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Old 09-22-2022, 10:11 AM   #1
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Arrow Comment Period Open for proposed TPWD Regulation

TPWD is considering allowing night time use of UAV (aka drones) to hunt wild hogs and exotics.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/business/feed...1_aerial.phtml

Personally, I think this is a Pandora's box for unauthorized take of game and non-game animals. As a landowner I have utter distain for wild hogs and love seeing new and innovative ways to control them.

But, also as a landowner I have had problems with drones flying over my house (I'm 1 - 2 miles from any public road and dern sure not in the line of sight). I've had issues with poachers spotlighting my pastures and house at night.

I can foresee poachers using UAV to harass whitetail off my property to make it easier to shoot them at night. Drones are very quiet and virtually undetectable, especially at night. By the time LEO is called, the drones are long gone without a trace.

Please comment on the TPWD proposed rule by November 2.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:19 AM   #2
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I hope to not see any drones over my property !
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:21 AM   #3
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Done, and thanks !
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:29 AM   #4
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Done. Canít stand drones.


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Old 09-22-2022, 10:30 AM   #5
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I love the idea of being able to hunt hogs with a remote controlled aircraft.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:39 AM   #6
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Smh.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:49 AM   #7
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Not a fan from a landowners prespective. I see pigs getting shot with no real way to track the issue of whose shooting them. If a landowner could possibly pull a permit and use it for depredation only on his property it would be ok. But i agree this is opening pandoras box to people crossing property lines way to easy to shoot stuff. I think these would be way to hard to regulate. If we could trust people to stay within their property lines then it would be ok.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:55 AM   #8
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Who needs to run a hog dog over someone else's property when you have a drone?
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:59 AM   #9
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Not a fan from a landowners prespective. I see pigs getting shot with no real way to track the issue of whose shooting them. If a landowner could possibly pull a permit and use it for depredation only on his property it would be ok. But i agree this is opening pandoras box to people crossing property lines way to easy to shoot stuff. I think these would be way to hard to regulate. If we could trust people to stay within their property lines then it would be ok.
The proposal states you have to have a permit. And states you have to get approval for the tract of land you want to operate on/over.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:06 AM   #10
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Are we talking about ARMED DRONES? I am not sure how I feel about that.

Now, I do think we should be open to all logical methods of hog eradication. I also think this will allow the heli-hunters to go at em at night, which I am for, on their own property or with permission. Isn't there a law with how low you can fly a drone over someone else's property? I would assume that regulation won't change. Yes, there can be some times where someone will drone over another's property without permission, but that is not a new issue. I don't see how just by allowing their use for hog hunting will exacerbate the situation. There are 2 types of people in the world, those that break laws, and those that don't. If they would fly over your property illegally, because they can now legally use them for hog hunting, they are already doing it now when it is illegal to use for hog hunting.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:46 AM   #11
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The proposal states you have to have a permit. And states you have to get approval for the tract of land you want to operate on/over.
SamSowell with no disrespect aimed at you I call BS. When dealing with State or Federal permitting it will always be about the money. There will be no way to police this if it were to happen. I had to have a county issued builders permit to build my restaurant. No one from the county came to inspect upon completion. I have to have an annual State Health permit to operate. Around 1500 dollars yearly to pay for annual inspections. Fee is due every year and we have not seen the inspector for 2 years. All about the fees and thatís all.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:06 PM   #12
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This isn't something I have given too much thought towards, but I believe I would be for this. I don't see this opening pandora's box. People are already poaching, trespassing, etc. People are either ethical hunters or they aren't. If an ethical hunter has a drone in the air, they're still an ethical hunter and are just as likely to not cross property lines. An unethical hunter will be tempted to poach regardless of the tools that assist him.

The state has also shown they want to deregulate hog hunting by the fact you don't even need a license anymore to hunt them. KAP. This is just another tool to help.

Editor's note, I'm not a land owner and can't comprehend the issues ya'll have, so keep my limited perspective in mind.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:43 PM   #13
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This isn't something I have given too much thought towards, but I believe I would be for this. I don't see this opening pandora's box. People are already poaching, trespassing, etc. People are either ethical hunters or they aren't. If an ethical hunter has a drone in the air, they're still an ethical hunter and are just as likely to not cross property lines. An unethical hunter will be tempted to poach regardless of the tools that assist him.

The state has also shown they want to deregulate hog hunting by the fact you don't even need a license anymore to hunt them. KAP. This is just another tool to help.

Editor's note, I'm not a land owner and can't comprehend the issues ya'll have, so keep my limited perspective in mind.

x2! I am a landowner And I kill 300-400 hogs a year and still more to go before Dec 31

Work a fine line here. Take away legal hunting means, what's next thermals? No guns just bc bad guys use them too?

I bring my thermal to the deer stand during season, but I obviously ain't shooting no deer with it
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:46 PM   #14
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I can't find anywhere on the permit site about a fee, but in the TPWD legal docs it says there's a fee. Wouldn't surprise me, it's always about the money.
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:51 PM   #15
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I agree that folks are ethical or not, but if this goes into effect it gives an unethical person some cover to do unethical things. Just like killing an illegal deer during the season or taking too many doves, etc. It was legal to be hunting, just wasn’t legal hunting if you get my drift.
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:52 PM   #16
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No doubt laws only keep honest people honest but I already have a huge disdain for drones simply because of the invasion of privacy they are already allowed; so this would be a big nope from me.


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Old 09-22-2022, 02:03 PM   #17
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Firm NO!
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Old 09-22-2022, 02:15 PM   #18
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Gave them my opinion...
However, I don't know that it matters. TPWD will enact this as long as they think there is money to be made.
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:22 PM   #19
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I had no idea that using a drone to locate feral hogs was currently against the law.

There is a youtube channel where they regularly use a thermal drone to film the taking of feral hogs
That drone is about $15K
Doubt many poachers are going to fork out that kind of $$

All that being said, I still don't want anybody flying over my place with their drone unless I give permission
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Old 09-22-2022, 06:43 PM   #20
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Don’t anybody own property in this state. You rent it from the government. Why would you need a stinking permit to fly a drone? I’m permitted out.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:36 PM   #21
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Donít anybody own property in this state. You rent it from the government. Why would you need a stinking permit to fly a drone? Iím permitted out.

All drones over 250 grams are registered with the FAA.

Some of the newer drone requirements would enable LEO to find out what drones were where when and who they belong to.

I have a drone, I fly it at my lease occasionally, but itís use for hog hunting if legal would be very limited it. Basically it could tell you where they were, but in my experience they are constantly moving.

Overall I donít see any upside to allowing it and a lot of downsides. Currently in Texas itís illegal to even photograph wildlife with a drone. Probably best to hold the line there.
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:41 PM   #22
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Nope.....thanks for making me aware!!!!
Reminds me of a few years ago with folks using live cameras to shoot animals from their home or office in downtown Houston/Dallas/Nashville, etc. What a mess!!!
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Old 09-22-2022, 07:56 PM   #23
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No.
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Old 09-22-2022, 08:20 PM   #24
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Skeet shoot.


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Old 09-22-2022, 08:25 PM   #25
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Yíall making big todo about nothing it is already legal to do so. All they are doing is wanting to put it officially in the book that it is legal so they quit getting phone calls on it.


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Old 09-22-2022, 08:26 PM   #26
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Done. It’s bad enough that people turn their hog dogs loose and let them run all over your property. I can only imagine the Pandora’s box that would open.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:44 PM   #27
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Big NO from me.
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:12 PM   #28
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Lol.Guys been doing that for a while!
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