How is Ercot to blame?

[Tommyh]

The DOE blocked Ercot from increasing the output . Its all part of the green energy crap they are shoving down our throats. Read the EO.

Ercot was not allowed to increase gas generation of electricity because it would exceed the new green house gas emissions now allowed by your federal government. The request was put in to the DOE a week prior and the Biden admin said no.Ercot is not to blame.

Got links? Quick search isnt pulling anything up.

[Tequilazo]

Got links? Quick search isnt pulling anything up.

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2021/02/f82/DOE%20202%28c%29%20Emergency%20Order%20-%20ERCOT%2002.14.2021.pdf

[Briar Friar]

Ive been thinking...Per their mission statement and their name...ERCOT FAILED...
Energy
Reliability...
Fail

http://www.ercot.com/about/profile/vision

It does annoy me that the power over Texas’ grid is controlled by a corporation.

Bigger failure is Texas Public Utility Commision. Theyre the oversight officials.

[Burnadell]

The DOE blocked Ercot from increasing the output . Its all part of the green energy crap they are shoving down our throats. Read the EO.

I read that DOE order, and it is as confusing as heck. Can you highlight the paragraph(s) where it says they blocked Ercot? I am not smart enough to decipher all of that mumbo jumbo.

I read it that they could only exceed emissions limits for a limited time.

[C.Read]

ERCOT just announced a name change. The "Unreliable Frozen Utility Council of Texas".....or simply put URFUCT.

[Traildust]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mother-11-old-died-texas-114513160.html

[doright]

Now that everyone has had their say on who's to blame, what is the solution? I know nothing about electric generation or distributing so I am probably way off on my thinking. I understand this normally being a slower time for production, scheduling maintenance that needs done during this time. What would be the problem of having a few more generating sites up and running to account for what is down for maintenance? It seems that in the very near future we will need more generating capacity due to the steady stream of people and businesses moving into our state. I will let everyone else debate what type those need to be. It has become very apparent that what we have is not going to be adequate in the future. Build enough to rotate out for maintenance or repair so that we are not caught with our pants down. And while we are building ,build them with some nice fishing lakes also.

[Dale Moser]

QUOTE=hopedale;15482986]From Texas Railroad Commissioner Wayne Christian:
“WINTER STORM:

• ERCOT's recently elected chair and vice chair for the board of directors do not live in Texas and live in Michigan and California respectively.
• ERCOT said there were 45,000 megawatts offline. Of that, 15,000 megawatts were wind and 30,000 were gas and coal.
• On the morning of February 14th, ERCOT CEO Bill Magness warned: “We are experiencing record- breaking electric demand due to the extreme cold temperatures that have gripped Texas. At the same time, we are dealing with higher-than-normal generation outages due to frozen wind turbines and limited natural gas supplies available to generating units.”
• It is important to note that every natural gas plant online at the start of this crisis stayed online.
• While there have been some issues with natural gas production during this storm, much of that has to do with ERCOT cutting off power to well sites in West Texas. ERCOT assumed the state would have 67GW from thermal sources (gas & coal), but ended up only being able to get 43GW online.



• This couldn’t have happened a decade ago when “coal-fired plants generated nearly 37 percent of the state’s electricity while wind provided about 6 percent. Since then, three Texas coal-fired plants have closed... In the same period, our energy consumption rose by 20 percent.”
• ERCOT was notified over a decade ago that Texas power plants had failed to adequately weatherize facilities to protect against cold weather. A federal report that summer recommended steps including installing heating elements around pipes and increasing the amount of reserve power available before storms.
• Instead of spending our resources making our grid more resilient, policy and spending has focused spending on mandating or subsidizing as much wind and solar as possible.
• The takeaway from this storm should not be the failure of fossil fuels, but the failure of leadership at ERCOT and the dangers of relying on intermittent, unreliable forms of energy like wind for a quarter of our energy needs.
• It shows as clear as day that the goal of 100% renewables by 2035 is a pipe dream that will increase suffering and harm Texas families.
• Had Texas been using 100% renewables, we would have had 100% blackouts.”




Off another thread on here

This is infuriating.

Majority caused by a lack of common sense from bunny ****er politicians, moronic voters, and two idiots from Kalifornia, and Michigan.

They also failed to mention that they've been kicking natural gas producers in the nuts for years with prices in the toilet, which is largely (if not wholly) due to propping up wind/solar.

Those liberal pricks in Austin will forget about this in 2 months and it will be worse next time because there is no accountability.

[Dale Moser]

So I will say this that there is a little wrong information in #1 and #2. I work at a coal power plant that is in the regulated part of Texas. Ercot and "green energy" are not the reason for the coal plants being shut down. The government is the driving force behind this. They are putting restrictions on us that either the technology doesn't exist to do it or the cost of doing it is so astronomical that it doesn't make sense to invest that much money to do it. This is what my plant is facing. We were notified the week after the election that we'll be shutting down in 2027. Everything else is dead on. And wind farms can actually bid their megawatts in the market for a negative number a lot of times and still make money because of the government subsidies

Who do you think is pushing "green energy"? The government! And they use their agents of the EPA Gestapo to do it, per obama's order.

[BowhunterB]

Garbuster the government is intentionally forcing coal generation plants out of business because they want them replaced by wind and solar. So wind a solar are actually the reason. That is exactly the effort that have been being made for the past 15-20 years by ERCOT and PUC.

I think a state law needs to be passed that regulates wind and solar never being able to be more than 10% of Texas electric generation capability.

Correction. Although Green Energy is the reason that coal plants are being shut down, or at least the people that are pushing for Green Energy, it is not ERCOT that is pushing the agenda. As I mentioned, it is the Green Energy activists and the politicians who are set to make a bunch of "green".

[BowhunterB]

converting coal to natural gas is not the answer for an extreme winter event like this

natural gas is the ultimate "just in time" delivery system

natural gas systems are highly inelastic and more importantly the elasticity they have is to ship less they cannot magically ship over capacity

natural gas has massive spot price jumps unlike coal

it is massively expensive and for all practical (and impractical) purposes not possible to store natural gas at the power plant

natural gas sees increased demand from residential users for heat and cooking in extreme winter events

natural gas pipelines generally flow one way or it takes great effort to flow them another way......even then they do not have redundant routing unlike your city water where a pipe gets cut and they can turn a few valves and a few homes might not have water, but the rest still get water that just flows a different way

or like the internet where Elmer Wayne digs up a fiber bundle and the internet traffic just takes a different route

it is impracticable to have a natural gas distribution system that would allow flow even to larger end users from multiple directions in case there is a break in a line or a line has an issue.....not to mention issues with a collector plant or freezing at the well head in a large field

putting more eggs in the same basket that you just had major issues with (natural gas) is not the answer and the answer to bullet proof the natural gas system is simply not practical IMO

it is much more practical to make coal cleaner and then have another major fuel (along with natural gas and nuclear) for major power supplies

a fuel that comes on a train not a pipeline or highway

a fuel that can be easily stored at the power plant

a fuel that is not in demand at the residential level for heat or cooking

a fuel that does not have massive spot price increases

more natural gas plants or conversion to natural gas from coal is just building for a bigger issue down the road and more than likely in the next 3 to 5 years the midwest will show us this in major ways probably more than one time a year

Diversification of fuel sources truly is the best approach. However, in their chase for "green", meaning dollars, politicians in Washington are trying to push coal, nuclear and natural gas out of the picture. As was mentioned earlier, the pressure is on the close coal plants instead of upgrading them. The average citizen needs to start speaking up - there are meetings (town halls) all the time that are being forced by those pushing the green agenda, but it regular citizens don't show up and push back the green voice is the only one that is heard and that squeaky wheel gets the oil.

[kurt68]

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/02/22/sick-****ing-thread-exposes-the-absolute-disaster-bidens-admin-was-in-handling-deadly-texas-storm-with-receipts/

Timeline, Biden screwed Texas.

[Maddox]

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/0...with-receipts/

Timeline, Biden screwed Texas.

Page doesn’t load for me. Can you screenshot it and post it?

[kurt68]

Try this.

[url]https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/02/22/sick-****ing-thread-exposes-the-absolute-disaster-bidens-admin-was-in-handling-deadly-texas-storm-with-receipts

TBH bad word, 4 *s should be a damm. replace the last m.

[Maddox]

Try this.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/0...with-receipts/

Nope, something on the page must be blocked by duck duck go browser.