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Shurshot · 05-19-2022, 07:57 PM

Never seen these before. Found them at academy.
Anyone ever seen these before or know why you would want to use these?

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westtexducks · 05-19-2022, 08:00 PM

Yeah they are pretty fun actually you can fit a ton of them in a normal sized shotgun less recoil if just screwing around and are safe or so I have been told in the old shotguns not rated for modern shells.

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Kingfisher789 · 05-19-2022, 08:01 PM

That’s different…..looks left handed to me.

hpdrifter · 05-19-2022, 11:32 PM

I use em in my home defense shotgun.

eaglegolfj · 05-19-2022, 11:51 PM

I have seen them just not sure what you could shoot them through.

Quackerbox · 05-20-2022, 07:25 AM

big deal with the KSG type guns. Been around for a while

kcnatural · 05-20-2022, 07:28 AM

For those that have used them, do they feed reliably? For some reason I thought I read that you have to modify the shotgun to feed them.

tdwinklr · 05-20-2022, 07:34 AM

not sure why you would want these? I would think there would be a lot of short-comings with them. I want my shotgun to kill or destroy things.
Just saying.

westtexducks · 05-20-2022, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kcnatural

For those that have used them, do they feed reliably? For some reason I thought I read that you have to modify the shotgun to feed them.

I know Mossberg 500 and 835 will run them just fine.

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BlackHogDown · 05-20-2022, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tdwinklr

not sure why you would want these? I would think there would be a lot of short-comings with them. I want my shotgun to kill or destroy things.
Just saying.

clay pigeons can only be so "dead." Less recoil and breaks birds out to 50 yds.

kcnatural · 05-20-2022, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tdwinklr

not sure why you would want these? I would think there would be a lot of short-comings with them. I want my shotgun to kill or destroy things.
Just saying.

Shot guns are really slow to reload. So if you can turn a 7 round shotgun inot a 14 round shotgun its twice as good. Most of the time in a two way range type of situation it is taught to drop one round in the chamber at a time after the tube has ran dry.

tdwinklr · 05-20-2022, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHogDown

clay pigeons can only be so "dead." Less recoil and breaks birds out to 50 yds.

Aguila Minishell Longshot - YouTube

now there will be those posting that they've killed all manner of big game with them too and miraculously felt no recoil.

BlackHogDown · 05-20-2022, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tdwinklr

now there will be those posting that they've killed all manner of big game with them too and miraculously felt no recoil.

Nobody mentioned hunting with them. Making up things to be offended by "

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tdwinklr · 05-20-2022, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackHogDown

Nobody mentioned hunting with them. Making up things to be offended by "

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not offended at all. I brought up killing things, so yes, somebody mentioned 'hunting with them'.
I also labeled it as 'just saying' on my part.
Anyway, why in the world would I want to shoot clays with something I'm not likely to hunt with?

BlackHogDown · 05-20-2022, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tdwinklr

not offended at all. I brought up killing things, so yes, somebody mentioned 'hunting with them'.
I also labeled it as 'just saying' on my part.
Anyway, why in the world would I want to shoot clays with something I'm not likely to hunt with?

Trap/skeet is a sport. Many compete that don't hunt. Again, less recoil and get the job done. Just sayin.

kcnatural · 05-20-2022, 08:16 AM

I get what you are saying. I didn't even notice they were 7 1/2 shot. I thought these only came in slug and buck.

I know several people that have switched to 20 ga. shotguns because their old tried and true 12 ga. was just kicking to hard.
One particular friend had to switch because of retina detachment. This might allow them to keep shooting 12ga.

diamond10x · 05-20-2022, 08:21 AM

When I first saw them I imagined they were something similar to using rat shot out of a .22 or .45. You would use it for the same thing but looks like they're definitely a step above those type of rounds.

Artos · 05-20-2022, 08:23 AM

I shoot a 1oz / 1180fps which is basically a 20ga load...shooting it in a full size frame O/U is extremely mild.

Heck, You can buy 7/8oz loads in 12ga that are so light they won't trip the recoil operated trigger to shoot the 2nd bbl & not cycle in some autos.

McClain · 05-20-2022, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kcnatural

For those that have used them, do they feed reliably? For some reason I thought I read that you have to modify the shotgun to feed them.

Not all guns will cycle these reliably. It’s been a long time since I tried these but I believe an 870 might have problems with them, but think a Win model 1200/1300 might cycle ok. Many semi-autos may not.

kcnatural · 05-20-2022, 10:19 AM

That's what I was thinking, and why I have never tried them. I like the thought of it, just not if life depends on it.

Johnny Dangerr · 05-20-2022, 10:27 AM

That's cool...

hpdrifter · 05-20-2022, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by westtexducks

I know Mossberg 500 and 835 will run them just fine.

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yep, my M 500 handles em just fine.

TacticalCowboy · 05-20-2022, 11:12 AM

https://youtu.be/13LaTffG1K0

Skip to the 8:40 or so mark. I haven’t tried the mini shells, but I’d make sure your gun runs them before loading up the bedside shotgun with them.

Texas Grown · 05-20-2022, 06:28 PM

They also make them with buckshot and slugs.

I could see loading those 7.5s up on a quail hunt.

Out of a single or double barrel, they'd be great camp fodder for whipper tail rattle bugs.

100%TtId · 05-20-2022, 11:36 PM

Could be hard to explain to Mr. Gamewarden standing in a duck blind holding your semiauto even if they were steel or non-tox shot.

muzzlebrake · 05-21-2022, 08:54 AM

They work pretty good on quail. So I've heard.

They cycle OK in my Benelli M1. So they tell me

Chase4556 · 05-21-2022, 02:41 PM

The Aguila 4buck loads would be good for a home defense shotgun as long as they run reliably. I feel a pump action would be what I choose unless I was just messing around with them.

Have a little 410 pump mossberg that I keep around for home defense. Either an extended tube or mini shells for that would be sweet. 5 rounds should be enough though, doubt to many people are sticking around after shot #1.

Artos · 05-21-2022, 03:02 PM

What is the oz / velocity on the buck shot & slugs??

RifleBowPistol · 05-22-2022, 08:26 AM

Those are a good way to mess with a game warden. Yep, I got a plug in my gun and five shells in it too.

RifleBowPistol · 05-22-2022, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by eaglegolfj

I have seen them just not sure what you could shoot them through.

Most any 12 ga., it increases the capacity of a tubular magazine shotgun.

Hoggslayer · 05-22-2022, 08:34 AM

I imagine if you had those in the field, you better have modified you plug so your gun could only hold 3 of them.

Texas Grown · 05-22-2022, 10:10 AM

I thought the 3-shell limit in the field was only applied to migratory like dove, ducks, geese, ect? When did they change the rules on quail, turkey, and other non-migratory game birds, and game?
Is it not common to load a simi-auto or pump 20ga with 5 shots while hunting quail, phesant, and other upland game birds?

Artos · 05-22-2022, 11:18 AM

I can hold 9 shots in the M1 for quail if I wanted...3 shots is indeed migratory.

I can see the appeal for more rounds in your tactical gun if they are reliable, but if the buck shot / slugs are not equal in fps/weight to the current 2 3/4, I'll go with the lesser rounds.

Chase4556 · 05-22-2022, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artos

What is the oz / velocity on the buck shot & slugs??

Buckshot says 1200fps. 7 pellets of 4 buck.

Artos · 05-22-2022, 10:02 PM

no thanks....

jdg13 · 05-23-2022, 07:13 AM

Another gimmick. Lets you hold a lot of relatively weak shells. Mossberg has a 590 that's made with a special carrier to handle them reliably. They'd be good for snakes and such, but seeing as they cost more than a regular field load I don't see the point.

Texas Grown · 05-23-2022, 07:16 PM

I just went to their websight. Mini 12ga buck is 7 pellets of #4B and 4 pellets of #1B. It's a duplex load. That's 11 pellets per minishell. And 5/8oz load at 1200fps. That should hold fairly tight at the slower velocity of 1200fps. Lethal at close range. But so is a 1.5oz load of #2 shot or a load of #6 shot at close range. Just has more recoil.

The mini slug 12ga load is 5/8oz at 1300fps.

https://www.aguilaammo.com/ammunition/shotshell?

They have a 2-3/4" #00 or #0 Buckshot shell also @ 1275fps.

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05-19-2022, 07:57 PM	#1
Shurshot Ten Point Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston Hunt In: Frio/Zavala county	1 & 3/4 shotgun shells??? Never seen these before. Found them at academy. Anyone ever seen these before or know why you would want to use these? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-19-2022, 08:00 PM	#2
westtexducks Pope & Young Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Monahans, TX Hunt In: Where ever I can.	Yeah they are pretty fun actually you can fit a ton of them in a normal sized shotgun less recoil if just screwing around and are safe or so I have been told in the old shotguns not rated for modern shells. Sent from my E6910 using Tapatalk

05-19-2022, 08:01 PM	#3
Kingfisher789 Ten Point Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Austin. Jim Ned Creek Hunt In: Tivydale. Nix. Brownwood	That’s different…..looks left handed to me.

05-19-2022, 11:32 PM	#4
hpdrifter Ten Point Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: kerens Hunt In: anywhere I can	I use em in my home defense shotgun.

05-19-2022, 11:51 PM	#5
eaglegolfj Ten Point Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dayton TX	I have seen them just not sure what you could shoot them through.

05-20-2022, 07:25 AM	#6
Quackerbox Pope & Young Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Magnolia Hunt In: The woods	big deal with the KSG type guns. Been around for a while

05-20-2022, 07:28 AM	#7
kcnatural Eight Point Join Date: May 2015 Location: Goldthwaite Hunt In: Mills CO.	For those that have used them, do they feed reliably? For some reason I thought I read that you have to modify the shotgun to feed them.

05-20-2022, 07:34 AM	#8
tdwinklr Ten Point Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Leonard, TX Hunt In: N. Central and N. East TX	not sure why you would want these? I would think there would be a lot of short-comings with them. I want my shotgun to kill or destroy things. Just saying.

05-20-2022, 08:16 AM	#16
kcnatural Eight Point Join Date: May 2015 Location: Goldthwaite Hunt In: Mills CO.	I get what you are saying. I didn't even notice they were 7 1/2 shot. I thought these only came in slug and buck. I know several people that have switched to 20 ga. shotguns because their old tried and true 12 ga. was just kicking to hard. One particular friend had to switch because of retina detachment. This might allow them to keep shooting 12ga.

05-20-2022, 08:21 AM	#17
diamond10x Ten Point Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Helotes Hunt In: Kinney and Bexar counties	When I first saw them I imagined they were something similar to using rat shot out of a .22 or .45. You would use it for the same thing but looks like they're definitely a step above those type of rounds.

05-20-2022, 08:23 AM	#18
Artos Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Deep South TX Hunt In: Deep South TX	I shoot a 1oz / 1180fps which is basically a 20ga load...shooting it in a full size frame O/U is extremely mild. Heck, You can buy 7/8oz loads in 12ga that are so light they won't trip the recoil operated trigger to shoot the 2nd bbl & not cycle in some autos.

05-20-2022, 10:19 AM	#20
kcnatural Eight Point Join Date: May 2015 Location: Goldthwaite Hunt In: Mills CO.	That's what I was thinking, and why I have never tried them. I like the thought of it, just not if life depends on it.

05-20-2022, 10:27 AM	#21
Johnny Dangerr Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston Hunt In: FJB	That's cool...

05-20-2022, 11:12 AM	#23
TacticalCowboy Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Crowell Hunt In: Southern Taylor County, Tom Green County	https://youtu.be/13LaTffG1K0 Skip to the 8:40 or so mark. I haven’t tried the mini shells, but I’d make sure your gun runs them before loading up the bedside shotgun with them.

05-20-2022, 06:28 PM	#24
Texas Grown Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burleson, Texas Hunt In: Kick CoViD's tail!	They also make them with buckshot and slugs. I could see loading those 7.5s up on a quail hunt. Out of a single or double barrel, they'd be great camp fodder for whipper tail rattle bugs.

05-20-2022, 11:36 PM	#25
100%TtId Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2009	Could be hard to explain to Mr. Gamewarden standing in a duck blind holding your semiauto even if they were steel or non-tox shot.

05-21-2022, 08:54 AM	#26
muzzlebrake Pope & Young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Euless, Texas Hunt In: Sterling County	They work pretty good on quail. So I've heard. They cycle OK in my Benelli M1. So they tell me

05-21-2022, 02:41 PM	#27
Chase4556 Four Point Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Ft Hood/Tomball	The Aguila 4buck loads would be good for a home defense shotgun as long as they run reliably. I feel a pump action would be what I choose unless I was just messing around with them. Have a little 410 pump mossberg that I keep around for home defense. Either an extended tube or mini shells for that would be sweet. 5 rounds should be enough though, doubt to many people are sticking around after shot #1.

05-21-2022, 03:02 PM	#28
Artos Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Deep South TX Hunt In: Deep South TX	What is the oz / velocity on the buck shot & slugs??

05-22-2022, 08:26 AM	#29
RifleBowPistol Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2017	Those are a good way to mess with a game warden. Yep, I got a plug in my gun and five shells in it too.

05-22-2022, 08:34 AM	#31
Hoggslayer Pope & Young Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Manvel, TX mostly in the Doghouse Hunt In: My Truck at night.	I imagine if you had those in the field, you better have modified you plug so your gun could only hold 3 of them.

05-22-2022, 10:10 AM	#32
Texas Grown Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burleson, Texas Hunt In: Kick CoViD's tail!	I thought the 3-shell limit in the field was only applied to migratory like dove, ducks, geese, ect? When did they change the rules on quail, turkey, and other non-migratory game birds, and game? Is it not common to load a simi-auto or pump 20ga with 5 shots while hunting quail, phesant, and other upland game birds?

05-22-2022, 11:18 AM	#33
Artos Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Deep South TX Hunt In: Deep South TX	I can hold 9 shots in the M1 for quail if I wanted...3 shots is indeed migratory. I can see the appeal for more rounds in your tactical gun if they are reliable, but if the buck shot / slugs are not equal in fps/weight to the current 2 3/4, I'll go with the lesser rounds.

05-22-2022, 10:02 PM	#35
Artos Pope & Young Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Deep South TX Hunt In: Deep South TX	no thanks....

05-23-2022, 07:13 AM	#36
jdg13 Ten Point Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Houston Hunt In: Someplace, TX	Another gimmick. Lets you hold a lot of relatively weak shells. Mossberg has a 590 that's made with a special carrier to handle them reliably. They'd be good for snakes and such, but seeing as they cost more than a regular field load I don't see the point.

05-23-2022, 07:16 PM	#37
Texas Grown Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Burleson, Texas Hunt In: Kick CoViD's tail!	I just went to their websight. Mini 12ga buck is 7 pellets of #4B and 4 pellets of #1B. It's a duplex load. That's 11 pellets per minishell. And 5/8oz load at 1200fps. That should hold fairly tight at the slower velocity of 1200fps. Lethal at close range. But so is a 1.5oz load of #2 shot or a load of #6 shot at close range. Just has more recoil. The mini slug 12ga load is 5/8oz at 1300fps. https://www.aguilaammo.com/ammunition/shotshell? They have a 2-3/4" #00 or #0 Buckshot shell also @ 1275fps.