Originally posted by imyomama
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Running a 300 blk at 16” with a 110 grain high dollar Barnes is 2350-2400 FPS. Which is a known not reliable Bullet for expansion at those speeds.
Run a 243 with a basic 100 grain soft point gets you 2450ish just starting out.
That 300 blk burns most if not all of its powder in 9” of barrel. Hence its design. Obviously different powder can alter these results. However, you won’t get lighter than a 110 grain projectile.
For the 243 it has a MUCH larger case capacity and the option to launch projectiles far lower in weight at higher velocities to enhance terminal performance. So let’s swap to an 80 grain bullet and go off forum data that you like. 2800 FPS. Ahhhh there we go! And the MFer will expand as designed!
Now get to reloading them. Move to a stiff charge and the speeds increase. You only have so much case capacity in each. 243 is DOUBLE the case capacity. Again, per your beloved forum data.
We aren’t talking about shooting one hog in the head standing still. A 22 will work for that. I’m talking about 5+ hogs dead per shooter per ground of hogs engaged. The blackout will show you how weak it is right then and there.
The blackout was built to shoot people. Not animals. 9” barrel ultra quiet with subs while a man with a badge or stripes kicks a door down.
Is 16” getting the most out of a 243? Heck no. Luckily I have a ton of other options. To say it sucks and compare it to a 300 blk is laughable. You don’t compare two calibers but choosing the highest weight grain in one and the lightest in the other. Compare sectional density and BC too….
That 80 grain 6mm pill at 2800(way faster with handloads) hits MUCH harder than the 110 30 cal pill at 2400. AND it actually has excellent terminal performance!
Are there better calibers? Yes. With trade offs. I’ve got a 16” 6 creed in the works. A 22” 6 creed. And a 26” 6 creed. No longer have the 243. But plenty of 6mm options. Not even getting into the 22 cal, 30 cal, 284s etc. Options. A fella has options.
But to alter data in your favor can be easily manipulated. Run your 243Ai with lighter pills at 16” and you’d probably be quite pleased at the performance you still have. Ideal? No. But there’s other options. Carrying a suppressed 24”+ barrelled gun plus a thermal and an 8 lb tripod miles in a night sucks. Lose the weight where you can while keeping the most performance.
FYI the buddy rubi and raider are telling you about kills more hogs in a year with a 16” 243 AR10 than you likely will in 10 years. They kill a LOT of hogs. He’s tried all kinds of calibers in different combos. Big reason he’s still shooting it. Thousands and thousands of hogs….
Only reason I bought that 243 was it was a deal. If it didn’t perform I planned on swapping barrels. Easy fix. But it performed just fine. My original point in my original comment was that if a 16” 243 is(and it easily is) hearing safe, then nearly anything else the OP runs will be as well.
You chose to run your mouth like you always do. Now go look at how many people bash the 300 blk. Then go look at how many bash a 243. Wonder why? I know why. And I just stated it.
Do I know everything? Am I the best shooter in the world? Absolutely not. To both. But I have been very fortunate to own and play with a very large variety of guns and in gear in many varieties and see what works. And also what doesn’t. I’ve always got more to learn. And I’m open to suggestions and learning. But **** sure not from folks that act like you!
it’s all opinion
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