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Old 01-07-2020, 06:50 PM   #1
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Default The Official 2020 TBH/APR Special

Ok guys, the details of the 2020 APR TBH deal have been worked out and we’re ready to roll!

What it is – This is a once a year deal we extend to our TBH family that offers a significant discount on a rifle platform that we design as a group, right here on the forum. It is our way of showing our thanks to the members of this forum for their support throughout the years. As such, it is only available to TBH members. We will have 2 options available for this year’s build as follows:

Option 1……..The lightweight vertical grip stock
$2,799 TBH Special $3,499 Retail


Action: Defiance Tenacity (APR version with integral lug, hex shroud, deep flutes)
Barrel: Proof Light Sendero on short actions/Proof Sendero on long actions. Threaded 5/8-24 with blended thread protector.
Stock: McMillan Carbon Game Hunter(paint ready, no exposed carbon fiber, 3 sling studs, 2 flush cups)
Trigger: Trigger Tech Primary
Bottom Metal: APR BDL
Finish: Cerakote action and Barrel ends in your color of choice. Standard Camo patterns, webbing or sponge camo on stock in your colors of choice
Upgrade options:
Trigger Tech Special +$40
Molded in stock finish +$65
Front Pic Rail +$45
Custom Paint Scheme or Hydro-dip on stock +$250
Barrel fluting +$75
Muzzle brakes …..Blended Radial +$100
Blended Gill Style +$135
Area 419 Hellfire +$170
Mullerworks APR contour Steel Barrel -$300



Option 2……..The lightweight traditional stock
$2,749 in carbon $2,449 in steel

This one was a little tougher since it is essentially our Maverick package, which is already deeply discounted, with just the addition of a carbon fiber barrel. This stock geometry limits us to the Proof Sendero Light contour. Because of this, our preference is to not build the larger magnum rounds on this option given our experience with this contour and factory ammo performance in the magnums. That said, handloaders will not have the same limitations and we don’t want to exclude them. We will build it, but will not guarantee it’s level of performance with factory ammo.

Action: Defiance Tenacity (APR version with integral lug, hex shroud, deep flutes)
Barrel: Proof Light Sendero. Threaded 5/8-24 with blended thread protector.
Stock: AG Composites APR Hunter(exposed carbon fiber, 3 sling studs, 2 flush cups)
Trigger: Trigger Tech Primary
Bottom Metal: APR BDL
Finish: Cerakote action and Barrel ends in your color of choice. Standard Camo patterns, webbing or sponge camo on stock in your colors of choice
Upgrade options:
Trigger Tech Special +$40
Front Pic Rail +$45
Custom Paint Scheme or Hydro-dip on stock+$250
Barrel fluting _$75
Muzzle brakes …..Blended Radial +$100
Blended Gill Style +$135
Area 419 Hellfire +$170

When it is - We will begin taking orders at 10:00 AM beginning Weds 1/8/2020, and will stop taking orders at 5:00 PM on Weds 1/22/2020. We have reserved production capacity for up to 100 units. If volume exceeds our allotted production capacity, we will close the books early. All component orders will be placed on 1/28/2020. We anticipate rifles will begin delivering in late March, and complete deliveries by late July.

Pricing/Deposits – A deposit of $2,000 will be required when order is placed. The remaining balance is due upon rifle’s completion. I realize this is different than previous year’s deposit policies, but there were quite a few who did not pay the remaining balances until months after completion last year. Sorry about the increase, but it keeps this thing doable on our end.

How to participate – Simply call the shop to place your order or ask questions during normal business hours. Our number is 817-284-0034. Garrett, Jason, John or myself will be happy to assist or consult with you on your build choices. There is an infinite number of camo choices or color schemes to choose from, far too many to post here. I’d urge you to visit our FB or IG page to look at examples to get an idea of what’s possible. Twist rates and barrel lengths will be limited to what’s available from proof. Pretty much anything you want will be available in steel. Left hand options WILL be available with no restrictions or limitations this year! And Caliber choices will be pretty much anything from .223 to 338 RUM. This should get us started. Please ask questions here, as many of us have been down this road before and can offer advice…..and it might just help someone else that has the same questions. I’m not going to answer any questions regarding this deal via PM, as I won’t have the opportunity to keep up with it very efficiently. Let the games begin!

And sincerely, THANK YOU FOLKS THAT MAKE THIS POSSIBLE.

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Old 01-07-2020, 06:51 PM   #2
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Old 01-07-2020, 06:54 PM   #3
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Iím in again! Will be calling tomorrow


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Old 01-07-2020, 06:59 PM   #4
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Alamo rocks! Just Picked up my first custom build from them yesterday...amazing!
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:07 PM   #5
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Does the steel barrels come with choice of fluting?
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:23 PM   #6
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Does the steel barrels come with choice of fluting?
We hadn't planned on it, but I just went back and added it for those who want it for less than 1/2 price.
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:27 PM   #7
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Robert, which cartridges would you advise against with the Sendero Light? Any of the Noslers or 300s and larger? Or really anything with magnum in the name?

I’m hoping a 6.5 PRC would work in option 2! Thanks for doing this.
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:31 PM   #8
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Robert, which cartridges would you advise against with the Sendero Light? Any of the Noslers or 300s and larger? Or really anything with magnum in the name?

Iím hoping a 6.5 PRC would work in option 2! Thanks for doing this.
Any of the Noslers, Rums, STWs or win mags would be less than ideal. 6.5PRC and SAUMs would work fine. They'll all work, but the bigger ones are far more likely to need tuning and care that factory ammo can't provide. There are exceptions to every rule, though. Its really just a roll of the dice.
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:37 PM   #10
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Thank you sir, I along with the rest or the forum(I’m confident) really appreciate you being accessible on the board.
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:41 PM   #11
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Thanks for details & pricing. I'm a bit torn between a couple caliber choices but will plan on calling tomorrow to get a deposit in.
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:49 PM   #12
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Is a DBM an option on these?
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Old 01-07-2020, 07:57 PM   #13
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Someone needs to buy the rifle I have listed in classifieds so I can get in on this.

APR Rocks!

So now for my question.....Robert have you experienced feeding issues with the 6.5 saum? I’m wanting a super flat shooting rifle for deer sized game and long range targets. Trying to decide between 6.5 saum with 140ish pills, 6.5 prc with 140ish pills, or 280ai with 160ish pills. And no longer than 24” barrel, maybe even 22” in the 6.5? What’s your thoughts?

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Robert, is there an option for a wyatts mag, or is it included?
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Old 01-07-2020, 08:17 PM   #15
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I’m in and planning to call
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Old 01-07-2020, 08:30 PM   #16
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Iím very interested in this! Could I get in a 16Ē barrel with 308? Looking for a new hunting rifle


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Not on this go round. Probably wouldn't fit the lines of these builds very well, but most importantly...........we got smoking pricing based on a very limited number of inlets. Turn times should reflect this as well
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Old 01-07-2020, 08:46 PM   #18
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ok, decided on a 6.5SS build. Hard choice now is the cosmetics of the build with action/barrel cerakote & stock appearance. I like the colors of the stock & action from this Browning product, just not a fan of the small splotchy pattern on the stock -


Robert - would those colors in this pattern on the stock be a custom/add on cost paint job?


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So now for my question.....Robert have you experienced feeding issues with the 6.5 saum? Iím wanting a super flat shooting rifle for deer sized game and long range targets. Trying to decide between 6.5 saum with 140ish pills, 6.5 prc with 140ish pills, or 280ai with 160ish pills.

I have seen issues with both 6.5s at one point or another. Don't let that scare you off them. Both are awesome rounds. I know the 140s get all the love with both rounds, but the 130 class stuff has big advantages inside 1k and often get overlooked. For the PRC especially.
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Robert, is there an option for a wyatts mag, or is it included?
Wyatt's is not a problem. Hard to price given the different versions so I didn't even put it on the list. Just ask for it when ordering.
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So the base components are set, but caliber, barrel length, twist rate and finish are all up to you.
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ok, decided on a 6.5SS build. Hard choice now is the cosmetics of the build with action/barrel cerakote & stock appearance. I like the colors of the stock & action from this Browning product, just not a fan of the small splotchy pattern on the stock -


Robert - would those colors in this pattern on the stock be a custom/add on cost paint job?


No sir
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Robert, thoughts on a 22” 6.5 PRC?

Seems like in the other thread today you weren’t a huge fan of the idea? I’m just 100% in the “shorter barrel with a can while hunting” camp it’s not even funny. The 20” 22-250 from last year is a dream so wanting to stay short with a caliber that packs a bigger punch up to Elk and maybe a poor mans sheep

Thank you sir!

P.S- I’ll be calling to ask also so you guys can more and likely tell me NO while I continue to double check y’all’s certainty
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Iíve checked the planning and pricing threads every day since they came out, waiting for the hard details. Iíve been very excited to get in on this build after missing out on last years.

They look great, but Iím pretty disappointed to not have a BDM option.


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Iíve checked the planning and pricing threads every day since they came out, waiting for the hard details. Iíve been very excited to get in on this build after missing out on last years.

They look great, but Iím pretty disappointed to not have a BDM option.


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HS Precision DBM might be an option on some set ups as its a pretty similar inlet, just ask when you call. M5 is for sure out on this one.
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Robert, thoughts on a 22Ē 6.5 PRC?

Seems like in the other thread today you werenít a huge fan of the idea? Iím just 100% in the ďshorter barrel with a can while huntingĒ camp itís not even funny. The 20Ē 22-250 from last year is a dream so wanting to stay short with a caliber that packs a bigger punch up to Elk and maybe a poor mans sheep

Thank you sir!

P.S- Iíll be calling to ask also so you guys can more and likely tell me NO while I continue to double check yíallís certainty

You want a 22" PRC, I'm building you a 22" PRC! Lol I'll be the first to admit, them short barrels skeer me
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Thinking a long action 6.5 prc with 26Ē barrel plus a suppressor. Thinking that would cause any issues with a Mullerworks steel barrel?

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Guess on the weight for #2 long action?
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None at all
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Carbon?
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Weight estimate on a number 1 short action carbon barrel?
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You want a 22" PRC, I'm building you a 22" PRC! Lol I'll be the first to admit, them short barrels skeer me
Robert, care to elaborate a bit? Any issues with a shorter barreled PRC?
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Old 01-07-2020, 09:42 PM   #34
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Weight estimates are tough. Stocks can run 3 oz different themselves. Barrel length, bore diameter and chamber dimensions all play a role. Carbon versions on both options are going to run between 6.75 and 7.5 lbs on average.
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Robert, care to elaborate a bit? Any issues with a shorter barreled PRC?

Just velocity loss, and how much you are willing to accept. As long as it works for you, it really doesn't matter.
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How would the .300 WSM work in a 22" Sendero Light barrel, and which brake would you recommend for it.
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How would the .300 WSM work in a 22" Sendero Light barrel, and which brake would you recommend for it.
If it was mine, I'd run a sendero profile. Only looking at a few ozs difference for more rigidity.
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Probably right over 7lbs with a 24" barrel
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Robert you ever figure out what caliber you want to build for mine?


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Haha. Was just thinking about that when I posted this thread! You didn't leave many options! Can I turn this one over to Cajun Blake?
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Tough decisions. Do I need a 3rd apr?
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Defiance's website gives an option of a pic rail or Talley's, can we go Talley's with this build?
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IM IN! OPtion 1 Steel in 28 Nosler!

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As far as brakes go...which reduces recoil the most? A gill or radial? I'd rather go gill because it won't blow dirt as bad shooting prone.
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Old 01-08-2020, 07:17 AM   #46
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I'll be calling this morning to get an option 1 in 280AI!
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Thanks for the help Robert and Looks like I’ll be in for a option 1!
With the new pup getting training and a house happening in the summer gotta make sure all the ducks are in a row and won’t be ordering till the end of the time bracket.
I just hope all the non members and people who made accounts just to take advantage of this don’t take up all the rifles before then!
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Robert will we be able to get a proof 20" in a 7mm/08 this year?
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Robert, what stock color options are available? I assume everything you offer, but what about what McMillan color and what are the "custom" paint options? I saw on one of your guns a diamondback pattern by Beauchamp Machine Company that looks BadA. Is that considered a custom stock color?






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Old 01-08-2020, 10:58 AM   #50
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Can you guys do something like this
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