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Old 09-20-2020, 11:41 AM   #201
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How's this for 'respect of norms'...heads are exploding & I love it.


Pelosi won't rule out using impeachment as option to stop Trump Supreme Court pick

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Im curious when God is going to strike Pelosi down. She is an evil, evil human being.
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How's this for 'respect of norms'...heads are exploding & I love it.


Pelosi won't rule out using impeachment as option to stop Trump Supreme Court pick

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pel...eme-court-pick
It's a civil war, clear and present danger.
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It's a civil war, clear and present danger.
Those dems are the greatest threat to this country and are complete disgraces to everything this country Is about
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What if God is giving the opportunity for people that say they fear Him to stand up and save millions of babies lives, repent, and change our ways.


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The risk of going into the election with only 8 justices on the Supreme Court is too great. Trump could win every state, and the Dems are going to contest the results in court. The people who won't vote for Trump or an incumbent Republican Senator because they filled a vacant seat on the SC before an election are the same people who aren't going to vote for Trump or an incumbent Republican Senator anyway. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth on the left, but who cares? Trump needs to make the nomination first thing Monday morning, and then the Senate Republicans need to get the nominee confirmed ASAP. The election is VERY important. But the results of that can be reversed in 2 and 4 years. The Supreme Court seat is a much longer term and more important deal, and it also has huge implications on this year's presidential election.

Fill the seat.

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Unless you believe neither party will ever control all 3 branches ever again, confirming a new justice before the election, or in the lame duck *if* the senate majority or white house changes hands is extremely short sighted on several levels.
It seems like a lot of people think the "lifetime appointment" of justices is not just yet another aspect of our governmental system that relies on norms to stay in place. Justices are still accountable to the majority will of both branches of Congress they can be impeached. Additionally it really doesnít matter how many justices have been appointed, since Congress also gets to set the number that make up the supreme court, the court can be packed. The only thing that stops these things from happening is the respect of the norms, concerns of institutional legitimacy, and that knowledge that at some point the other party may be in power in these norms and institutions will protect us. Once it has been shown that now the normal mode of operation is to grab as much power as possible and then entrench it as permanently as you can, thereís no reason to do anything other than as soon as you have control of all three branches immediately make systemic changes to lock that control in. If the Republicans go forward in this fashion, as soon as the Democrats control all three branches, which could be as soon as Jan 2021, they would be foolish to not do three things immediately
1) revoke the filibuster
2) pack the court to say 15 justices or if itís easier simply impeach the last two
3) make DC in Puerto Rico states, which is a bit more of a lift but very doable

All of which is legal if you have the votes. The only thing that stops this from occurring is a sense of political backlash from such a naked power grab, which will be much less of a issue if a justice has been appointed in lame duck or before the election.
Additionally, if you actually value the standing of the United States and the stability of our institutions this may be the straw that breaks breaks the camels back in the long term. None of this will stop here, it will accelerate. The risk is far too high to go down this path for something that isnít actually permanent anyway.
If the White House and the Senate majority stays after the election then they can do what they want, confirm Amy Barret, and itíll all be within reasonable bounds.


Unless you havenít been paying attention rules of decorum went out the windows a long time ago starting with Harry Ried if not before.


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Old 09-20-2020, 01:37 PM   #208
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I think he missed the entire 8 years of Obama and apparently has not heard a work spoken by any democrat in the last 20 years
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............. I was reared in the Catholic church. ..............
So was I.

You're confusing the Catholic Church and Catholics as one in the same. The Catholic Church is problematic, not Catholics. She's already stated she believes in upholding the powers of separation of church and state. She's working for the Constitution, not the Catholic Church.

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It's sorta delusional to think the dems are going to play nice in the future if we were to wait till after the election...we ALL KNOW what hand the dems would be playing right now if they had the senate & the witch had won in 16.

I think everything you state is already in their playbook & it's WAY past time to be the only side that plays fair...they have been lying & cheating on this admin the day he took office. It's time to take the gloves off, put on the brass knuckles & do everything humanly possible to save what's left of the republic.

Respect of norms with the democrats was tossed out years ago...there is no honor left when it comes to the power grab.
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Old 09-20-2020, 02:30 PM   #211
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The left used the enforcement arm of government to falsify evidence in order to try and oust a legally elected President. They investigated, threatened and charged people they knew to be innocent for 3 years. They accused Kavenaugh of rape and sent him And his family through weeks Of hell just to try and prevent him from sitting on the court.

And we are worried about decorum?

Absolutely pathetic. It’s no wonder we are in the situation we are in this country. Our side is full of cowards while the left fights tooth and nail for everything they want.
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Old 09-20-2020, 02:35 PM   #212
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The left used the enforcement arm of government to falsify evidence in order to try and oust a legally elected President. They investigated, threatened and charged people they knew to be innocent for 3 years. They accused Kavenaugh of rape and sent him And his family through weeks Of hell just to try and prevent him from sitting on the court.

And we are worried about decorum?

Absolutely pathetic. Itís no wonder we are in the situation we are in this country. Our side is full of cowards while the left fights tooth and nail for everything they want.
Only the girlie ones are worried about decorum. There are many more of us who want to stomp on their necks until they stop moving.

Go TRUMP.
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Old 09-20-2020, 04:35 PM   #213
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This SCOTUS drama is going to be RUTHless
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Old 09-20-2020, 05:18 PM   #214
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This SCOTUS drama is going to be RUTHless
I bet the democrats said rut-ro when they heard she passed away.
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Old 09-20-2020, 05:42 PM   #215
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The liberal left/Socialist/Communist/Demorats have all said in one form or another they will "burn this **** down" if:

Trump nominates another for the Supreme Court. What and where are these burnings going to take place?
Cities, suburbs where Liberals and Conservatives live. I would be willing to bet most of the businesses burned during these riots were Liberal/Democratic owned business being mostly in Democratic states and Democratic cities. Are they still going to vote Democratic and if they are, how ignorant or stupid can people be?
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Old 09-20-2020, 05:55 PM   #216
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I bet the democrats said rut-ro when they heard she passed away.
Amigo...they said this in 2016 on election night. THIS is exactly why you have seen the orchestrated attempt to remove him from office.

Remember when we talked how important a Trump win was back then simply from the SCOTUS decisions??
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Old 09-20-2020, 06:22 PM   #217
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Seriously guys. Take 5 seconds to look it up before showing your ignorance.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-...until-election

So; is this correct?
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Old 09-20-2020, 06:33 PM   #218
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He's referring to the gals comment regarding her also being voted in on an election year or 'before' an election vs the days it simply took & tying that it could be done before our current election...she just worded it wrong & he ran with it.

I personally think we'll be dealing with confirmation nonsense come nov 3.
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I bet the democrats said rut-ro when they heard she passed away.
Did you guys see the liberal lady in her car screaming and yelling? She will be the new poster girl soon.

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Old 09-20-2020, 07:05 PM   #220
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Did you guys see the liberal karen in her car screaming and yelling? She will be the new poster girl soon.

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Fixed it for ya. That AIN'T no lady!!!
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Thank God DJT is not going to submit to the request of evil democrat politicians who have never read the constitution. Fill the seat!!!
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Old 09-20-2020, 07:22 PM   #222
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Fixed it for ya. That AIN'T no lady!!!
I saw it.....freaking awesome

Yelling at Ruth to stay alive till 2021.....

I canít belie ever there are people out there like that
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Well, I'll be.

Black Voices for Trump board member: Ginsburg was confirmed in fewer days than Trump has until election

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The left used the enforcement arm of government to falsify evidence in order to try and oust a legally elected President. They investigated, threatened and charged people they knew to be innocent for 3 years. They accused Kavenaugh of rape and sent him And his family through weeks Of hell just to try and prevent him from sitting on the court.

And we are worried about decorum?

Absolutely pathetic. Itís no wonder we are in the situation we are in this country. Our side is full of cowards while the left fights tooth and nail for everything they want.

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Itís very interesting to see this debate, when there shouldnít be one.

Trump has an obligation to nominate. The senate can decide to confirm or not, but they will take it to a vote.

Trump is doing his job, just as Obama did in 2016.

When he nominates Amy Coney Barrett, itís not going to immediately overturn Roe Vs. Wade. In fact, Mrs. Barrett is a known textualist. She believes in prior rulings and doesnít believe in ďruling from the benchĒ. Her mentor was Justice Scalia, and she models herself after him.

She is a right of center person and the perfect nominee for the appointment. She is not an extreme in any direction. This is what our country needs.
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Ginsburg has already been replaced. Roberts has taken her position over. Barrett or another pick will replace Roberts who has already proven what he is.
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Ginsburg has already been replaced. Roberts has taken her position over. Barrett or another pick will replace Roberts who has already proven what he is.
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So my daughter said... Wait a minute, Dems do nothing but scream Trump isn't doing his job until now when they're upset because he's doing his job?
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Ginsburg has already been replaced. Roberts has taken her position over. Barrett or another pick will replace Roberts who has already proven what he is.

YUP! Announce the nomination and throw it over the fence to Congress, then if they can get it done, confirm the new Justice... If they run out of time, all the more reason to get out the vote so Trump STILL gets his nomination passed... IF Trump wins, the Senate will become a super-majority and the House will be flipped and the HAG will be kicked out on her arse as Speaker... Be nice to see her have to turn over the Gavel to a Repulsican... Be even nicer if the new Speaker bops her on the head with it ringing the new Repulsican House majority into session!!

First speech should be "Elections have consequences... we won. Get over it and get the hell out the way, cause here we come to take our country back!"


Wouldn't that just be awesome!?!
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YUP! Announce the nomination and throw it over the fence to Congress, then if they can get it done, confirm the new Justice... If they run out of time, all the more reason to get out the vote so Trump STILL gets his nomination passed... IF Trump wins, the Senate will become a super-majority and the House will be flipped and the HAG will be kicked out on her arse as Speaker... Be nice to see her have to turn over the Gavel to a Repulsican... Be even nicer if the new Speaker bops her on the head with it ringing the new Repulsican House majority into session!!

First speech should be "Elections have consequences... we won. Get over it and get the hell out the way, cause here we come to take our country back!"


Wouldn't that just be awesome!?!
The exact quote that came to mind when it was announced RBG passed and heads starting exploding. At this point in time itís very fitting using ol Barry husseinís words. As chuck u said, ďlet the American people decideĒ, we have and we elected DJT to appoint judges who uphold the constitution not feelings.
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YUP! Announce the nomination and throw it over the fence to Congress, then if they can get it done, confirm the new Justice... If they run out of time, all the more reason to get out the vote so Trump STILL gets his nomination passed... IF Trump wins, the Senate will become a super-majority and the House will be flipped and the HAG will be kicked out on her arse as Speaker... Be nice to see her have to turn over the Gavel to a Repulsican... Be even nicer if the new Speaker bops her on the head with it ringing the new Repulsican House majority into session!!

First speech should be "Elections have consequences... we won. Get over it and get the hell out the way, cause here we come to take our country back!"


Wouldn't that just be awesome!?!
I have a feeling if all that happens it will take a lot of bloodshed to get there.
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I have a feeling if all that happens it will take a lot of bloodshed to get there.

Well, if that's the cost of liberty, so be it... I've lived my life and I am certain of my eternity and have no fear of it. Quite the opposite frankly. If I am taken out defending liberty for my grandsons, I consider it no loss at all. When it gets to where I cannot go to work, run my company and serve my customers, the only thing I have left to do is fight, then fight it will be. The left has already declared war on the US and our way of living, but the vast majority of them don't have a clue what they're even doing. Unless they're very lucky, there's a bunch of 'em that will meet their Maker before they take me out. I'm ready.
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I have a feeling if all that happens it will take a lot of bloodshed to get there.
If thats what it takes to rwstore our bation to the constitution then lets get the bleeding started sooner rather than later
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This will likely be my only post ever in this forum.
Unless you believe neither party will ever control all 3 branches ever again, confirming a new justice before the election, or in the lame duck *if* the senate majority or white house changes hands is extremely short sighted on several levels.
It seems like a lot of people think the "lifetime appointment" of justices is not just yet another aspect of our governmental system that relies on norms to stay in place. Justices are still accountable to the majority will of both branches of Congress they can be impeached. Additionally it really doesnít matter how many justices have been appointed, since Congress also gets to set the number that make up the supreme court, the court can be packed. The only thing that stops these things from happening is the respect of the norms, concerns of institutional legitimacy, and that knowledge that at some point the other party may be in power in these norms and institutions will protect us. Once it has been shown that now the normal mode of operation is to grab as much power as possible and then entrench it as permanently as you can, thereís no reason to do anything other than as soon as you have control of all three branches immediately make systemic changes to lock that control in. If the Republicans go forward in this fashion, as soon as the Democrats control all three branches, which could be as soon as Jan 2021, they would be foolish to not do three things immediately
1) revoke the filibuster
2) pack the court to say 15 justices or if itís easier simply impeach the last two
3) make DC in Puerto Rico states, which is a bit more of a lift but very doable

All of which is legal if you have the votes. The only thing that stops this from occurring is a sense of political backlash from such a naked power grab, which will be much less of a issue if a justice has been appointed in lame duck or before the election.
Additionally, if you actually value the standing of the United States and the stability of our institutions this may be the straw that breaks breaks the camels back in the long term. None of this will stop here, it will accelerate. The risk is far too high to go down this path for something that isnít actually permanent anyway.
If the White House and the Senate majority stays after the election then they can do what they want, confirm Amy Barret, and itíll all be within reasonable bounds.
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The left is complaining about the SC having 6 conservative judges if Trump appoints a replacement. But there are currently 4 liberal and 4 conservative judges. Until RBG died there was 5 liberal judges and the SC was controlled by libs. So why is it so bad to now lean conservative? Btw, Roberts is a liberal judge.
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The left is complaining about the SC having 6 conservative judges if Trump appoints a replacement. But there are currently 4 liberal and 4 conservative judges. Until RBG died there was 5 liberal judges and the SC was controlled by libs. So why is it so bad to now lean conservative? Btw, Roberts is a liberal judge.
I think he's a conservative still, but he's just completely owned by the left somehow. Either way, same result though. You're correct.
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I think he's a conservative still, but he's just completely owned by the left somehow. Either way, same result though. You're correct.
Or he just interpreted it correctly.
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Or he just interpreted it correctly.

But probably not


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Old 09-21-2020, 09:59 PM   #247
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Well, if that's the cost of liberty, so be it... I've lived my life and I am certain of my eternity and have no fear of it. Quite the opposite frankly. If I am taken out defending liberty for my grandsons, I consider it no loss at all. When it gets to where I cannot go to work, run my company and serve my customers, the only thing I have left to do is fight, then fight it will be. The left has already declared war on the US and our way of living, but the vast majority of them don't have a clue what they're even doing. Unless they're very lucky, there's a bunch of 'em that will meet their Maker before they take me out. I'm ready.
Amen. Same with me. GOD BLESS AMERICA! GOD BLESS TRUMP
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:09 PM   #248
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But does Amy like beer? Does she drink beer?
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:16 PM   #249
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That meme is hilarious!
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Old 09-21-2020, 10:34 PM   #250
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But does Amy like beer? Does she drink beer?
Sheís Catholic. Thatís a silly question lol
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