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Old 09-21-2022, 04:31 AM   #1
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Anyone planted yet? I sprayed my plots last week and just waiting on rain in the forecast to plant.
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Old 09-21-2022, 05:20 AM   #2
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Most of my stuff is turned over, just waiting on rain now.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:00 AM   #3
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I planted September 1, because there was rain in the forecast all that week. So far, I’ve only got 3 showers on it, but it’s doing surprisingly well considering. I planted BFO’s and a food plot blend a friend in Oklahoma sells. The deer love it.

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Old 09-21-2022, 04:15 PM   #4
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I am going to spray this weekend, but when I was there Monday night it was too dry and I didn't like the 10 day forecast.
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Old 09-21-2022, 04:21 PM   #5
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Sprayed about a month ago. Waiting on mid October is and wet forecast. Going to try something new this year. Planting about 1.5 acres in a fall blend.

The experiment will be pinto beans. Saw a 50lb sack of pintos at Sam's for fairly cheap that got the wheels turning. Went home, planted a few out of my bean jar, and every one of them sprouted. Went back to Sam's and bought a sack. Going to plant them with the fall blend. Have done some research since then and found that the people that plant them, say the deer hammer em. We shall see.

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Old 09-21-2022, 04:29 PM   #6
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All mine at home were sprayed today, the plots at the lease that I didn’t get a week ago were also sprayed today. I don’t have any big plots, 1/2 acre being about the biggest, but I have lots of smaller plots. Some of them need a little lime, that’s next. I’m fighting Red Root Pigweed in one plot. I smoked it a few weeks ago but the little rain we had brought out some more, which I sprayed this morning. That chit is hard to get rid of with the thousands of seeds each plant produces. I’m just waiting on some kind of rain in the forecast now.
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Old 09-21-2022, 04:31 PM   #7
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I planted Saturday in hopes of something happening. Wasn't sure if I was late or early but wanted to at least get in the ground but rain is not looking good.
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Old 09-21-2022, 04:40 PM   #8
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Sprayed my plots this past weekend, waiting on the rain. Probably wont get too creative with the blend this year.
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Old 09-21-2022, 05:33 PM   #9
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Anyone have any suggestions on what blend I could plant now that would give them nutrition all that way untill mid summer? I know some clovers mature at different times.

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Old 09-21-2022, 06:37 PM   #10
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Most clovers go dormant in the winter, but Medium Red does pretty well. I plant wheat and Daikon Radish, sometimes add Medium Red. I used to plant Austrian Winter Peas and it did well but I could never see much evidence that the deer actually browsed them. As a rule I donít like blends packaged together because varying sizes of seeds need different depths. I usually plant my wheat, drag it in, and plant the radish or clover (or both) on top, then drag again.
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:43 PM   #11
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Plowing this weekend. Planting next week
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Old 09-21-2022, 07:49 PM   #12
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Mine is in the ground, planted 12 days ago. No rain that I know of since we planted. Hope to get some soon!
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Old 09-21-2022, 08:19 PM   #13
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I sprayed two fields today with Gly and Target 6. Target 6 does wonders for grass burs and yellow nutsedge. Around here when the hogs root they is chasing the nuts on the roots of the nutsedge.

One field near the creek bottom has hard pan so bad that I will moldboard plow it, I never sprayed it either. I have oat and purple top turnip seeds bought.

We are still in drought real bad here, the army worms are out as well. I would like to plant before the last week of October but I have planted in November.

I envy you fellas up north and to the east of me, you can grow so much more of a variety in your plots than I can. I have to use drought resistant strains on everything I plant.

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Old 09-21-2022, 09:25 PM   #14
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Too dry here to even tear up the ground.
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Old 09-21-2022, 10:03 PM   #15
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Most clovers go dormant in the winter, but Medium Red does pretty well. I plant wheat and Daikon Radish, sometimes add Medium Red. I used to plant Austrian Winter Peas and it did well but I could never see much evidence that the deer actually browsed them. As a rule I donít like blends packaged together because varying sizes of seeds need different depths. I usually plant my wheat, drag it in, and plant the radish or clover (or both) on top, then drag again.
Thanks. I thought about clover mix, with the addition of chicory and alfalfa

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Old 09-21-2022, 11:23 PM   #16
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Anyone have any suggestions on what blend I could plant now that would give them nutrition all that way untill mid summer? I know some clovers mature at different times.

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Turner fall deer mix w/clover is tall and thick in early May when I terminate it and plant cowpeas, but will be mature in May/June and deer arenít eating it. There is plenty of other browse that time of year.

I sprayed 2 weeks ago and waiting on rain before broadcasting for no till plots. Probably will be mid Oct this year.


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Old 09-22-2022, 09:15 AM   #17
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If you are planting in East Texas, a good start would be to plant oats/cereal rye at about 100 lbs acre combined, plus 10 lbs of crimson clover and 5 lbs of arrowleaf clover to the acre. Assuming you have good soil fertility and decent pH, you should have quality forage up to June +/- 1 month depending on heat.

I have been planting a variation of that mix for 10+years and it works hands down. Once you get the clovers established well, you don't have to plant them but every other or every third year.
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:20 AM   #18
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I sprayed two fields today with Gly and Target 6. Target 6 does wonders for grass burs and yellow nutsedge. Around here when the hogs root they is chasing the nuts on the roots of the nutsedge.

One field near the creek bottom has hard pan so bad that I will moldboard plow it, I never sprayed it either. I have oat and purple top turnip seeds bought.

We are still in drought real bad here, the army worms are out as well. I would like to plant before the last week of October but I have planted in November.

I envy you fellas up north and to the east of me, you can grow so much more of a variety in your plots than I can. I have to use drought resistant strains on everything I plant.
What would the addition of MSMA do if you area already using Gly? I would think that with 3-4 pints per acre of Gly would give plenty of burndown on grasses?
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Old 09-22-2022, 09:40 AM   #19
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Just waiting for rain in the forecast to plant. Im wanting to use a blend from east texas seed company, Atwoods sells it. Anyone have any experience with that seed blend?

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Old 09-22-2022, 09:48 AM   #20
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To dry at my place in blossom to plant. Quick question for not till is it better to toss it into high weeds then mow the weeds so the seeds are covered up?
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What would the addition of MSMA do if you area already using Gly? I would think that with 3-4 pints per acre of Gly would give plenty of burndown on grasses?
Gly does not kill Nutsedge. Nutsedge is not a grass or a broad leaf, so a non selective herbicide like Gly does not kill it.

I can deal with some nutsedge but when we have poor soil conditions like this year it really spreads. Right now the Nutsedge in my area is headed out and I was told to treat it now. This picture is a result of hogs rooting up a patch of nutgrass in one of my plots.

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Old 09-22-2022, 10:26 AM   #22
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plowed mine up behind the house last night and going to plow the other one up this weekend. Planning to plant this and my winter pasture about the 1wk of October. Hoping to see some rain by then...
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Jeff, I had good luck with Sedgehammer on what little sedge I had on the place I sold. It’s expensive but it works. Luckily I only had a little spot of it so it wasn’t too bad. The hogs love to root in it !
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Old 09-22-2022, 10:42 AM   #24
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Which one is it? think they have a few i used something from them last year then i added some other stuff in with it. only thing that came up was the wheat and rye. Maybe i choked it out idk.
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To dry at my place in blossom to plant. Quick question for not till is it better to toss it into high weeds then mow the weeds so the seeds are covered up?

Yes, if you arenít able to or donít want to spray. Seed it heavy.


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Jeff, I had good luck with Sedgehammer on what little sedge I had on the place I sold. It’s expensive but it works. Luckily I only had a little spot of it so it wasn’t too bad. The hogs love to root in it !
I have used Sledgehammer but when it comes to several acres needing treated it was not cost effective. Target6 is 110.00 for 2.5 gallons and will do several acres twice a year. It will also kill the heck out of pigweed and dallis grass.

I was told molasses and water mix will kill Nutsedge, lol. I could only imagine the hogs and coons finding molasses flavored weeds.

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Gly does not kill Nutsedge. Nutsedge is not a grass or a broad leaf, so a non selective herbicide like Gly does not kill it.

I can deal with some nutsedge but when we have poor soil conditions like this year it really spreads. Right now the Nutsedge in my area is headed out and I was told to treat it now. This picture is a result of hogs rooting up a patch of nutgrass in one of my plots.
Got it, thanks. Learned something new today.
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Old 09-22-2022, 05:17 PM   #28
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. Do y'all know if anything that could be planted on the roads through the lease that can handle occasional traffic.a

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I sprayed my plots Labor Day weekend in preparation to plant last weekend or this weekend…. I am waiting on some rain in the forecast before pulling the trigger. Looking like it will be after season opens…. I hate that, I like it to be done before season starts so all I need to worry about is hunting and having a good time.
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Depends on the soil type. If itís not too sandy white clovers will work. You wonít have anything growing in the ruts but the rest of it will be ok. I used Imperial Whitetail clover on a couple of roads in a creek bottom and it worked well. Just need to spray clethodim once a year or so to kill the grasses and mow it high, 8Ē or so off the ground, when it blooms. That will normally take care of the weeds.
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I have used Sledgehammer but when it comes to several acres needing treated it was not cost effective. Target6 is 110.00 for 2.5 gallons and will do several acres twice a year. It will also kill the heck out of pigweed and dallis grass.
Thatís good info about the pigweed. I have some in one plot that must have came with some IC peas that I planted. It has been tough to get rid of. I smoked it with gly and Butyrac earlier but we had some rain and I just sprayed the seedlings again Monday with gly. I hate pigweed, it must have ten thousand seeds per weed !
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Old 09-23-2022, 06:07 PM   #33
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I disced everything, it was a dust bowl. Gonna wait on rain in the forecast until we plant. May wait til the second weekend of Oct
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Old 09-24-2022, 10:44 PM   #34
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Plots will be planted on Monday. Should get a little rain by next weekend. My only worry is hogs n the plot, but with acorns on the ground, maybe not.
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Old 09-25-2022, 06:39 PM   #35
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Old 09-26-2022, 07:30 AM   #36
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I planted Newton co this weekend. Tilled it in in. I think we should be good that Far East. Iím going to wait a while before I plant in trinity and Houston co


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Planted two small plots with clover and chickory on the 17th and the 24th. Rather than wait for rain, I've been spraying the seedbeds with water at night using the sprayer on the utv. Nothing up yet but we'll see.
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Check out ďBuck BusterĒ blend . A regular and premium blend are available, both are very good and handle browse pressure very well. Dress it over with Winter Wheat.
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Plowed and planted today. Tilled or pressed the seed into the dirt, just need rain
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Old 09-27-2022, 10:08 AM   #40
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East Texas Seed Company NRCS Soil Health Blend

Anyone have any experience with this blend from East Texas Seed company? I spoke with Andy and Chandler down there a while back about it. Seems like its geared as a cover crop but could definitely be beneficial as a food plot mix. Not sure of percentages of the seeds though, but leaning toward this as my mix this fall if rain is ever forecasted again.
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Old 09-27-2022, 03:10 PM   #41
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Iím planting this East Texas Seed Blend this fall. Plan to add more Crimson Clover, Purple Top Turnips and Elbon Rye.
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