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Old 05-28-2020, 05:25 PM   #1
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I planted some WGF sorghum and browntop millet. It will have alot of weeds in the plot.

When it gets close to the dove opener I think just mowing it would just bury the seeds under all the leaves and stalks. I know they don't like alot of trash on the ground to feed.

I've heard of guys burning the plot to get rid of the "trash" and it will leave the seed on bare ground. Not sure I want to burn it ...but maybe discing a strip next to the plot and then mowing it high will leave a bunch of seeds on bare ground.

What do you guys do to prep it for hunting so the doves can find the seeds?
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Old 05-28-2020, 08:28 PM   #2
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With brown too. I cut it with a hay mower and left it there.... extra. And baled it. There where seeds everywhere and bare ground. I quit using brown top because it was too much work vs other alternative plants. But the dove loved it, once you make it where they can access it
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Old 05-28-2020, 09:09 PM   #3
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I've burned brown top millet fields with good luck.
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Old 05-28-2020, 10:37 PM   #4
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I've burned brown top millet fields with good luck.
Thanks. Did you mow them first or burn them standing?
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Old 05-28-2020, 10:38 PM   #5
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With brown too. I cut it with a hay mower and left it there.... extra. And baled it. There where seeds everywhere and bare ground. I quit using brown top because it was too much work vs other alternative plants. But the dove loved it, once you make it where they can access it
Good to know...thanks.
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Old 05-29-2020, 11:24 AM   #6
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Thanks. Did you mow them first or burn them standing?
Imowed them first with bush hog. Not sure that was necessary though
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Old 05-29-2020, 11:40 AM   #7
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Is it legal to plant these grain producing plants for a dove hunting field?

The real question is, is it legal to hunt these fields?
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Old 05-29-2020, 01:41 PM   #8
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Is it legal to plant these grain producing plants for a dove hunting field?

The real question is, is it legal to hunt these fields?
Hunting over a field or food plot that has been manipulated by shredding, burning or windrowing is legal for dove
hunting but not for waterfowl. For doves, you can do anything to the crop except harvest and redistribute it onto the
same field.

Pg. 7 from below:

https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/...ment_texas.pdf
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Old 05-29-2020, 08:50 PM   #9
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Hunting over a field or food plot that has been manipulated by shredding, burning or windrowing is legal for dove
hunting but not for waterfowl. For doves, you can do anything to the crop except harvest and redistribute it onto the
same field.

Pg. 7 from below:

https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/...ment_texas.pdf
Thank you for this. I never planted any because I thought it was illegal. Things will be changing at the farm.

Thanks again
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Old 05-29-2020, 08:58 PM   #10
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I’d burn it standing or cut it and bale with an old wire baler. I have had insanely good hunts over both.
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Old 08-03-2020, 05:30 PM   #11
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Ok...got a decent stand of browntop millet (along with some Johnson Grass). We are 4 weeks out from the opener.....what should my steps be from here?

My county is in a burn ban so can't burn it.

Should I kill it with Gly and then shred and disc....or is spraying or discing necessary?

Some seeds are starting to shatter very easily from the stalk. I just want them to have as clean a seedbed as possible.

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Old 08-04-2020, 02:38 PM   #12
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OK just watched a cool video of a guy that mows his millet with his shredder. Then he comes back in with a zero-turn and mows it short in strips and it blows the fluff away and leaves all the seed exposed on pretty bare ground. He says he has tons of doves. Gonna try that.
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Old 08-04-2020, 02:44 PM   #13
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Please keep us posted with how it works - good luck!
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Old 08-05-2020, 12:54 PM   #14
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Let us know how you do please
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Old 08-15-2020, 09:30 AM   #15
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Mowing the millet plot after shredding it worked great. Tons of seeds exposed. Before and after.



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Old 03-30-2021, 09:44 PM   #16
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Bump for 2021.

I bought 8 lbs (1.5 acres) of native sunflowers and got them in the ground in early March. Wish I would have done it before snowmageddon hit to stratify those seeds....but it didn't happen. I also disced 4 more acres in December to hopefully release the existing native sunflower seed bank. Will also plant some peredoviks as well in May.

Also planting 20 lbs of Roundup Ready Corn in late April. Its 102 day corn so should be ready by mid August.
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Old 03-30-2021, 09:52 PM   #17
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How did your wgf sorghum do? I read that it continues to put up new tillers and seed heads through the growing season until frost. Did you find this to be correct on your planting? I was going to try wgf but I couldn't find any concep treated seed which prevents injury from preemergent sprayed at planting. I ended up going with a mix that contains 5 different grain sorghums and is treated with concep
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Old 03-31-2021, 08:00 AM   #18
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What mix did you get and where 243 wssm?
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Old 03-31-2021, 08:26 AM   #19
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We have a place that has never held to many birds, and we planted Kleingrass last year. Well it ended up being a mixture of Klein and Johnson Grass. Had it baled right before the opener, and the birds where all over it. Apparently gamebirds really love Klein seed, and you don't just have a food plot, you can cut it for hay. It seeds out like 3-4 times per year before winter, and is great habitat also. Deer love it's young and tender. Has lots of benefit for wildlife.

This plot was surrounded by milo fields, so they definitely preferred it. I think, they really like the clean cut ground, after it was baled, and there was a line of trees on the fields edge.

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Old 03-31-2021, 10:13 AM   #20
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Great thread

My brother just bought some land but they won't start building until next fall. He just finished his tank and is planning to plant something for dove season

What would you guys recommend?
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Old 03-31-2021, 10:19 AM   #21
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How did your wgf sorghum do? I read that it continues to put up new tillers and seed heads through the growing season until frost. Did you find this to be correct on your planting? I was going to try wgf but I couldn't find any concep treated seed which prevents injury from preemergent sprayed at planting. I ended up going with a mix that contains 5 different grain sorghums and is treated with concep
Cattle got in and ate it to the ground.
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Old 03-31-2021, 10:21 AM   #22
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We have a place that has never held to many birds, and we planted Kleingrass last year. Well it ended up being a mixture of Klein and Johnson Grass. Had it baled right before the opener, and the birds where all over it. Apparently gamebirds really love Klein seed, and you don't just have a food plot, you can cut it for hay. It seeds out like 3-4 times per year before winter, and is great habitat also. Deer love it's young and tender. Has lots of benefit for wildlife.

This plot was surrounded by milo fields, so they definitely preferred it. I think, they really like the clean cut ground, after it was baled, and there was a line of trees on the fields edge.
Interesting. I've seen doves flock to a fresh cut coastal bermuda hay field too that had seeded out.
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Old 03-31-2021, 11:31 AM   #23
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What mix did you get and where 243 wssm?
Pheasants Forever seed. Its pricey but it is treated seed and safe with preemergent. Plus free shipping and will plant 4-5 ac. It's called Covey Rise
https://www.pfhabitatstore.com/store...ey-Rise-25-bag
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Old 03-31-2021, 11:48 AM   #24
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I planted and prepared a great dove plot 3 years ago. It started out awesome and then all died with no rain. Sucked
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https://www.turnerseed.com/spring-dove-.html

They have Klein seed, and just about anything else you could ever want, and fast reasonable shipping. You can buy 1lb or 500lbs.

That link should go to there dove mix.
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I planted 2 acres of roundup ready corn and 2 acres of peredovik sunflowers this past weekend. I wish I would have gotten them in the ground a week earlier with all the good rain last week but it didn't work out.

Forecast shows a 90% chance tomorrow so hope it works out.



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I planted sorghum, browntop millet, and sunflowers yesterday. We had 4 inches of rain the week before and was surprised by how dry was already ..... Hope we get the rain they have in forecast!!
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uncle.... how have your corn plots done in the past with the hogs ?
I have tried soybeans and the hogs eat most the seed before it even gets going ....
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uncle.... how have your corn plots done in the past with the hogs ?
I have tried soybeans and the hogs eat most the seed before it even gets going ....
First year planting corn here....but believe it or not we don't have hogs. Been running trail cams for 2 years and never seen one.
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Lucky !
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