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Old 10-15-2021, 03:36 PM   #1
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So I have been hunting this place for 4 years and it has been a lot of fun. I have killed some good axis, whitetails are getting better, but none worth shooting yet. Well, the land owner put 25 goats in the section of land that I am hunting and now they are all in my pen eating my protein, alfalfa and corn.

So I can add cattle panels to keep the goats out, but it also keeps out the axis fawns, whitetail fawns and all blackbuck.

Should I add cattle panels and just keep hunting OR should I just leave 3 strands of barb wire and hope for the best? If I don't put up cattle panel I will be feeding his goats, but how much will 25 goats eat?

OR worse case scenario, should I just finish the year and get off?

UGH, I hate these decisions.

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Old 10-15-2021, 03:38 PM   #2
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I'd move the corn feeder out and fence the protein and alfalfa.
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Old 10-15-2021, 03:39 PM   #3
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I'd move the corn feeder out and fence the protein and alfalfa.
So put the Corn Feeder where they can all get some of the corn? I hadn't thought about that at all
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Old 10-15-2021, 03:41 PM   #4
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So put the Corn Feeder where they can all get some of the corn? I hadn't thought about that at all
You don't need to worry about fawns and blackbuck getting the supplemental feed (protein and alfalfa). I don't think the goats are going to compete with the deer on the corn. But you might want to hand corn on the days you hunt, and bring a slingshot!
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Old 10-15-2021, 03:41 PM   #5
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How about cattle panels around the protein feeder and leave the corn feeder as is?
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Old 10-15-2021, 03:42 PM   #6
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Duane beat me to it
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Old 10-15-2021, 03:47 PM   #7
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fence it out. I wouldn't worry about the fawns. They get what they need from momma.
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Old 10-15-2021, 03:52 PM   #8
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Goats are the worst, it's hard to anything to keep them out.
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:07 PM   #9
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Kill the goats and tell the owner they died ?
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:08 PM   #10
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Just put a 40" fence around the corn feeder or both. Works for us.
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:08 PM   #11
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Pen it off even if it’s just protein. Don’t get off though unless something else horrible is going on, sounds like a great place outside of the goats of course. Target rich environment!
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:12 PM   #12
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I think you should get off and give me land owner contact info.
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:13 PM   #13
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If you leave the corn feeder out, I think the goats would come running when it does off.
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:18 PM   #14
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If you decide the pen route make sure the squares in your panels are small enough where they can’t get their heads through and then hang up because of there horns or you’ll show up to 12 dead goats at your feeder and every buzzard in the county has set up a mail box. Don’t ask me how I know.
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:23 PM   #15
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Don't worry about the fawns and black buck. Pen everything off with 36" hog panel. Once those goats realize they can't get to the feed, the will not be around your setup near as often.
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:25 PM   #16
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Fence out the goats and keep hunting… lots of folks looking for a lease… sounds like other than the goats you have a nice place to hunt.
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Old 10-15-2021, 04:52 PM   #17
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Kill the goats and tell the owner they died ?

I like the way you think.


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Old 10-15-2021, 05:09 PM   #18
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Kill the goats and tell the owner they died ?
Absolutely. Cabrito!
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Old 10-15-2021, 05:52 PM   #19
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Just set up another feeder on the other side of the property and fill it with pea gravel, then set it to go off 10 minutes before yours.
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Old 10-15-2021, 05:55 PM   #20
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Fence out the goats. Don't worry about fawns.
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Old 10-15-2021, 05:58 PM   #21
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I gotta chupacabra you can borrow
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:01 PM   #22
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fence it off and throw some alfalfa just out of their reach on the inside of the pen and the problem will fix itself.........

KIDDING dont do that, the goats will get their heads stuck trying to reach the alfalfa and die.
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:06 PM   #23
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Cattle suck. Goats and sheep are worse. You can fence em out or kiss your season good bye. Both corn and protein. Before long, if the goats can get to it, they will rush in when the feeder goes off. Good luck!
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:08 PM   #24
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Hopefully your goats will move along after you put up a pen; however, we brought in goats many years ago to help with the pasture maintenance and they all jumped over our 40" panels like they were in the Olympics. They knew all feeder locations and became very conditioned to our feeding times. Needless to say, we were not in the goat business long!!
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:31 PM   #25
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My goats love corn. I hand feed them at the house when I head to the back to hunt. I have a fence around the feeder to keep them out as well.
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:33 PM   #26
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If you decide the pen route make sure the squares in your panels are small enough where they canít get their heads through and then hang up because of there horns or youíll show up to 12 dead goats at your feeder and every buzzard in the county has set up a mail box. Donít ask me how I know.

This is an absolute truth. Itís the reason our land owner doesnít allow cattle panels unless we also put 2Ēx3Ē welded wire either inside or on the outside of the panels to prevent those stupid bastions from commuting goatecide
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Old 10-15-2021, 06:37 PM   #27
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I agree with the above, you will learn to curse the little devils.

Fence with panels small enough to keep them out.

Don't worry about the fawns and black buck they'll live.

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Old 10-15-2021, 06:40 PM   #28
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Can't goats jump over panels same as deer? Serious question.
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Old 10-15-2021, 08:04 PM   #29
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Iím not familiar with goat prices, but I canít imagine 25 goats would kick off very much income. See if you can lease the grazing rights.


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Old 10-15-2021, 08:11 PM   #30
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Offer him more money to put them in someone else’s pasture!
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Old 10-15-2021, 08:17 PM   #31
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Iím not familiar with goat prices, but I canít imagine 25 goats would kick off very much income. See if you can lease the grazing rights.


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You haven't checked the goat market lately.
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Old 10-15-2021, 09:50 PM   #32
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Ditch the feeders and pens. You don't need them to kill deer. Yeah feeders work well, but a natural blind on an established deer run will put venison in the freezer and don't be surprised if you kill your best deer. Hand feed the area when you hunt.

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Old 10-15-2021, 10:12 PM   #33
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Who wants cabarito for supper. Goats are about as bad as hogs once they find feed.
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:35 PM   #34
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Have you talked to the owner to see what his reason is for bringing in goats? Is it for a livestock exemption ? If so maybe work with him to turn it into a wildlife exemption. Or bring in some hives of bees. Try communicating with the owner. If there are no work around the goats put up cattle panels around your protein and alfalfa. Good luck.
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Old 10-15-2021, 11:12 PM   #35
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Depending on what kind of goats they are, you need to be sure to use fence material they can't get their heads through the fence. Otherwise you be fishing dead and alive goats out of your feeder pen fencing.
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Old 10-15-2021, 11:28 PM   #36
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If you decide the pen route make sure the squares in your panels are small enough where they canít get their heads through and then hang up because of there horns or youíll show up to 12 dead goats at your feeder and every buzzard in the county has set up a mail box. Donít ask me how I know.
This for sure, if they have horns. 4x4 mesh goat panels, or 2x4 no climb. I've had a couple goats that could easily clear 40", but most haven't tried. As to the question of how much will the goats eat... they'll eat until it's gone, and possibly bloat and die. I was running a timed feeder for a while for wildlife. The goats got to where they would come running every time the feeder went off.
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Old 10-15-2021, 11:36 PM   #37
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Have a man to man talk and depending on the that make decisions from there.
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