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Old 03-26-2021, 09:29 AM   #1
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Default Aluminum ILF recurves, Talk some sense into me.

I made the mistake of shooting a Satori a while back and it has haunted me ever since. I really like the feel of the more slender grip and overall feel compared to wooden risers. I am also on a budget at least a cash in hand budget. The issue I am having is the amount of 17-19" risers out there. Tons of Chinese stuff with prices all over the place. I am looking at risers and limbs for the build myself route. I have also been looking at the Samick Discovery and the Win and Win Black Elk. Both of these bows are hard to find in stock with the foam limbs. I have found a few Samicks with wood core limbs (50#) but It looks like they require some work to build up a strike plate for shelf shooting.

Is it possible to build up a bow for $400? And can any of y'all steer me in the right direction? Or should I just eat a little CC debt and get a Satori?

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Old 03-26-2021, 11:23 AM   #2
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EXE risers are well made. I have a 25" blizzard and it is a great riser for the price.
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Old 03-26-2021, 11:32 AM   #3
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I feel you on the stocking issues. I am waiting to pull the trigger on the W&W Black Wolf. Lancaster says they hope to have more in in 3-weeks.
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Old 03-26-2021, 11:42 AM   #4
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If you are just starting out as a new recurve shooter, I would recommend finding a less expensive set up than the Satori. You won't be out as much money if you find out you don't like it. The only problem is being able to try the bow out before purchasing, there are not a lot of brick and mortars that stock trad equipment. You won't know if you like a bow until you've shot it.

The aluminum riser shelf can be built up and out in numerous ways. Google, "building up a riser shelf", for some ideas.

An OMP Night Ridge can be had for less than $400. I shot one for a year, with a built up shelf. I had no complaints with the bow, I just didn't like the side plate build out, and decided to go with a wood riser, cut closer to center.

Don't let me talk you out of the Satori, if that's the bow you want.
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Old 03-26-2021, 12:07 PM   #5
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Thanks for the feedback. I have been shooting a Sarrels Ridgecat for a while. I did call Lancaster yesterday about back order times on the Win & Win and they couldn't get me a good timeline. Amazon has risers listed but they are all over the place price wise and there is little info on them to be found online.
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^^^^^^I'm shooting a Ridgecat as well and prefer it over the OMP.^^^^^^
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Old 03-26-2021, 01:05 PM   #7
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I just found The OMP Night Ridge in 50# for $279.00 from Bowhunting Outlet. Seemed to good to pass up for the price and the favorable reviews I found online. Thanks for the suggestion TXRebel.
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^^^^^Your Welcome! Hope you like it and I didn't guide you wrong.^^^^^^^
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Old 03-26-2021, 01:18 PM   #9
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^^^^^Your Welcome! Hope you like it and I didn't guide you wrong.^^^^^^^
At that price the riser should do what I'm looking for. Limbs seem to make all difference so I can play around from there.

Thanks again,
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Old 03-27-2021, 05:33 AM   #10
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I have a couple of Buffalo risers that I rigged out with carbon foam limbs on the cheap. Less than $400 in both of them. I found the limbs in the FITA classifieds on Archerytalk.com. Like new for $150 to $175. I still want to find an ILF riser so I can spend some more of my money on ILF limbs that come up at bargain prices. I've had the Satori already and did not really care for it. I'm looking hard at the Samick Discovery and just yesterday saw the Farmington Atlas 19" riser at 3Rivers Archery. The Atlas also has an option for the brass weight, if you think that it is necessary. I actually prefer the look of the Atlas over the Discovery.
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Old 03-27-2021, 07:54 AM   #11
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I have a pair of Win&Win Trad tech limbs I知 not shooting. 50# shorts. $100 These are the lower end wood limbs.

I also have a pair of foam carbon I知 not shooting. 55# shorts. $400



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Old 03-27-2021, 09:53 AM   #12
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Bow should be here on Wednesday. 19 inch riser with medium limbs. 60 AMO, which I'm assuming will make it stack up quick. Looking forward to playing around with all the different options available with these kinds of set ups. I'll probably work on getting up to a 62-64 inch length soon.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:59 AM   #13
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Good luck on the setup Stoof.
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Old 03-27-2021, 02:30 PM   #14
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Bow should be here on Wednesday. 19 inch riser with medium limbs. 60 AMO, which I'm assuming will make it stack up quick. Looking forward to playing around with all the different options available with these kinds of set ups. I'll probably work on getting up to a 62-64 inch length soon.
My chart says 62".

Enjoy. I got a inexpensive 66" target type bow a couple of weeks ago.
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Old 03-27-2021, 06:24 PM   #15
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My chart says 62".

Enjoy. I got a inexpensive 66" target type bow a couple of weeks ago.

I知 still confused. Still a wheel bow guy. But I feel the dark side creeping in.
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Old 03-27-2021, 06:30 PM   #16
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I知 still confused. Still a wheel bow guy. But I feel the dark side creeping in.


You have it all backwards! You are in the dark side now. Come to the light!!!!!

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Old 03-27-2021, 08:19 PM   #17
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I知 still confused. Still a wheel bow guy. But I feel the dark side creeping in.


Dark side? Light? whatever, I hear ya. I stopped bowhunting in early 2000's. Won't go into the reasons..... A few years ago I got the itch to go bowhunt again and broke down and bought a Mission Riot. I shot it some, but the itch subsided and I never hunted with it.

The itch returned and I'm now 67 with a almost 20 year layoff. Used to shoot 55-58 lb longbows and recurves. They may as well be 150 lbs now, so I ordered a 28lb 66" target type bow to start flinging arrows again. 25" riser with short limbs. Have a short draw so it's like 25 lbs.
Good luck on entering the "shining".
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Old 03-28-2021, 06:11 PM   #18
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Question on set up. No positive tiller on these bows really? Equal from the top and and bottom the fiddle from there?
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Old 03-28-2021, 08:25 PM   #19
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Question on set up. No positive tiller on these bows really? Equal from the top and and bottom the fiddle from there?
they are like any other bow, they will need tiller for your style of shooting: normal is a little positive tiller.

From what I've read, that is one of the pro's of ilf, people can dial in the tiller required.
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Old 03-29-2021, 12:27 PM   #20
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Question on set up. No positive tiller on these bows really? Equal from the top and and bottom the fiddle from there?
Tiller depends on whether you're shooting split finger, 3-under, or crawling. Split shooters like positive tiller, even tiller for 3-under, and negative tiller for anything more than a short crawl.
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