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Old 09-18-2020, 10:25 PM   #1
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I have one TC Encore in the rifle setup and one in the pistol set up. I have an Encore barrel in 7-08 that I want cut to 12" for pistol hunting. What pistol scope and rings are you guys using and who would you use to cut and thread the barrel?
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Old 09-18-2020, 10:30 PM   #2
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Leupold and Warne rings.
I would send it to bulberry to cut it. We have had real good luck
With serria game changers
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Old 09-18-2020, 10:43 PM   #3
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If the barrel goes on a frame that started out as a pistol, you’re ok, but if the frame was originally a rifle you’re essentially creating an SBR. Don’t know if you knew that stupid law but unless BATFE changed it that’s what it is.
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:19 AM   #4
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Leupold and Warne rings.
I would send it to bulberry to cut it. We have had real good luck
With serria game changers
Pretty sure Bullberry is no longer in business
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:28 AM   #5
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If the barrel goes on a frame that started out as a pistol, you’re ok, but if the frame was originally a rifle you’re essentially creating an SBR. Don’t know if you knew that stupid law but unless BATFE changed it that’s what it is.
That topic was put to bed years ago. Contrary to popular belief, the Encore frame can be changed back and forth from pistol to rifle and back again or rifle to pistol ect. The ATF has ruled on this and last time I heard there had been no arrests or prosecutions for that offense.

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Old 09-19-2020, 06:38 AM   #6
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Any Smith should be able to cut and crown it I would have to check but I believe the forearm screw spacing is different between rifle and pistol barrels
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:52 AM   #7
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Any Smith should be able to cut and crown it I would have to check but I believe the forearm screw spacing is different between rifle and pistol barrels
I didn't even think about that. May be better off just ordering a new pistol barrel so that there is no drilling and tapping for a forearm piece.
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Old 09-19-2020, 08:42 AM   #8
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I got a set of rings and scope in the classifieds for sale. Willing to work with you on. It has been a great scope on my .308 pistol.

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Old 09-19-2020, 09:10 AM   #9
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Pretty sure Bullberry is no longer in business
Great news for the TC aficionados, Fred sold the business to several of his employees. They are still building top quality barrels and performing custom work.

OP - call Troy at BB and discuss your project, he can hook you up

They may even have R&B in stock. I’d go with Leupold or Burris glass

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Old 09-19-2020, 09:36 AM   #10
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The scope I have for sale is a 2x7 Burris.

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Old 09-19-2020, 09:48 AM   #11
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Personally I think I'd just buy a pistol barrel. My 15" 7/08 encore is super accurate and fairly easy to handle in hunting situations. Mine has warne bases/rings and Burris glass and I have been very happy with it.
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Personally I think I'd just buy a pistol barrel
Yep, OP could sell the rifle barrel and apply funds towards purchase of a pistol barrel. Should be a minimal investment or possibly a wash. By posting WTT ads, he could likely find someone to trade barrels
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The scope I have for sale is a 2x7 Burris.

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I will take a look later today when I get home.
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Old 09-19-2020, 05:01 PM   #14
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I will take a look later today when I get home.
I wouldn't be opposed to a barrel swap with you either if you don't mind getting into a .308 barrel. It is pistol length with pistol holes for forearm. I am actually wanting to get into an sbr length rifle currently. Have 5 boxes winchester 150 ballistic tips and box and a half of federal fusion 150s that would go with it along with pistol stock set.

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Send the barrel to Morgan at class 3 machining. He only charges 60$ for a cut/thread.
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Old 09-19-2020, 10:59 PM   #16
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Any Smith should be able to cut and crown it I would have to check but I believe the forearm screw spacing is different between rifle and pistol barrels


Hmmmm, I have a 260 pistol barrel and pretty sure I was able to install a rifle
forearm on it.

EDIT: Yep. Here it is with the pistol forearm.



Here it is with the rifle forend installed.






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Old 09-20-2020, 07:53 AM   #17
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That's really nice Mike!
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Old 09-20-2020, 08:58 AM   #18
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[QUOTE=Mike D;15111739]Hmmmm, I have a 260 pistol barrel and pretty sure I was able to install a rifle
forearm on it

Hmmmm here is my 243 rifle and 30/06 pistol barrel I guess you could just install one screw


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Hmmmm, I have a 260 pistol barrel and pretty sure I was able to install a rifle
forearm on it

Hmmmm here is my 243 rifle and 30/06 pistol barrel I guess you could just install one screw


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Thanks for the pic. I could probably cut this rifle barrel down and still use the rifle length forearm. After all the input from you guys I have decided to sell one, maybe two, of my pistol barrels and buy a nice custom barrel. I was really set on 7-08 but after thinking on it I may go with 260 Rem. Still haven't decided.
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6.5 creedmoor has also
Been a good one in a pistol.
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6.5 creedmoor has also
Been a good one in a pistol.
Any idea what velocity a 140 gr bullet would get out of the pistol barrel? Or would you be better off with lighter bullets for the pistol hunts?
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Old 09-20-2020, 09:18 PM   #22
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I will ask my hunter that uses it. I know he has checked it. The game changer bullet has work extremely well.
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:47 PM   #23
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Match Grade Machine can build you whatever barrel you want, they can tap it for you and put bases and rings on it. Couple that they have done for me - 30 BR, and 460win mag
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Match Grade Machine can build you whatever barrel you want, they can tap it for you and put bases and rings on it. Couple that they have done for me - 30 BR, and 460win mag
Very nice. Who made the stock set for those?
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Any idea what velocity a 140 gr bullet would get out of the pistol barrel? Or would you be better off with lighter bullets for the pistol hunts?


I shoot 130 class bullets out of my pistol. Furthest Iíve killed with it so far is 155 yards.


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I’ll have to get the information for you he is out of South Carolina awesome guy he measures your hand and grip then builds the grip to fit.
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Any idea what velocity a 140 gr bullet would get out of the pistol barrel? Or would you be better off with lighter bullets for the pistol hunts?
I shoot a 7-30 Waters with 139gr at 2,250fps and Iím not close to a max load. Donít have the Hornady manual here but you should get at least 2,450 probably more with the 7mm-08.
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Old 09-23-2020, 08:49 AM   #28
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I shoot a 7-30 Waters with 139gr at 2,250fps and Iím not close to a max load. Donít have the Hornady manual here but you should get at least 2,450 probably more with the 7mm-08.
That should be plenty of medicine for any of the small west TX deer we hunt.
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Old 09-23-2020, 10:09 PM   #29
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I have used my TC Contender with 120gr Ballistic Tips at 2450fps on hill country deer from 10 yards to 225 yards without a problem. Since 1992 that waters barrel has had a 2-6 bushnell trophy that a couple years was still on like it has been for years.

For barrel cutting/crowning or threading https://www.facebook.com/barrelthreading Morgan is good to go. Good prices and work
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