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Old 06-09-2021, 08:15 PM   #1
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Default Zero turn commercial mower help

I am about to buy a nice commercial mower, I have priced the Scag, Bad Boy, Kubota and John Deere and they run between 8,150.00 and 10,009.00 with cheapest being the Bad Boy and the most expensive being the John Deere. The John Deere dealer will loan out a commercial mower if we have to take it in for repairs. All have 60Ē-61Ē decks and range from 25.5 HP to 27 HP. Thoughts?


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Old 06-09-2021, 08:49 PM   #2
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Old 06-09-2021, 08:52 PM   #3
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If I had a choice I’d get a Scag. There’s a reason most of the serious lawn services use them.
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:02 PM   #4
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Look into the Spartans. I was very surprised, and I ended up with one.


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Old 06-09-2021, 09:05 PM   #5
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Try the search function.
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:09 PM   #6
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I have loved my Kubotas
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:23 PM   #7
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:31 PM   #8
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:36 PM   #9
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I have a Deere. I bought it manly because of my nearness to the dealer. I have been pleased with its performance.
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:45 PM   #10
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Iíve had great luck with my Dixie Chopper
Itís a Silver Eagle Commercial version.
I just use it for all my own properties but it cuts like a champ. I was cutting 1.5í crazy thick grass and weeds today and never missed a beat. Always starts too which is a major plus. Yoakum area.
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:49 PM   #11
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In that price range I wouldn’t consider the bad boy or the kubota.
The only kubota that I was impressed with was the diesel and they’re pricey.
The 2 best decks on the market belong to Scag and John Deere. The velocity (scag) and 7-Iron (John Deere). Both are only available in the commercial series.
Scag has the best spindles on the market.
I did tons of research before buying and most the guys doing it for a living we’re using Scag and John Deere.

I have a Hustler as well and thought it was a good mower till I bought the Scag. There is no comparison. Of course I am comparing a residential Hustler to a commercial Scag...
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:50 PM   #12
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:53 PM   #13
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Grasshopper. Go drive all of them and decide. Iíve had one since 2007. Over 1k hours.
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:59 PM   #14
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You didn't mention snapper pro but don't discredit them. I work for the city and run 61 scag cheetahs atleast 3 days a week during mowing season. That said, my 61 snapper pro I own personally will mow circles around the scag. I drove the ones you mentioned and the snapper isn't the smoothest but definitely cuts better than scag.

It was $6250 out the door.
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Old 06-09-2021, 10:02 PM   #15
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Old 06-09-2021, 10:05 PM   #16
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I have all hustlers Super 88 , 48” and 52” stand on, x one 60” rear discharge , and a fastrac sdx Best mowing equipment I’ve ever had.. the couple of times the sdx has needed repair , dealer did it while I waited Fastrac sdx has a 4 yr , 1000 hr warranty, has 946 hours on it now and still cuts and runs like a new one..
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Old 06-09-2021, 10:38 PM   #17
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You can't beat a Scag,or a John Deere.As far as gasoline goes...Giving you a loaner if something goes wrong with yours? Now that's a nice perk! Hustler makes a nice gasser too,but the Kubota gas mower;wouldn't even be on my radar.
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Old 06-09-2021, 10:47 PM   #18
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My 54Ē Kubota has been a great machine, in 9 years of use mowing 5 acres weekly during the summer I have replaced the fuel pump and just this year put new bearings in the spindles. It has never been to the shop.

That said, Iím considering selling it before it gets any older and moving to a bigger Scag. This is partially driven by the fact that my 2 sons (yard mowers) are at the age to move away anytime and if I gotta do it I want to get it done faster.
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Old 06-09-2021, 11:22 PM   #19
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Are you using this for residential use or commercial use? They will all cut grass well, be reliable and inevitably something will break. Iíd spend my money at whatever dealer has better service ie... loaner mowers, getting priority on repairs & maintenance (if you have a business) etc...


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Old 06-10-2021, 05:47 AM   #20
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I run a john deere z930m and a Kubota 326 diesel. Kubota rides better but the deere will outmow it.
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Old 06-10-2021, 07:51 AM   #21
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for what it's worth input:
I have two dixie choppers n love them. a friend has a Kubota
with a rear discharge area. great for those days when the
grass wants to bog down and clog the side discharge chute.
you might want to look at that also.
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Old 06-10-2021, 07:58 AM   #22
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Their all crap when they break and their all outstanding when their running, just the way it works and everybody thinks their machine is the best. My opinion would lie solely on he dealer and their service department and I’d be picking the one that will take care of me and my equipment not only today but down the road as well. Equipment is only as good as those repairing it because their all going to break..
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Old 06-10-2021, 08:10 AM   #23
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My 54Ē Kubota has been a great machine, in 9 years of use mowing 5 acres weekly during the summer I have replaced the fuel pump and just this year put new bearings in the spindles. It has never been to the shop.

That said, Iím considering selling it before it gets any older and moving to a bigger Scag. This is partially driven by the fact that my 2 sons (yard mowers) are at the age to move away anytime and if I gotta do it I want to get it done faster.
Personally, I currently have a 60" and used to use a 52" and I'd keep the smaller deck. The smaller deck seem to do better on inclines, slopes or any unlevel surface.
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Old 06-10-2021, 09:14 AM   #24
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Just bought my second Scag but it hasn't seen action yet because of the weather. The old Scag is over 10 years old but keeps on chugging.
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Old 06-10-2021, 12:26 PM   #25
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I think you would be happy with any of the three(Scag, JD, or Kubota). Best dealer would be the main factor. All things equal, Scag. I have a Scag TigerCatII
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Old 06-10-2021, 02:31 PM   #26
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Personally, I currently have a 60" and used to use a 52" and I'd keep the smaller deck. The smaller deck seem to do better on inclines, slopes or any unlevel surface.

Articulating front suspension does lots to help with that
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Old 06-10-2021, 02:53 PM   #27
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I think you would be happy with any of the three(Scag, JD, or Kubota). Best dealer would be the main factor. All things equal, Scag. I have a Scag TigerCatII
I have the 61" Scag Cheetah II. Like it better than the Kubota diesel I had.
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Old 06-10-2021, 05:46 PM   #28
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I’ve had a Scag since 08. If it ever dies I’ll look hard at the Spartan before I buy another. Bang for buck factor is outstanding.
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Old 06-10-2021, 06:28 PM   #29
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Old 06-10-2021, 06:51 PM   #30
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Kubota all day !
They will give a loaner if you need one too.
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Old 06-10-2021, 06:56 PM   #31
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Kubota has an extensive lineup. You can go as "commercial" and as pricey as you like. Another is one of the oldest zero turn brands, the Grasshopper.
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Old 06-10-2021, 07:51 PM   #32
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My hustler was in the shop and my neighbor brought over his 2 Scag Cheetahs and we knocked the yard out one evening. Now I want one!! It was day and night better than my Raptor SD! That said it was 2-3x the price as well!
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Old 06-10-2021, 08:25 PM   #33
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My hustler was in the shop and my neighbor brought over his 2 Scag Cheetahs and we knocked the yard out one evening. Now I want one!! It was day and night better than my Raptor SD! That said it was 2-3x the price as well!
I replaced my raptor sd with the Scag as well. Yes, it was night and day.
Hustler makes good commercial mowers. I was looking hard at the super z, but with the issues I was having with the raptorís deck clogging up and not seeing anyone claiming scagís deck doing the same, I went with Scag.
I have mowed 2í tall grass and the Scag just spits out the clippings. I am beyond impressed.
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Old 06-10-2021, 09:15 PM   #34
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Agreed. My dad picked one of these up recently and I had the chance to use it for a couple of hours. Nice machines for sure.


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Old 06-11-2021, 07:29 AM   #35
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Kubota Diesel (lightly used)

Mine is a workhorse
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Old 06-11-2021, 07:59 AM   #36
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I'm also looking to by one soon. Was leaning towards JD Z735, i think i'll research a little more
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Old 06-11-2021, 08:07 AM   #37
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I bought the scag tiger cat 2 61” deck last year. It’s hands down the best mower I’ve ever owned. I had a bad boy before. Bad boy was a joke compared to the scag. There very accessible to work on, easy to get parts, and will run forever if you do routine maintenance.
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Old 06-11-2021, 09:26 PM   #38
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I’m rough as heck on equipment and my Scag Tiger Cat just keeps on going,8 years and counting. Normal maintenance, just replaced the battery today, is all I’ve done.
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Old 06-11-2021, 09:35 PM   #39
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I have a snapper pro with only a 19hp and I tell ypubits. Best going on 800 hours no isses
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Old 06-11-2021, 10:02 PM   #40
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They’re basically all the same. Just look at which one has the best Hydro Gear transaxles and the best Kawasaki motor. They all use the same components and a lot of the parts are fabricated at the same manufacturing facility. Every one has a preference based on what they owned. Dealer that is easy to deal with is also nice.

If you want like 500-1000 off a Kubota get the equine discount. Just have to register with one of the horse organizations and that part is free for membership.
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Old 06-11-2021, 10:35 PM   #41
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Theyíre basically all the same. Just look at which one has the best Hydro Gear transaxles and the best Kawasaki motor. They all use the same components and a lot of the parts are fabricated at the same manufacturing facility. Every one has a preference based on what they owned. Dealer that is easy to deal with is also nice.

If you want like 500-1000 off a Kubota get the equine discount. Just have to register with one of the horse organizations and that part is free for membership.
Kawasaki has had trouble with the bigger motors.
Vanguard makes a good motor.
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Old 06-11-2021, 11:57 PM   #42
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Surprised no one is running an Exmark Lazer Z. Most of the commercial guys I know run them.
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Ttt for a great subject

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Old 06-12-2021, 07:59 AM   #44
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We just bought a Kubota 60" rear discharge with no interest. Also have 2 Gravely 60's that are several years old and still run great. Care and maintenance are the key.
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Old 06-12-2021, 09:18 AM   #45
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After lots of research I bought a Scag Patriot last week for my 2 acre yard. Its an entry commercial model. So far I love it.
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:16 AM   #46
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I bought a Dixie Chopper and really like it.

Access and location to dealer would play a role in what I bought.

One thing I would seriously consider is the run flat tire John deere puts on their mowers. I promise you, you will need slime and a package of plugs because you will get flats.

I'm thinking about putting those tires on my mower.

Dont go with anything less than 24 0r 25 hp

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Old 06-19-2021, 09:14 PM   #47
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Any experience with Ferris here?
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Old 06-19-2021, 10:09 PM   #48
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After lots of research I bought a Scag Patriot last week for my 2 acre yard. Its an entry commercial model. So far I love it.
Nice. I went with the Scag Cheetah II. Itís a bad machine.
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Old 06-19-2021, 10:14 PM   #49
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Any experience with Ferris here?
I bought a new Ferris 10 years ago and it still runs as good today as the day I brought it home. The only part outside of scheduled maintenance that Iíve had to replace is the seat.
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Old 06-20-2021, 10:03 PM   #50
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Surprised no one is running an Exmark Lazer Z. Most of the commercial guys I know run them.
This!! Had one for 12 years and it mows 4 acres a week during season! Yes most of the commercial guys around here use them.
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