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Old 01-09-2019, 10:18 PM   #51
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I just got mine into a Magpul stock.

Made a bunch of difference.

When I lean my cheek on it to shoot prone, it no longer flexes.

Shot a 5 round group last weekend that measures out at .634Ē out to out.


I liked the rifle before, now Iím really happy with it.





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Old 01-11-2019, 03:55 PM   #52
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G-son loves this 300 blk out....
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:03 PM   #53
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I think if they go to a wood stock the price point will change and it will no longer be affordable. This rifle delivers a lot, but that dang stock leaves so much to be desired.
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:28 PM   #54
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Can the bolt knob be replaced without taking it to a Smith?
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:36 PM   #55
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I just got mine into a Magpul stock.

Made a bunch of difference.

When I lean my cheek on it to shoot prone, it no longer flexes.

Shot a 5 round group last weekend that measures out at .634Ē out to out.


I liked the rifle before, now Iím really happy with it.





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What's the weight of that rifle with that stock new magpaul stock and scope?

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Old 01-12-2019, 12:39 PM   #56
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What's the weight of that rifle with that stock new magpaul stock and scope?

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Good question. Not sure.

Itíll be a couple weeks before I head out to the Farm again. Iíll try to get a weight then.



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Old 01-12-2019, 12:40 PM   #57
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Good question. Not sure.

Itíll be a couple weeks before I head out to the Farm again. Iíll try to get a weight then.



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Thank you sir. I seen where the stock is around 3.5-3.75lbs if I'm not mistaking. Just wasnt sure what the barrel and aviation weighed.

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Old 01-25-2019, 05:21 PM   #58
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The Magpul stock is by far the best alternative chassis!



Itís not light, but itís extremely balanced. The stock itself is 3.3 pounds. The POS factory stock only weighs a pound.

This is the .308 RAP


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Old 01-25-2019, 05:23 PM   #59
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Can the bolt knob be replaced without taking it to a Smith?


Yes


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Old 01-25-2019, 06:10 PM   #60
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My daughter loves the one we bought this last season.
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Old 01-25-2019, 06:37 PM   #61
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My son loves his .300 BO and his .17 HMR

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Old 01-25-2019, 07:22 PM   #62
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The Magpul stock is by far the best alternative chassis!



Itís not light, but itís extremely balanced. The stock itself is 3.3 pounds. The POS factory stock only weighs a pound.

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Nice! You like it better than the mdt chassis?
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Old 01-25-2019, 07:33 PM   #63
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The Magpul stock is by far the best alternative chassis!



Itís not light, but itís extremely balanced. The stock itself is 3.3 pounds. The POS factory stock only weighs a pound.

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Would you mind weighing it without the can if you get a chance please sir? You have my attention with that little rifle!

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Old 01-25-2019, 07:33 PM   #64
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Nice! You like it better than the mdt chassis?


I do.


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Old 01-25-2019, 07:40 PM   #65
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Would you mind weighing it without the can if you get a chance please sir? You have my attention with that little rifle!

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As shown, no can. Pushing 10 pounds is my best guess based on the scale I have on hand.

Pending glass you put on it, itís basically 2 pounds heavier than the rifle comes from the factory.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:45 PM   #66
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As shown, no can. Pushing 10 pounds is my best guess based on the scale I have on hand.

Pending glass you put on it, itís basically 2 pounds heavier than the rifle comes from the factory.
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Awesome thank you sir.

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Old 01-25-2019, 09:34 PM   #67
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Old 01-26-2019, 01:08 AM   #68
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My wife is pretty happy with hers, especially for the price. Picked it up when they were $200 and the scope was free from a giveaway. It’s accurate enough for the intended purpose. A little rattlecan work to make it hers and we’re good to go.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:08 AM   #69
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I think they are ok, if you are going to leave them as is. I had one and it shot about 1" three shots with factory ammo, that was the good. The bad is the stock is a ****, the "bluing" is a very poor protectant, the barrel is ribbed, but not for pleasure for cheapness. That same ribbing is on the bolt for a not so smooth throw. Its like they keep the lathe on high and never quite finish the gun. It is just a gun that screams cheap. Putting a good stock on them is the classic lipstick on a pig, you have a $300 gun with a $400 dollar stock that is now worth $350 for the package. I agree with buy a used Remington or something along those lines. All I typed holds true with all these budget rifles, not just picking on the American.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:21 AM   #70
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might scream cheap....but they are sleepers...they are much better rifles than the price says they are.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:21 AM   #71
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All of your comments make me really appreciate my Rem 788. I got my first one for $67 brand new. They would shoot rings around a 700.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:22 AM   #72
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At the same time, a 700 cost $98.
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Old 01-26-2019, 08:24 AM   #73
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I had one in 30.06 and didnít like it.
Mine had significant feeding issues. Using only factory Ammo I was constantly getting wedged cartridges and bolt overrun failures.
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Old 01-26-2019, 01:30 PM   #74
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Those that have made the factory stock heavier...

What material did you use to fill the voids?
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Old 01-26-2019, 02:57 PM   #75
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What material did you use to fill the voids?

Rockite. And drill holes between the partitions so it flows through to each side as one.
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Old 01-26-2019, 03:56 PM   #76
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you have a $300 gun with a $400 dollar stock that is now worth $350 for the package.
This is good advice for any gun - never upgrade expecting to get your money back out of it. Iíve yet to see customizations add anywhere near their cost in value.

I have $800 in upgrades to my RAP and love it - itís the perfect blind gun in 16Ē creed
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Old 01-26-2019, 04:25 PM   #77
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This is good advice for any gun - never upgrade expecting to get your money back out of it. Iíve yet to see customizations add anywhere near their cost in value.

I have $800 in upgrades to my RAP and love it - itís the perfect blind gun in 16Ē creed
That is kinda my point. If you original price was 350 or so and then you put 800 more into it for a total of 1150, i think you would have been way ahead in buying an $800 gun in the first place. Some guns you can do some custom work to and come out ok, but they need to be a little more desirable to start with. Kinda like spending $500 upgrading a rock island 1911vs $500 upgrading a Colt. The colts value has a good chance of climbing with the upgrades, but the RI so so much. None of that was meant to knock your rifle
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:10 PM   #78
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I believe that there will come a day when someone will make a supremely accurate chassis rifle with a custom trigger and a 16” barrel that takes aics mags and weighs 7# soaking wet and costs $800, but until then I respectfully beg to differ that there is a superior blind gun for the price.
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Old 01-26-2019, 09:16 PM   #79
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The Magpul stock is by far the best alternative chassis!



Itís not light, but itís extremely balanced. The stock itself is 3.3 pounds. The POS factory stock only weighs a pound.

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Scope?
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Old 01-27-2019, 05:20 PM   #80
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How canít you like this. 20 shots of 6.5cm and a cut down barrel (18Ē)



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Old 01-28-2019, 07:35 AM   #81
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:13 AM   #82
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How canít you like this. 20 shots of 6.5cm and a cut down barrel (18Ē)



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Man I wish mine would do that...
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:11 AM   #83
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Those that have made the factory stock heavier...



What material did you use to fill the voids?


I filled the butt with silicone caulk. Added weight, rigidity, and felt recoil reduction.

The forend, I filled with short fiber glass body filler.

It did add weight and stiffness, but still not nearly as much as the Magpul stock.



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Old 01-28-2019, 11:28 AM   #84
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I wish Magpull made the stock in a LH model.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:28 PM   #85
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I think they are ok, if you are going to leave them as is. I had one and it shot about 1" three shots with factory ammo, that was the good. The bad is the stock is a ****, the "bluing" is a very poor protectant, the barrel is ribbed, but not for pleasure for cheapness. That same ribbing is on the bolt for a not so smooth throw. Its like they keep the lathe on high and never quite finish the gun. It is just a gun that screams cheap. Putting a good stock on them is the classic lipstick on a pig, you have a $300 gun with a $400 dollar stock that is now worth $350 for the package. I agree with buy a used Remington or something along those lines. All I typed holds true with all these budget rifles, not just picking on the American.

ender right here!!! they is what they is
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:02 PM   #86
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Wow. That’s 20 shots above?
Doesn’t matter what it costs. It throws bullets in tight groups.
My stock is light and waterproof. Who cares if it gets scratched.
And if I leave it at the ranch , in a blind or in the truck, not a lot of $ at risk.

I do like the bigger bolt handle I bought when a big sounder is in a open field.
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It doesnít matter what gun I own I couldnít get one to do that for 20 rounds with me behind the trigger.


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Old 01-28-2019, 09:35 PM   #88
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That is kinda my point. If you original price was 350 or so and then you put 800 more into it for a total of 1150, i think you would have been way ahead in buying an $800 gun in the first place. Some guns you can do some custom work to and come out ok, but they need to be a little more desirable to start with. Kinda like spending $500 upgrading a rock island 1911vs $500 upgrading a Colt. The colts value has a good chance of climbing with the upgrades, but the RI so so much. None of that was meant to knock your rifle
So far my TC Venture seems to be GTG. Stock is more stiff than any other factory synthetic (excluding tikka), and I paid $350 for it new. Also it came with an MOA guarantee, so if it doesnít shoot TC SHOULD make it right. I havenít had any accuracy problems though.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:42 PM   #89
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So far my TC Venture seems to be GTG. Stock is more stiff than any other factory synthetic (excluding tikka), and I paid $350 for it new. Also it came with an MOA guarantee, so if it doesnít shoot TC SHOULD make it right. I havenít had any accuracy problems though.
The ventures do seem better than the ruger American in pretty much every catagory. Seem to be a much better finished gun and the stock is considerably better, but that don't take much haha
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:43 PM   #90
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I've got two of them. 7mm-08 and a predator in .223. I like them both. I put my .223 in a Boyd's stock w/ custom length of pull and glass bedded it. I really love that gun with the stock on it. I think I'm going to try out that Magpul American Hunter on the 7mm-08 to see how I like that. Like everyone else said, the factory stock sucks. But, they are shooters for sure.
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