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Old 03-15-2019, 12:24 PM   #1
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I can't post too many details because the case against has not been adjudicated yet. The offender was booked last month in our local JP Court.

Our lease has a small three acre lake with the main part of the lake on the property. The creek that feeds it is on the neighbors property.

We occasionally duck hunt the lake late in the season when the ducks show up here in N. Texas. About 8 years ago the old neighbor sold out to a couple from up way up north. They built a fine home and horse barn which is approx. 500 yards from the lake where we hunt.

In 2016, the neighbor came down one morning, while my grandson was duck hunting, and started cussing him out and telling him to quit duck hunting because it was scaring his dog. My grandson was respectful and told him that he was legally hunting and not doing anything wrong.

In 2017 he started in again. He came down several times cussing my grandson saying he was scaring his dogs and horses. My grandson took videos of the neighbor harassing him. He politely asked him to please leave him alone. He called the sheriff and complained that my grandson and buddy were disturbing the peace. The deputy came out and told the neighbor they were doing nothing wrong.

He kept on so the landowner contacted the game warden and asked her to come out and explain the law to the neighbor. The landowner asked that he not be given a ticket. She made contact and warned him against bothering us while hunting. The neighbor called the landowner and asked him to kick us off the lease. He then asked the game warden to make us stop hunting. She explained that we have a constitutional right to hunt in the State of Texas.

My brother and I went out a couple of weeks later to relocate a duck blind so that the back of the blind faced the fence line. He came down yelling at me wanting to come to a compromise. I videoed our exchange and and politely asked him several times to just leave us alone. He kept on about coming to a compromise and meeting on common ground. I finally had enough and told him the compromise was for him to leave us the heck alone and we were going to hunt when we wanted to hunt. He finally left after I told him to take his Yankee a** back to the house.

Fast forward to last August. He started sending me and the landowner several messages asking us to agree to only hunt on certain days and give him a heads up when we were going hunting. We both ignored him.

My grandson only went duck hunting nine times in 2017 and six times in 2018. We noticed he had moved his paddle boat over near the property line in early January. My grandson and his buddy were hunting when he rode his UTV down and launched his paddle boat. He paddled over across the property line and started doing figure eights in front of their decoy spread acting like he was fishing. He never fishes and the wind was blowing hard and the temperature was about 35 degrees.

My grandson videoed the whole incident. My grandson finally had enough, stood up and asked him what he was doing. The neighbor started cussing him out and telling him to quit hunting. The landowner and game warden were called. The neighbor was cited for hunter harassment and is awaiting trial. All our videos were turned over to the game warden.

I'll update when the case is adjudicated.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:29 PM   #2
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Good! What a Jerk
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:30 PM   #3
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What a horses butt.

Ya'll clearly showed more patients than I would have.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:31 PM   #4
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hope they nail him. aggravating to say the least
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:32 PM   #5
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^No kidding. I would've had a hard time not telling him to sh** in his hand from the get-go.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:33 PM   #6
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In for the outcome. What county is this taking place in?
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:35 PM   #7
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He is lucky a bunch of ducks didn't land around that paddle boat..
I hope they throw the book at that fool.....
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:36 PM   #8
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Yankees.....an obnoxious bunch for sure.

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Old 03-15-2019, 12:36 PM   #9
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Get em!
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:36 PM   #10
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Awesome. Good for y'all.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:38 PM   #11
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We have the same problem sir but with people riding dirt bikes down the fence line before dark. Hope he gets what he deserves.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:38 PM   #12
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Good job keeping your cool and documenting everything. What a hassle.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:39 PM   #13
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Stick to your guns and don't let the DA settle it at something lower than the max.

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Old 03-15-2019, 12:39 PM   #14
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Sounds like you have a great landowner and warden!
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:40 PM   #15
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Ya'll clearly showed more patients than I would have.
wow...that aint no lie!
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:43 PM   #16
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Sounds like you have a great landowner and warden!
My thoughts. F the yankee
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:43 PM   #17
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....build a wall and have him pay for it!!
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:44 PM   #18
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This thread would be so much better with said videos posted.

I hope he finally learns his lesson
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:45 PM   #19
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I believe he’d been swimmin when that paddle boat woulda got some 3.5s in it. A lot more patience than I’d have. Good job on that part!
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:47 PM   #20
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If the law allows him to paddle his boat while y'all are duck hunting, it may be time to introduce a 10' gator into the lake



https://youtu.be/slat4Y6QIuA

Or at least this ^^^^



See how fast he can paddle

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Old 03-15-2019, 12:49 PM   #21
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What a show o patience, as well as great job documenting. KJ
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:49 PM   #22
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Very good! Hope the neighbor learns his lesson.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:50 PM   #23
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Great composure from your grandson Froggy. Well done.
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:56 PM   #24
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I hate people that think they own the whole country side and feel they can dictate what you do on your own property. Good for you ! You’ve been very patient with him. Should of yelled “welcome to Texas !!!”
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Old 03-15-2019, 12:57 PM   #25
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If he crossed the property line, you need to be sure criminal trespass is charged also. Should be a slam dunk with the video evidence

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Old 03-15-2019, 12:59 PM   #26
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Get em!
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:03 PM   #27
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Ugh that really takes the fun out of hunting. Sorry man.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:05 PM   #28
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In to see what happens!!!
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:05 PM   #29
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Y'all should reach a compromise. He should move!
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:07 PM   #30
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I would not have been able to handle it as well as yall did.

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Old 03-15-2019, 01:09 PM   #31
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Sounds like he needs his arse whipped....
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:19 PM   #32
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I'm confused, why is it not trespassing charges in addition to hunter harassment?
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:33 PM   #33
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Good job keeping your cool and documenting everything. What a hassle.
I agree. However, I long for the days when you could beat the tar out of someone for acting like a jack.

Thrasymacharian justice---give a man what he is owed.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:36 PM   #34
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You can't fix stupid! If he doesn't like the laws in TX, maybe he needs to go back where he came from!!!!!
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:43 PM   #35
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Stick to your guns and don't let the DA settle it at something lower than the max.

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This. Hopefully you have a prosecutor with some backbone that will see this through. Maybe they will agree to a deal where the guy has to take Hunter Ed and do some volunteer work for TPWD.
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Old 03-15-2019, 01:57 PM   #36
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If he crossed the property line, you need to be sure criminal trespass is charged also. Should be a slam dunk with the video evidence

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I'm confused, why is it not trespassing charges in addition to hunter harassment?
The landowner did not want to press charges for trespassing. We didn't really even want him to be arrested but he just kept on. The neighbor's job may now be at risk. All I'll say is his profession is heavily regulated by a federal agency. He is awaiting trial before a JP.

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Old 03-15-2019, 02:05 PM   #37
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I wouldn't loose sleep over that ^^^. He made his own bed, it's time for him to lay it. Plus, the game warden explained to him you and your group have every "right" to hunt. So he had fair warning.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:07 PM   #38
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Part of the lake is on his property I’ve always understood it as long as he is In the water he can go around the pond. We hunt a water shed lake that has 4 land owners around it.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:13 PM   #39
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This thread would be so much better with said videos posted.

I hope he finally learns his lesson
I hesitate to post the videos before his case is decided. Violations of the Sportsman's Rights Act is a Class B misdemeanor and is punishable by a fine of $200 to $2000 and/or 180 days in jail. He has never been in any trouble before and even though he's a jerk, I'd hate to see him lose his job.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:15 PM   #40
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I hesitate to post the videos before his case is decided. Violations of the Sportsman's Rights Act is a Class B misdemeanor and is punishable by a fine of $200 to $2000 and/or 180 days in jail. He has never been in any trouble before and even though he's a jerk, I'd hate to see him lose his job.
Fully understand that. Hope it gets resolved soon
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:16 PM   #41
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I like your gamewaden. It seems like most people get off pretty easy on Lonestar Law.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:16 PM   #42
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Part of the lake is on his property Iíve always understood it as long as he is In the water he can go around the pond. We hunt a water shed lake that has 4 land owners around it.
The game warden told us the property line is the boundary and if he crosses the fence he can be charged with trespassing and advised us to not cross the fence line. This is private waters.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:17 PM   #43
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Part of the lake is on his property Iíve always understood it as long as he is In the water he can go around the pond. We hunt a water shed lake that has 4 land owners around it.
Yes that is true.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:30 PM   #44
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In for the results always great when people think they are the judge jury and trial get put in their place.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:55 PM   #45
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In for the finish.

Was he armed when he did this?
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:00 PM   #46
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If I were you I'd start eradicating those feral hogs that have been tearing up your ranch....at 3am.
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:05 PM   #47
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Had a run in with the land owner who leased hunting rights to us. She was driving up and down the road through her property which was fine as she lives there. Only problem was she was blasting her radio or yelling on her phone which was connected to speaker phone via her radio. She would haul *** down her road and do what while we were hunting. I let it slide until she kept up most of the first evening I was hunting. I let her son know since he initiated the lease agreement we all signed including her. He ended up letting her know she needed to stop or else we would be requesting our money back since she was violating our contract. Needless to say we only hunted that season, too bad was a great little ranch. She really didn’t want us hunting though just our money.
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:15 PM   #48
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Yes that is true.


Then why do I need a TX license if I put in on the okiehoma side?
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:18 PM   #49
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Then why do I need a TX license if I put in on the okiehoma side?
That idk. I'm speaking on my past experiences with duck hunting down here in Anahuac


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Old 03-15-2019, 06:19 PM   #50
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Then why do I need a TX license if I put in on the okiehoma side?
Also, i didn't see that he put "private water" before my comment.

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