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 03:09 PM

What it is:

Tier -1 Light Weight Carbon/Carbon build
Action – APR Hunter. DLC coated bolt and 20 MOA rail
Barrel – Proof Research Sendero profile. Threaded 5/8-24 with blended thread protector. You choose chamber, Bbl length, twist.
Stock – AG Composites Alpine Hunter. Stock will include bi-pod rail, 2 flush cups and inserts provided for Arca Rail adapter. You choose color/finish.
Bottom Metal – Gen 2 APR BDL(Black Hard Anodized)
Trigger – Trigger Tech Primary.
Cerakote – You choose color for action body and CF barrel tips.
Left-handed versions available
Price = $2,499 plus tax
Approx weight = 7lbs

Tier -2 Carbon/Steel build
Action – APR Gen 2. Full DLC finish and 20 MOA rail
Barrel – MullerWorks Cut-rifled Sendero profile. Threaded 5/8-24 with blended thread protector. You choose chamber, Bbl length, twist and fluting.
Stock – AG Composites Alpine Hunter. Stock will include bi-pod rail, 2 flush cups and inserts provided for Arca Rail adapter. You choose color/finish.
Bottom Metal – Gen 2 APR BDL(Black Hard Anodized)
Trigger – Trigger Tech Primary.
Cerakote – Action is DLC coated black. You choose barrel color.
Left-handed versions available
Price = $2,199 plus tax
Approx Weight = 8 lbs

Available Upgrades:
Trigger upgrades - TT Special +$55/TT Diamond +$140
Bottom Metal - Hawkins DBM w/ 5 rnd Accurate mag +$150
Muzzle Brakes - Area 419 Hellfire +$179/ Blended Radial +$125/ Blended and timed Gill +$150
Stock Paint – Custom stencil patterns +$250

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 03:10 PM

How to participate:

Ordering period will open @10:00am on Tuesday, Jan 29th and close at 6:00pm on Friday, Feb 15th. Call the shop anytime at 817-284-0034 during business hours to place your order during that timeframe. We will do our best to return all calls if you leave a message, but we can get extremely busy up front and at times the mailbox can get full, so please don’t hesitate to call back if you don’t get a return call in a timely manner. A 50% deposit will be required at the time order is placed, with the remaining 50% due upon completion.

The 2019 TBH special “is what it is”. We tried to create a robust package of features to address as many folks wants/needs as possible based on everyone’s input. We even added a second option this year to accommodate some of the earlier requests. These builds are are pretty much set in stone as far as the components and pricing goes, so please understand that there will be no substitutions for components. We did create a list of common “upgrades” to help offer a little more flexibility and customization.

Things to consider when ordering:
-Given all of the DLC/Anodization/Carbon fiber on these builds, there isn’t a whole lot of metal to be cerakoted. The stock will be the main canvas to set the tone for the looks of the gun.
-Stocks – Will start as bare carbon fiber finished.

They look good. You are welcome to leave them as is, or

1.Choose any of the 4 carbon/camo finishes I originally posted

2.Choose any of the sponge or “ambush” patterns like we used last year(I advise visiting our FB or Instagram account for a ton of examples to choose from).

3.Choose any of AG Composite’s “house” camos. Some are awesome and certainly worth looking at before making a decision.

4.Basically any pattern that doesn’t require stencils is fair game. If you see a reference out there that you like, I strongly suggest you email us a picture when placing your order.

-Guys doing 6.5 PRC builds, know that this round works better on the long version of this action, and we are going to have a strong desire to lead you that direction when you call. There are also some trade-offs to running Wyatt’s extended mag boxes with this ejector set-up, and we’re probably going to try to steer you clear of them as well. Both of these issues were covered pretty extensively in the planning post, so I won’t re-hash it all here. In the end, it’s your decision to make.
-Hope this one does not come across as rude, but please have a good idea of what you want, or at least what your intended uses will be before calling to place an order. I’ll do my best to help you decide here based on my experience(along with many others here), but my front counter guys while well-versed at building rifles, will not have in the field experience with a wide number of options to get you dialed in on a final selection quickly.

Thanks to everyone on TBH for getting another one of these going again, and we look forward to getting this year’s TBH builds rolling!

Thanks,
Robert
Alamo Precision Rifles

H-D · 02-07-2019, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stick1

How to participate:

Ordering period will open @10:00am on Tuesday, Jan 29th and close at 6:00pm on Friday, Feb 15th.

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Smoothing Iron · 02-07-2019, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by H-D

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Hopefully the 15th is right...

ColinR · 01-28-2019, 03:22 PM

Robert. Do you have a picture of DLC black cerakote that is on the action? Is that a flat black or ??? I'm pretty sure I will want barrel to match the action so just curios what that will look like. Maybe a picture of a complete rifle in that color.

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinR

Robert. Do you have a picture of DLC black cerakote that is on the action? Is that a flat black or ??? I'm pretty sure I will want barrel to match the action so just curios what that will look like. Maybe a picture of a complete rifle in that color.

About as close as you can get to Graphite Black, but just tougher and slicker

robie · 01-28-2019, 03:24 PM

Robert - Are you still shooting for an April completion of these rifles? Or did that change after you talked to Proof?

Txarrowhunter · 01-28-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by robie

Robert - Are you still shooting for an April completion of these rifles? Or did that change after you talked to Proof?

Yes did the eta change considering the proof change?

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by robie

Robert - Are you still shooting for an April completion of these rifles? Or did that change after you talked to Proof?

Awaiting a return call from Proof to confirm. My gut tells me that may-June is the answer I'm going to get, but we'll see.

bphillips · 01-28-2019, 03:47 PM

This is the regular sendero profile?

Approx 7lb with SA or LA?

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bphillips

This is the regular sendero profile?

Approx 7lb with SA or LA?

Yes, its not the Sendero light. And yes, that's for the S/A. Depending on Bbl length/chamber and bore diameter, it could vary 1/2lb either way.

bphillips · 01-28-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Stick1

Yes, its not the Sendero light. And yes, that's for the S/A. Depending on Bbl length/chamber and bore diameter, it could vary 1/2lb either way.

I got rid of my last one for being 7.75lb and started moving to light weights. I’m thinking a 28nos would be back close to that once it was done

I’ll think on it

Txarrowhunter · 01-28-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bphillips

I got rid of my last one for being 7.75lb and started moving to light weights. I’m thinking a 28nos would be back close to that once it was done

I’ll think on it

So there’s two sendero profiles with proof... I have several proof barreled rifle and I just now found this out. After looking at their website I see sendero is fatter I guess? Any reason not doing the sendero lite?

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Txarrowhunter

So there’s two sendero profiles with proof... I have several proof barreled rifle and I just now found this out. After looking at their website I see sendero is fatter I guess? Any reason not doing the sendero lite?

There is a couple reasons. Rigidity being the main factor. For a couple of oz's more, you end up with a stiffer barrel and a larger muzzle diameter that will translate to more efficient muzzle brake performance. In theory, the stiffer barrel should be more tolerant of load variances accross the board. If we were trying to build an ultra-light or a fly-weight, we would have selected the lighter contour for sure. This build will have the footprint, ergos and capability of a heavy long range rig, but still come in lighter than a standard weight bolt action.

robie · 01-28-2019, 03:50 PM

Robert, thank you for doing this and the excellent price. This is what I'm coming up with for parts if I just ordered them before gunsmithing:

Action APR - Hunter - $799
Barrel Proof Sendero - $830
Stock AG Composites Alpine Hunter (2 Cups, Rail) - $634
Bottom Metal APR BDL - $150
Trigger Trigger Tech - $145

Barrell Threading - $75
Cerakote - $125

Total - $2,758

Phillip Fields · 01-28-2019, 04:09 PM

On the Tier 1 are we restricted to the barrel lengths listed on the Proof Research website?

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Phillip Fields

On the Tier 1 are we restricted to the barrel lengths listed on the Proof Research website?

Yes sir, can't do much about that.

Buzzsaw · 01-28-2019, 04:09 PM

whats a Arca rail adapter?

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

whats a Arca rail adapter?

Tripod adapter

Txhuntr2 · 01-28-2019, 05:23 PM

Is it possible to have the barrel and action coated in the same camo pattern as the stock? Like an ambush pattern?

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Txhuntr2

Is it possible to have the barrel and action coated in the same camo pattern as the stock? Like an ambush pattern?

I can't promise how it will look, but I'd say it was possible.

oneeye · 01-28-2019, 06:11 PM

What a great offer this is Robert. I just can't imagine how many questions you have to answer!

And your patience level for answering them all.

ColinR · 01-28-2019, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by oneeye

What a great offer this is Robert. I just can't imagine how many questions you have to answer!

And your patience level for answering them all.

Boy that's no lie. I only ask about 1 out of 500 I really have and still feel like I'm asking to many. But Robert never acts like he is in a hurry and answer each one very thoroughly. Definitely has the patience of Job.

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinR

Boy that's no lie. I only ask about 1 out of 500 I really have and still feel like I'm asking to many. But Robert never acts like he is in a hurry and answer each one very thoroughly. Definitely has the patience of Job.

Ask away!

150class · 01-28-2019, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stick1

Ask away!

Robert,

Just sent you a PM.

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 150class

Robert,

Just sent you a PM.

On it!

sahunter · 01-28-2019, 06:26 PM

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keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 06:29 PM

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I saw this one on AG Composite’s Instagram. Is this one doable and is it still considered a stencil-less pattern?

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

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I saw this one on AG Composite’s Instagram. Is this one doable and is it still considered a stencil-less pattern?

Yep! Anything coming straight from them is good to go. Stencil stuff will be things like kryptec, hard-line GAP, etc.

keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stick1

Yep! Anything coming straight from them is good to go. Stencil stuff will be things like kryptec, hard-line GAP, etc.

Gotcha. I wasn't sure because I cannot find that pattern on their website. It's similar to their carbon desert night but the pattern is more solid if that makes sense and more vertical than horizontal. In the comments they said that stock is made for Mesa Precision Arms.

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

Gotcha. I wasn't sure because I cannot find that pattern on their website. It's similar to their carbon desert night but the pattern is more solid if that makes sense and more vertical than horizontal. In the comments they said that stock is made for Mesa Precision Arms.

If they won't do it, we will. Just send that photo when you place the order.

keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stick1

If they won't do it, we will. Just send that photo when you place the order.

Awesome. Thank you Robert! I'll be calling tomorrow.

ColinR · 01-28-2019, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

Gotcha. I wasn't sure because I cannot find that pattern on their website. It's similar to their carbon desert night but the pattern is more solid if that makes sense and more vertical than horizontal. In the comments they said that stock is made for Mesa Precision Arms.

I see exactly what your talking about. And I like the more vertical and more solid as well. I'll also be sending in this picture with my order.

keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinR

I see exactly what your talking about. And I like the more vertical and more solid as well. I'll also be sending in this picture with my order.

Glad you understood. I couldn’t think of the words to explain it. But dang it looks good lol.

CastAndBlast · 01-28-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

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I saw this one on AG Composite’s Instagram. Is this one doable and is it still considered a stencil-less pattern?

Did it say what color cerakote is on that action?

keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CastAndBlast

Did it say what color cerakote is on that action?

No, but it looks like a different shade of tan than those on the stock.

Buzzsaw · 01-28-2019, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CastAndBlast

Did it say what color cerakote is on that action?

might be my choice too, i like it. im not on facebook or Instagram, old fart

CastAndBlast · 01-28-2019, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

might be my choice too, i like it. im not on facebook or Instagram, old fart

Closest color I can find to it is burnt bronze.

I would like to go with this stock

And this color action

keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CastAndBlast

Closest color I can find to it is burnt bronze.

I would like to go with this stock

And this color action

I have a gun coated in burnt bronze and the action on the one I posted does not look burnt bronze. Looks closer to a FDE or something more tan.

bloodtrail18 · 01-29-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CastAndBlast

Closest color I can find to it is burnt bronze.

I would like to go with this stock

And this color action

How would i describe this stock pattern when placing my order? I'd like to get this pattern but in grey/dark grey rather than the bronze/tan in the pic.

Stick1 · 01-28-2019, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw

might be my choice too, i like it. im not on facebook or Instagram, old fart

You don't have to have an Instagram account to see it. Just to Instagram and look up Alamo Precision Rifles

OKFF610 · 01-28-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

Attachment 943974
I saw this one on AG Composite’s Instagram. Is this one doable and is it still considered a stencil-less pattern?

Did they say what this color pattern/combo was called? This is what I want mine in.

keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OKFF610

Did they say what this color pattern/combo was called? This is what I want mine in.

No but I commented on their post asking.

ColinR · 01-28-2019, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

No but I commented on their post asking.

I have been emailing with Matt at AG the last couple days on the color patterns but maybe if enough of us like this exact pattern Once Robert gets an exact count he can get with Matt and they can just name it APR carbon Desert Night!

Buzzsaw · 01-28-2019, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinR

I have been emailing with Matt at AG the last couple days on the color patterns but maybe if enough of us like this exact pattern Once Robert gets an exact count he can get with Matt and they can just name it APR carbon Desert Night!

I'm in Colin

ColinR · 01-28-2019, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OKFF610

Did they say what this color pattern/combo was called? This is what I want mine in.

Pretty sure that is what AG called there Carbon Desert Night camo but like keatonskidmore pointed out that one has more of vertical and thicker pattern than the one posted on the AG page. We're just going to send in the picture with our order. sounds like several of us will be.

OKFF610 · 01-28-2019, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ColinR

Pretty sure that is what AG called there Carbon Desert Night camo but like keatonskidmore pointed out that one has more of vertical and thicker pattern than the one posted on the AG page. We're just going to send in the picture with our order. sounds like several of us will be.

Ok thanks for the info. I will do the same as far as sending in the picture to APR.

keatonskidmore · 01-28-2019, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColinR

Pretty sure that is what AG called there Carbon Desert Night camo but like keatonskidmore pointed out that one has more of vertical and thicker pattern than the one posted on the AG page. We're just going to send in the picture with our order. sounds like several of us will be.

They just replied to me and said it’s a Mesa pattern. So looks like APR will just have to go off the photo to match.

150class · 01-28-2019, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

Attachment 943974
I saw this one on AG Composite’s Instagram. Is this one doable and is it still considered a stencil-less pattern?

Saw this one on their page awhile back also and it was the route I’m wanting to go (for the time being)

RF76 · 01-28-2019, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by keatonskidmore

Attachment 943974
I saw this one on AG Composite’s Instagram. Is this one doable and is it still considered a stencil-less pattern?

I like this pattern but can a little sage color be added to it.

So far what I have in mind is 6.5 PRC

24" Ratchet Fluting barrel
Barreled action cerakoted sniper gray or elite blackout.

01-28-2019, 03:09 PM	#1
Stick1 Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lone Star State Hunt In: Hardeman	The Official 2019 TBH APR Special Thread! What it is: Tier -1 Light Weight Carbon/Carbon build Action – APR Hunter. DLC coated bolt and 20 MOA rail Barrel – Proof Research Sendero profile. Threaded 5/8-24 with blended thread protector. You choose chamber, Bbl length, twist. Stock – AG Composites Alpine Hunter. Stock will include bi-pod rail, 2 flush cups and inserts provided for Arca Rail adapter. You choose color/finish. Bottom Metal – Gen 2 APR BDL(Black Hard Anodized) Trigger – Trigger Tech Primary. Cerakote – You choose color for action body and CF barrel tips. Left-handed versions available Price = $2,499 plus tax Approx weight = 7lbs Tier -2 Carbon/Steel build Action – APR Gen 2. Full DLC finish and 20 MOA rail Barrel – MullerWorks Cut-rifled Sendero profile. Threaded 5/8-24 with blended thread protector. You choose chamber, Bbl length, twist and fluting. Stock – AG Composites Alpine Hunter. Stock will include bi-pod rail, 2 flush cups and inserts provided for Arca Rail adapter. You choose color/finish. Bottom Metal – Gen 2 APR BDL(Black Hard Anodized) Trigger – Trigger Tech Primary. Cerakote – Action is DLC coated black. You choose barrel color. Left-handed versions available Price = $2,199 plus tax Approx Weight = 8 lbs Available Upgrades: Trigger upgrades - TT Special +$55/TT Diamond +$140 Bottom Metal - Hawkins DBM w/ 5 rnd Accurate mag +$150 Muzzle Brakes - Area 419 Hellfire +$179/ Blended Radial +$125/ Blended and timed Gill +$150 Stock Paint – Custom stencil patterns +$250

01-28-2019, 03:10 PM	#2
Stick1 Ten Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lone Star State Hunt In: Hardeman	How to participate: Ordering period will open @10:00am on Tuesday, Jan 29th and close at 6:00pm on Friday, Feb 15th. Call the shop anytime at 817-284-0034 during business hours to place your order during that timeframe. We will do our best to return all calls if you leave a message, but we can get extremely busy up front and at times the mailbox can get full, so please don’t hesitate to call back if you don’t get a return call in a timely manner. A 50% deposit will be required at the time order is placed, with the remaining 50% due upon completion. The 2019 TBH special “is what it is”. We tried to create a robust package of features to address as many folks wants/needs as possible based on everyone’s input. We even added a second option this year to accommodate some of the earlier requests. These builds are are pretty much set in stone as far as the components and pricing goes, so please understand that there will be no substitutions for components. We did create a list of common “upgrades” to help offer a little more flexibility and customization. Things to consider when ordering: -Given all of the DLC/Anodization/Carbon fiber on these builds, there isn’t a whole lot of metal to be cerakoted. The stock will be the main canvas to set the tone for the looks of the gun. -Stocks – Will start as bare carbon fiber finished. They look good. You are welcome to leave them as is, or 1.Choose any of the 4 carbon/camo finishes I originally posted 2.Choose any of the sponge or “ambush” patterns like we used last year(I advise visiting our FB or Instagram account for a ton of examples to choose from). 3.Choose any of AG Composite’s “house” camos. Some are awesome and certainly worth looking at before making a decision. 4.Basically any pattern that doesn’t require stencils is fair game. If you see a reference out there that you like, I strongly suggest you email us a picture when placing your order. -Guys doing 6.5 PRC builds, know that this round works better on the long version of this action, and we are going to have a strong desire to lead you that direction when you call. There are also some trade-offs to running Wyatt’s extended mag boxes with this ejector set-up, and we’re probably going to try to steer you clear of them as well. Both of these issues were covered pretty extensively in the planning post, so I won’t re-hash it all here. In the end, it’s your decision to make. -Hope this one does not come across as rude, but please have a good idea of what you want, or at least what your intended uses will be before calling to place an order. I’ll do my best to help you decide here based on my experience(along with many others here), but my front counter guys while well-versed at building rifles, will not have in the field experience with a wide number of options to get you dialed in on a final selection quickly. Thanks to everyone on TBH for getting another one of these going again, and we look forward to getting this year’s TBH builds rolling! Thanks, Robert Alamo Precision Rifles Last edited by Stick1; 01-28-2019 at 03:14 PM.

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01-28-2019, 03:22 PM	#5
ColinR Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Spring Branch, TX-in the Hill Country not Houston Hunt In: Roosevelt/Sonora	Robert. Do you have a picture of DLC black cerakote that is on the action? Is that a flat black or ??? I'm pretty sure I will want barrel to match the action so just curios what that will look like. Maybe a picture of a complete rifle in that color.

01-28-2019, 03:24 PM	#7
robie Six Point Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Houston Hunt In: Texas	Robert - Are you still shooting for an April completion of these rifles? Or did that change after you talked to Proof?

01-28-2019, 03:47 PM	#10
bphillips Pope & Young Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: San Angelo, Tx Hunt In: Mexico, Tom Green Co.	This is the regular sendero profile? Approx 7lb with SA or LA?

01-28-2019, 03:50 PM	#15
robie Six Point Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Houston Hunt In: Texas	Robert, thank you for doing this and the excellent price. This is what I'm coming up with for parts if I just ordered them before gunsmithing: Action APR - Hunter - $799 Barrel Proof Sendero - $830 Stock AG Composites Alpine Hunter (2 Cups, Rail) - $634 Bottom Metal APR BDL - $150 Trigger Trigger Tech - $145 Barrell Threading - $75 Cerakote - $125 Total - $2,758

01-28-2019, 04:09 PM	#16
Phillip Fields Pope & Young Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chesapeake, VA Hunt In: NC,TX, and anywhere else I can	On the Tier 1 are we restricted to the barrel lengths listed on the Proof Research website?

01-28-2019, 04:09 PM	#18
Buzzsaw Six Point Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Frisco Texas Hunt In: Frio County	whats a Arca rail adapter?

01-28-2019, 05:23 PM	#20
Txhuntr2 Ten Point Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Tomball Hunt In: Kinney County	Is it possible to have the barrel and action coated in the same camo pattern as the stock? Like an ambush pattern?

01-28-2019, 06:11 PM	#22
oneeye Eight Point Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Up North	What a great offer this is Robert. I just can't imagine how many questions you have to answer! And your patience level for answering them all.

01-28-2019, 06:26 PM	#27
sahunter Six Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: san antonio	tagged

01-28-2019, 06:29 PM	#28
keatonskidmore Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Graham, Texas Hunt In: Throckmorton County, Texas	I saw this one on AG Composite’s Instagram. Is this one doable and is it still considered a stencil-less pattern?