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Old 01-12-2019, 01:34 PM   #1
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It's application time again and I'm looking for some advice.

I have been building points in most western states over the past few years and now have 6-8 elk, mule deer and pronghorn points in AZ (8), CO (6), NV (6), UT (7) and WY (7). I just turned 48 and have never hunted elk, mule deer or pronghorn, let alone killed one. I've decided it's time to stop buying points and actually try to draw some good hunts.

Now that the Arizona elk draw is open, I've started doing some research. It seems that I am still many years away from being able to draw the premier units (7W, 8, 9, 10, 23) in the bonus points pass. I could get lucky in the Pass 1 & 2 draw, but chances are very slim considering there are so few nonresident tags. So....I'm thinking the best strategy for me at this point is to apply for some 2nd tier units (for example: 5B North, 5B South, 6A, 6B, 7E). If I had 5 points or less I'd be willing to apply for 3rd tier units, late season, etc., but since I'm up to 8 points I feel like I should try for a better unit in the early season.

My preference is early archery, which doesn't help the draw odds.

I was hoping to get some application advice from someone that can relate to my situation. Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:53 PM   #2
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I’ve been buying points for area 7 Wyoming. Wagon Hound ranch. You should draw with 7 points. They’ll put you on a nice bull if you’re looking at using an outfitter.
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Old 01-12-2019, 03:54 PM   #3
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I’ve been buying points for area 7 Wyoming. Wagon Hound ranch. You should draw with 7 points. They’ll put you on a nice bull if you’re looking at using an outfitter.
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Old 01-12-2019, 04:07 PM   #4
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Since Arizona is a bonus points system I’d try for a top unit like the ones you mentioned and hope for the best. You are a sure thing for a Wyoming general tag. There are general units in that state with 30% success statistics.

Another option is buy a subscription to Gohunt and you’ll have a really good idea of what your odds are and for what unit. It would be a good investment since you are already spending so much on points.
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Old 01-12-2019, 04:42 PM   #5
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I’ve been buying points for area 7 Wyoming. Wagon Hound ranch. You should draw with 7 points. They’ll put you on a nice bull if you’re looking at using an outfitter.
I hunted area 7 years ago. Up near the Windy Peaks ranch. Saw a lot of nice bulls and elk were everywhere. Too bad I was toting a cow tag. Filled it. First elk with a bow.
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Old 01-12-2019, 04:52 PM   #6
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Personally I’d go to an otc unit to gain some experience in mule deer and elk country prior to burning points. Antelope are like hunting whitetail if you hunt over water so the lack of experience doesn’t really mater.

With the exception of getting an outfitter and hunting wilderness in WY (hunting with wolves and grizzlies pose their own challenges) you really don’t have enough points yet to hunt “trophy” units in the states you listed, outside of just getting lucky, anyhow.


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Old 01-12-2019, 05:00 PM   #7
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Since Arizona is a bonus points system I’d try for a top unit like the ones you mentioned and hope for the best. You are a sure thing for a Wyoming general tag. There are general units in that state with 30% success statistics.

Another option is buy a subscription to Gohunt and you’ll have a really good idea of what your odds are and for what unit. It would be a good investment since you are already spending so much on points.
I bought a gohunt Insider subscription last week. That's what made me realize it's going to take a secular miracle for me to draw an early season bow hunt in one of the top units.

I think I'll just pick a couple of mid-tier units and see what happens.
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Old 01-12-2019, 05:18 PM   #8
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Even AZ’s “mid tier”units are better than anything you’d experience in any OTC Unit in CO! They kill nice bulls in every unit in AZ. Good luck....I’m sitting at 6 PP’s myself. Can’t wait to get back!
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