Jo Jorgensen

[Jason Fry]

So Libertarians went with Jo Jorgensen as their candidate.

https://joj2020.com/about-jo-jorgensen/

First thoughts... Educated in Texas at Baylor and SMU. PhD in I/O Psych. Those are good. Better than New York and Delaware options.

Stands no chance at all of winning a state, IMO, but will get my vote.

[Bayouboy]

Wasted vote.

[BowhunterB]

That is my thought as well. While I understand the ethical idea of voting for who you think is the best candidate, I don't understand voting for someone whom you think has no chance an giving a chance to someone whom you might really not want to win.

[OldRiverRat]

I’ll never understand, especially at a time when we are literally seeing our country being transformed, why you wouldn’t vote for someone that has a chance at winning and would help prevent the further degradation of our society.
Like it or not trump is the best option
If for no other reason I would vote for him just in hopes that the corruption in the justice department is gets fully exposed and rooted out. If he loses then the entire investigation gets shut down and the Democrats get away with an attempted coup Scott free which means they will try again if necessary in the future.


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[Traildust]

Might as well write my name in!

[Stuck]

It’s your vote. Cast it as how you see fit, but you might as well write yourself in, you have about as much chance of winning as she does.

Or Traildust apparently he would like the position.

[manwitaplan]

Let me guess:

“Fiscally conservative and socially liberal” Pro choice, anti war, pro weed, and let anyone do anything they want as long as it does not directly effect you!

Good for you Jason Fry!

Trump 2020.


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[SaltwaterSlick]

I’ll never understand, especially at a time when we are literally seeing our country being transformed, why you wouldn’t vote for someone that has a chance at winning and would help prevent the further degradation of our society.
Like it or not trump is the best option
If for no other reason I would vote for him just in hopes that the corruption in the justice department is gets fully exposed and rooted out. If he loses then the entire investigation gets shut down and the Democrats get away with an attempted coup Scott free which means they will try again if necessary in the future.

Very well said Rat!
I'll add that I had that attitude last time around. Did not want to vote for Trump... Would not vote for Hillary... had decided not to vote at all, but then thanks to some very well spoken folks on here, I realized that indeed my vote counts just as much as anyone else's, so I reluctantly voted for Trump. To this day, I despise the man as a person, but I love him as my President. He was and is exactly what this country needs and needed. He did not need this job. He had everything in life he ever needed (other than the bragging rights to be able to say he was the most powerful man in the world)... I think he ran simply for 2 reasons, 1. for his ego, and 2. because he truly does love this country and thought he could have a positive influence on steering it from the brink of destruction...



I really do not care which order of reasons he ran. He's done a good job overall, and for dang sure better than Hitlery. And will continue to do so, I think if re-elected for 4 more years. He won't have to be worrying about getting re-elected. He can really take the gloves off. Further, IF he can bring enough other successful Repulsican candidates with him that the DemoKrauts lose the House and the Repulsicans gain a super-majority in the Senate, it could be a really historic 4 years in the life of our country and its future. Yea, I'd go vote if I were you for the candidate that you think can best help this country and has a chance of winning the election...

[Playa]

We are going to be stuck with the same crappy candidates until we are willing to vote outside of it. I can’t remember an election where I voted FOR a candidate rather than against the opposing candidate

But this is also how we got 8 yrs of Clinton, so there’s that....

****ed if we do, ****ed if we dont

[Bazo]

Very well said Rat!
I'll add that I had that attitude last time around. Did not want to vote for Trump... Would not vote for Hillary... had decided not to vote at all, but then thanks to some very well spoken folks on here, I realized that indeed my vote counts just as much as anyone else's, so I reluctantly voted for Trump. To this day, I despise the man as a person, but I love him as my President. He was and is exactly what this country needs and needed. He did not need this job. He had everything in life he ever needed (other than the bragging rights to be able to say he was the most powerful man in the world)... I think he ran simply for 2 reasons, 1. for his ego, and 2. because he truly does love this country and thought he could have a positive influence on steering it from the brink of destruction...



I really do not care which order of reasons he ran. He's done a good job overall, and for dang sure better than Hitlery. And will continue to do so, I think if re-elected for 4 more years. He won't have to be worrying about getting re-elected. He can really take the gloves off. Further, IF he can bring enough other successful Repulsican candidates with him that the DemoKrauts lose the House and the Repulsicans gain a super-majority in the Senate, it could be a really historic 4 years in the life of our country and its future. Yea, I'd go vote if I were you for the candidate that you think can best help this country and has a chance of winning the election...

I'll add to this. One more Supreme Court Justice. That's what everyone needs to be thinking about seeing how Roberts is showing more and more who he is.

[Jason Fry]

We are going to be stuck with the same crappy candidates until we are willing to vote outside of it. I can’t remember an election where I voted FOR a candidate rather than against the opposing candidate

But this is also how we got 8 yrs of Clinton, so there’s that....

****ed if we do, ****ed if we dont

Exactly. My county will go 65% Trump regardless of what I vote. We've got to vote for somebody else, or we'll continue to be stuck with Red losers or Blue losers. Here are the 2016 results:

100% Reporting

R D. Trump
66.9% 65,566

D H. Clinton
28.5% 27,956

L G. Johnson
4.0% 3,908

G J. Stein
0.6% 630

I'm with you Playa, can't recall the last time I voted FOR someone. GWB maybe.

[Mike D]

Exactly. My county will go 65% Trump regardless of what I vote. We've got to vote for somebody else, or we'll continue to be stuck with Red losers or Blue losers. Here are the 2016 results:

100% Reporting

R D. Trump
66.9% 65,566

D H. Clinton
28.5% 27,956

L G. Johnson
4.0% 3,908

G J. Stein
0.6% 630

I'm with you Playa, can't recall the last time I voted FOR someone. GWB maybe.

That’s great for your county, but the large blue metro counties will soon outnumber the rural red ones. So then what?


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[double bogey]

With our state drifting blue, you have to look at the big picture. While Trump should win here, we don't need to help him lose. If enough people say "my vote wont matter", we could end up with a demented pervert with oldtimers disease in the white house. Depending on who is selected for vice president, this becomes a much bigger deal. Hilliary or big Mike as vp changes everything.
Look at it as a vote against socialism and hopefully 4 years of draining the swamp with the gloves off. Hopefully we will have a good start before the election as the AG and senate cases open up. We need to out the democratic party for what it really is. The republicans are not perfect, but for the future of our country, there is no way i could vote for anyone but Trump this fall.
And then we need to be grooming his replacement for 2024, because like cancer, they will keep coming back.

[Razrbk89]

Telling someone that their vote is wasted is just a really lame attempt to silence that person and let them know that you don't value their opinion.

[SabineHunter]

So Libertarians went with Jo Jorgensen as their candidate.

https://joj2020.com/about-jo-jorgensen/

First thoughts... Educated in Texas at Baylor and SMU. PhD in I/O Psych. Those are good. Better than New York and Delaware options.

Stands no chance at all of winning a state, IMO, but will get my vote.

Abortion is a 'huge' issue and it isn't even mentioned in this link. Why? Tells me she is afraid to state her view on abortion because she will lose many, many votes. So, Jason, where does she stand on this issue?