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Old 10-13-2021, 11:55 AM   #1
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My 06 Silverado has an issue with the engine. Pretty much could be anything from just new lifters or lifters and cam to engine rebuild. I should get report back in a day or two. So question is would you rather have a 5k engine in a 6k truck or a 50k or higher ne truck?

Regardless of the diagnosis im having the repairs done. Cant imagine a note on a new truck but that's just me. Probably lots of good justification for a new truck as well
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:01 PM   #2
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$5k engine. When my Tundra finally craps out I will repower and keep rolling. It’s been paid off for 7 years now, 2010 model.
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:20 PM   #3
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My 2019 is half the truck my 05 is.

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How many miles are on it ? I have an '06 Z71, with 240,000, still running strong.
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:23 PM   #5
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How many miles are on it ? I have an '06 Z71, with 240,000, still running strong.
5.3 with 240k. I am hoping its just the lifters and a valve. The #2 cylinder started misfiring halfway to Nacogdoches last friday. Shop out there is looking at it today
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:27 PM   #6
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repower. I have an 08' Silverado with 330K on it. had transmission rebuilt at 204K
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Depends if your a status symbol guy like most. Needs those new truck payments with an F250, driving in the city on a 5-7 year note. Ill pass

Mine been paid off for 4 years.
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Old 10-13-2021, 12:55 PM   #8
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Stick a GM rebuilt crate engine in it. They used to carry a warranty at any dealership if they were installed by an ASE certified tech.
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Crate GM Vortec Gen III 5.3L without VVT and all new coil paks.
Good for another 200K +

For a little more pulling power an LQ4 6.0L will bolt right in.
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:07 PM   #10
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New engine. I have a 2012 F250, and I plan to go that route. Granted it's a diesel, but same concept.

How strong is your transmission? Worth considering replacement if you have the motor out at the same time.
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:15 PM   #11
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Paid off? Get rid of the electronics and put an old school 350 in it- something that is dependable and easy to work on! With the way things are going in this day and time think simple ! Get a spare alternator, starter, hoses belts , water pump and carb and store them in a ( for now) climate controlled environment! That may be too much to think about lol so if it were me I would get a nice crate motor, shove it in there and drive on ;-)

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Old 10-13-2021, 01:25 PM   #12
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Crate GM Vortec Gen III 5.3L without VVT and all new coil paks.
Good for another 200K +

For a little more pulling power an LQ4 6.0L will bolt right in.
If i end up needing a new engine ill mention these options...I'd like a tad more power.
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:26 PM   #13
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New engine. I have a 2012 F250, and I plan to go that route. Granted it's a diesel, but same concept.

How strong is your transmission? Worth considering replacement if you have the motor out at the same time.
Trans seems fine but with my luck it will need rebuilt a week after this deal is done
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:31 PM   #14
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fix her upper here too........I dont do payments.......of course your mileage may vary
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:50 PM   #15
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My 06 Silverado has an issue with the engine. Pretty much could be anything from just new lifters or lifters and cam to engine rebuild. I should get report back in a day or two. So question is would you rather have a 5k engine in a 6k truck or a 50k or higher ne truck?

Regardless of the diagnosis im having the repairs done. Cant imagine a note on a new truck but that's just me. Probably lots of good justification for a new truck as well
Everyone hates truck or car notes. I know I do but with that said, my 2013 Ram 1500 had the same issue at 195000 miles and I opted to pay for the rebuild. About 4500 to replace lifters and cam. That was 2 years ago. This past February it happened again so I opted to just bite the bullet on a new truck. Iím glad I did it then cause truck prices got insane a few months later.
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Old 10-13-2021, 02:14 PM   #16
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used with 100K are around $2000.00

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Old 10-13-2021, 02:15 PM   #17
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I drive a '94 Chevy with 310,000 mi on it and I'm pretty sure when it craps out I'm going to put a new engine in it. New ones are unbelievably expensive and even decent used ones are 10 or 15 grand with no warranty so might as well put an engine in my old crapper
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Old 10-13-2021, 02:24 PM   #18
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I totally understand the guys trying to squeeze several hundred thousand miles out of a truck and replacing engines when the time comes. With that said, that's never been me except when I was young and didn't have a choice. Not really interested in keeping up with the Jones or the status symbol thing but do enjoy having a new truck with bells and whistles as I'm in it a lot. I drive about 40k+ per year on average and I'm a pretty busy guy so I don't have time to waste on lengthy repairs or breakdowns. The joke around my family is that Josh must have needed new tires because he got another truck. I am on my 4th new truck since 2017 now lol. My name is Josh and I have a problem.... I don't do the crazy high notes with lengthy terms though. I put a lot down and generally pay them off quick.
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Old 10-13-2021, 02:26 PM   #19
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I'd rather avoid a car payment any chance I get.

Currently have a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee w/ 5.7L Hemi and 247k miles. Rebuilt transmission 5k miles ago. Haven't opened up the motor yet and still running strong.

Previously had a 2000 Suburban LS w/ 5.3L and 320k miles on it. Rebuilt that trans twice, before I finally sold it on. Still miss that truck!
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Old 10-13-2021, 02:34 PM   #20
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Yeah, I completely understand getting a new truck for some people if they want it. The reason I don't is I use mine for ranch work all the time and I'd hate to spend 15 or 20 grand on a nice used truck just to beat the dog crap out of it. That's one of the main reasons I just keep fixing my old junker. My wife has the nicer pickup that we use to drive around town and such LOL
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Old 10-13-2021, 04:34 PM   #21
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Repowering is easily the best option from a monetary standpoint. If you don't care about all the new technology in the new trucks, then just repower.

Some of the newer features are things like -

- USB ports and touch pads for I-phone charging;
- Bluetooth connectivity
- Touch screen displays
- Apple car play
- front/rear cameras
- more safety features like blind spot monitoring, cross traffic alerts, side curtain airbags, etc.
- LED headlight options

If you are just an AM/FM radio kind of guy, most if not all of that stuff won't matter. Or if you've never had it before, you won't miss it.

To be honest, my wife's Lexus has all of this stuff and I don't care about most of it.
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Old 10-13-2021, 05:28 PM   #22
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If you still like the truck and everything else is in good enough shape for you to justify keeping it, I'd rebuild and keep rolling. Trucks keep getting more gadgets put on them, and keep getting more expensive. At some point it just doesn't make sense financially to get a new one and pay for all the stuff everyone HAS to have if you don't have a use for it. But that's just the opinion of a guy who would be happy with rubber floors, a 350, and a 4 speed, you know, a truck, not a luxo-barge.
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Old 10-13-2021, 05:53 PM   #23
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I’ve got an 01’ dura flop that my dad had this mentality on. 235k and still going. Only $80k in repairs over 20 years….. could have bought several work truck packages for that

Have an 05’ as well I’ve already replaced about every major … and minor component on it

Both look fine but the interiors are just falling apart…. Cause they are 16 years old….and they are made of plastic

I’m opposite I guess I’ll pay a payment for the piece of mind and dependability IF it’s my daily driver and what I make my living with
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:34 PM   #24
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I have a new truck. It’s a piece of crap
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Old 10-13-2021, 09:43 PM   #25
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I totally understand the guys trying to squeeze several hundred thousand miles out of a truck and replacing engines when the time comes. With that said, that's never been me except when I was young and didn't have a choice. Not really interested in keeping up with the Jones or the status symbol thing but do enjoy having a new truck with bells and whistles as I'm in it a lot. I drive about 40k+ per year on average and I'm a pretty busy guy so I don't have time to waste on lengthy repairs or breakdowns. The joke around my family is that Josh must have needed new tires because he got another truck. I am on my 4th new truck since 2017 now lol. My name is Josh and I have a problem.... I don't do the crazy high notes with lengthy terms though. I put a lot down and generally pay them off quick.
Iím kinda in this situation too I run the roads and pull a lot of heavy loads so I like having the relative peace of mind of a newer vehicle.I do pass my trucks along to the crews when Iím done with them so they start getting patched up a bit but they donít put many miles on them around town.
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A piece of crap that spends more time in shop than on the road. Usually drives a dealer loaner.
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I'm a 10 year guy. I get a new truck about every 10 years. But I don't put alot of miles on it as I also have a company truck. So at 10 years I'm usually just getting to the point of needing repairs. Just sold my 2012 F350 for a 2022 F350. I also don't do big notes for years and years. Pay cash or close to it and what amount I do finance I pay off in less than 2 years.
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Should be about 2500 to fix if they have to replace the cam. Hydraulic lifters in those. They have the gas saver trash where it cuts out certain cylinders. Causes the problem with the lifters.
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Thought I’d bring this back up with more info.
It ended up needing a new engine. I had a new one installed with a 3 year 100k warranty for 6k. While this was going on I was driving a truck my father in law bought from another family member. It is an 04 Silverado with the 5.3 ( exactly the same as mine ) it has 230k miles( about the same as mine ) and guess what? Driving home from work the oil pressure completely disappeared. I shut it down immediately and have it towed to a shop. They said new engine but I can’t imagine that because it sounds perfectly fine when running. Anyway, apparently if you get 250k out of these 5.3 considered yourself lucky. I hear they last forever but I have had two take a dump in a month. The irony is it’s the first truck I have ever really taken care of.
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used with 100K are around $2000.00

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At 350K my Tundra needed head work. I found a Tundra with 100K in a yard in Dallas. Bought the engine, transmission, transfer case, etc - etc.

Had it removed and replaced as 1 piece. Easy peasey.

Cost a bit under 4K......
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Thought Iíd bring this back up with more info.
It ended up needing a new engine. I had a new one installed with a 3 year 100k warranty for 6k. While this was going on I was driving a truck my father in law bought from another family member. It is an 04 Silverado with the 5.3 ( exactly the same as mine ) it has 230k miles( about the same as mine ) and guess what? Driving home from work the oil pressure completely disappeared. I shut it down immediately and have it towed to a shop. They said new engine but I canít imagine that because it sounds perfectly fine when running. Anyway, apparently if you get 250k out of these 5.3 considered yourself lucky. I hear they last forever but I have had two take a dump in a month. The irony is itís the first truck I have ever really taken care of.

I have a 2003 with 185,000 on it. About 2 months ago while pulling my travel trailer to the lease I lost my oil pressure. Thereís a local mechanic I know that knows everything there is to know about these motors so I called him. First thing he said was ďit needs an o-ring on the pick up tube for the oil pumpĒ. I took it to him and he fixed it. Itís a very common issue on that motor. While he had it apart I told him to put a new oil pump too. Iíve had great pressure ever since.
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Should be about 2500 to fix if they have to replace the cam. Hydraulic lifters in those. They have the gas saver trash where it cuts out certain cylinders. Causes the problem with the lifters.

Iím pretty sure they started the gas saver stuff in 2007.


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Old 11-20-2021, 09:58 AM   #34
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Thought Iíd bring this back up with more info.
It ended up needing a new engine. I had a new one installed with a 3 year 100k warranty for 6k. While this was going on I was driving a truck my father in law bought from another family member. It is an 04 Silverado with the 5.3 ( exactly the same as mine ) it has 230k miles( about the same as mine ) and guess what? Driving home from work the oil pressure completely disappeared. I shut it down immediately and have it towed to a shop. They said new engine but I canít imagine that because it sounds perfectly fine when running. Anyway, apparently if you get 250k out of these 5.3 considered yourself lucky. I hear they last forever but I have had two take a dump in a month. The irony is itís the first truck I have ever really taken care of.

Oil pressure sending unit most likely. Iíve fixed 6-7 of them. The screen under it can get clogged also.


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Old 11-20-2021, 10:08 AM   #35
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I’m fairly certain on my FIL’s truck it’s just the oil pump. I’m picking it up from the shop who told me new engine on Monday and taking it back to Nacogdoches for his mechanics to look at it.
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Those year models had an issue on start up the lifters would rattle. Caused by the oil pickup tube o ring not sealing off. I would recommend to ensure at minimum they replace that Oring with whatever repairs they quote you. If you go cam and lifters. I'd put a new oil pump on as well. While the cylinder heads are off. Send them out for a valve job and resurface the deck. While the intake is off. Have them put new Knock sensors and harness in. Cheap. And make sure they seal the rubber boots off to the knock sensor harness. Since the cam is out. Make sure they put a new chain and gears on. 240k miles isn't much at all on those engines.
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Old 11-20-2021, 10:25 AM   #37
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I have a 2003 with 185,000 on it. About 2 months ago while pulling my travel trailer to the lease I lost my oil pressure. Thereís a local mechanic I know that knows everything there is to know about these motors so I called him. First thing he said was ďit needs an o-ring on the pick up tube for the oil pumpĒ. I took it to him and he fixed it. Itís a very common issue on that motor. While he had it apart I told him to put a new oil pump too. Iíve had great pressure ever since.
Very common.
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Old 11-20-2021, 10:43 AM   #38
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My 2004 Z71 5.3L that I handed down to my son is still going and had 335k on it currently. It does appear to have developed a lifter tick recently but otherwise itís still running great.

Iíve had half a dozen oil pressure sensors on it but they do just the opposite, they peg out at 80psi and never move.


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Spend 5k and still be able to eat. Truck prices are insane. Iím hoping my 2000 F250 7.3 with 316000 miles hauls me to the cemetery in about 20 years. Itís all about priorities.


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Lol! I don’t care what anyone else says. You are correct!
How manufacturers can’t make a trouble free truck these days is ridiculous.
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5.3 with 240k. I am hoping its just the lifters and a valve. The #2 cylinder started misfiring halfway to Nacogdoches last friday. Shop out there is looking at it today
Might be as simple as coil pac on #2 or injector or spark plug on #2
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Old 11-22-2021, 04:49 PM   #42
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My 2004 Z71 5.3L that I handed down to my son is still going and had 335k on it currently. It does appear to have developed a lifter tick recently but otherwise itís still running great.

Iíve had half a dozen oil pressure sensors on it but they do just the opposite, they peg out at 80psi and never move.


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I picked up my father is laws truck from the shop today to trailer it back to ETX. When I dropped it off it was pegged at 0 psi drove it on the trailer and it was pegged at 80. Got home and let it run for 30 min and never left 80.
That shop wanted me to put an engine in it for $10000. I am putting a new oil pressure sensor tomorrow and see what happens.
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Old 11-22-2021, 05:00 PM   #43
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I had the same issue on an '04 I had with 200k miles. Noticed the oil pressure was lower then usual for a few weeks then just no pressure at all with no previous issues. About 50k miles later the oil pump did go out that I got replaced. Sold it with 290k miles on it 6 years ago and its still a running ranch truck. I would def get a second opinion on the 'new engine' if you weren't noticing any previous issues.
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Old 11-22-2021, 05:04 PM   #44
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I vote new truck. Not because I like to spend the money or have a note, but once you go down the fixing route, it begins to be a giant time waster. I flat out just don't have the time for that crap, so new it is for me. I have to be able to get out to customers/vendors, and don't have days/weeks/months it takes now days to get it fixed. Sucks but the repair shops nowadays are really slow IMO for various reasons.
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If the oil pressure dropped to 0 and now is 80, I suggest you drain your oil and reach in the oil pan with a stiff wire with end hooked and see what you pull out.
I had a Dodge truck do that and it was a bad FRAM oil filter that came apart and when you ran the engine for awhile the pump would pick up the lining of the filter and stop oil flow. You could let it sit for 5-10 minutes and the lining would fall back into the pan and let oil flow again.
I did some head scratching to figure it out but all it costed me was a new filter and some aggravation of pulling the pieces out of the pan.


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Old 11-22-2021, 10:30 PM   #46
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I was in the same boat as you. My half ton started having issues and I fixed them and fixed them. It became a money pit. I sold it. My one ton was a 99superduty with the 7.3. I sold it at 254,000 + miles, this year. I was about to start dropping major cash on rebuilding it. I thought it was good until I drove my sons 17 3/4 ton with the 6.7 diesel. My god the difference was amazing. The 17 is a beast. The interior has everything you want and more. It pulls my 35th 5th wheel and doesn’t struggle. Momma likes it. It was hard for me to let go but man I’m happy, happy, happy. Yes I have a note, but I’m not fretting about it.

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