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Old 09-21-2020, 12:44 PM   #1
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Im relatively new to field judging length on axis. I think my excitement gets the best of me, as I get as ecstatic as a kid when a good one walks out.

Ive tried reading online, but different folks say different things. How do yall do it? About how long do the antlers have to be to be even with the top of the back?

I tried to post pics of one I saw a couple of weeks ago, but for some reason it isnt letting me post them. Would like to see how big youd think hed be.
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:04 PM   #2
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I just shoot them then measure these days... but when feeding and their horns are at their back they will be 30”
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:06 PM   #3
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Im relatively new to field judging length on axis. I think my excitement gets the best of me, as I get as ecstatic as a kid when a good one walks out.

Ive tried reading online, but different folks say different things. How do yall do it? About how long do the antlers have to be to be even with the top of the back?

I tried to post pics of one I saw a couple of weeks ago, but for some reason it isnt letting me post them. Would like to see how big youd think hed be.
PM sent I'll help post the pic.
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:15 PM   #4
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Lets see if this works....
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:21 PM   #5
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One more. I say he is 30", but I tuned in to this thread because I was looking for input as well. lol
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:28 PM   #6
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I shot one (see thread Monster Axis). I thought he was a medium sized axis deer, but I was more than happy with killing him. Boy was I wrong, he was a lot bigger than expected. Judging seems very difficult, but I'm a newb axis deer hunter.
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:31 PM   #7
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He's over 30"
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Old 09-21-2020, 01:56 PM   #8
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Sometimes they are hard to judge. I shot this one a week ago. I’ll let you guess and then I’ll tell you the longest beam length.
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Old 09-21-2020, 02:19 PM   #9
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Yall can guess the length on this big boy my hunter killed Saturday afternoon. I think anyone would be pleased with this axis




I also darted this one a couple weeks ago. His beam length is almost as good as the dead one. Caudles dont even compare to the dead one. Dead axis has a 12 and 10 inch caudle



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Old 09-21-2020, 02:21 PM   #10
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Wide bucks like that will fool you on length. I'd guess the buck in the pics is about 32". He's a solid buck but he's not old.

MillsJake - 33.5" tall?
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Old 09-21-2020, 02:22 PM   #11
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Wide bucks like that will fool you on length. I'd guess the buck in the pics is about 32". He's a solid buck but he's not old.

MillsJake - 33.5" tall?

34" even on the long side
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Old 09-21-2020, 02:53 PM   #12
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Sometimes they are hard to judge. I shot this one a week ago. Ill let you guess and then Ill tell you the longest beam length.
Very nice! Those caudles are awesome!
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Old 09-21-2020, 02:57 PM   #13
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34" even on the long side
Knew I was close. That's a great buck.
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Old 09-21-2020, 02:57 PM   #14
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Wide bucks like that will fool you on length. I'd guess the buck in the pics is about 32". He's a solid buck but he's not old.

MillsJake - 33.5" tall?
Thanks for the input! I had him around 32-34”. The side view really made me want to lean toward 32”. I also agree he is young, too.
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Old 09-21-2020, 03:13 PM   #15
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Very nice! Those caudles are awesome!

Thank you and yeah that long caudle is wavy if you look from the side. Hes pretty cool looking, if only the right was the same length
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Old 09-21-2020, 03:14 PM   #16
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Knew I was close. That's a great buck.

Thank you! My wifes uncle invited me up to shoot one so i was really blessed to take him.
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Old 09-21-2020, 03:44 PM   #17
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If it has spots, shoot. Sorry I am no help.
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Old 09-21-2020, 03:49 PM   #18
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Here is my one and only axis. 35 1/8 and 34 7/8 on the beams.

I had no clue how to judge them. This one walked up and I knew to put my binos down and grab the gun. I didnt know if he was 25 or 35 when I shot. Ha ha


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Old 09-21-2020, 03:53 PM   #19
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Here is my one and only axis. 35 1/8 and 34 7/8 on the beams.

I had no clue how to judge them. This one walked up and I knew to put my binos down and grab the gun. I didnt know if he was 25 or 35 when I shot. Ha ha


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Thats a nice buck!
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Old 09-21-2020, 04:08 PM   #20
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OP, from the tip of their nose to right between their pedicles is usually about 10-11". That can give you a frame of reference for antler length. If you can get a decent estimate of brow tine length, then compare that to the main beam from pedicle up to where the caudle point starts and estimate the length of that. Then compare the rest of the main beam above the caudle to the first part of the main beam. The more the antlers sweep and curve, the more likely they are to be a little longer than they may appear at first.
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Old 09-21-2020, 04:11 PM   #21
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33.5 per side. I care more about good fronts and tops and mass than length to a point though.
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:03 PM   #22
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33.5 per side. I care more about good fronts and tops and mass than length to a point though.
I like mass also , mass is better than wide pencil white tail
Or a long thin axis

But beggars cannot be choosers I love hunting Both
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:23 PM   #23
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I thought mine was a lot longer than what he ended up measuring. Mine was only 30 even on the long side. Would have guessed him at 33 at least on the good side in the trail came pic. Axis always look bigger in cam pics IMO





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Old 09-21-2020, 05:27 PM   #24
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I agree 100%
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Old 09-21-2020, 05:33 PM   #25
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I hunt Axis free range. So what ever comes along I take. Gotta help my dear Whitetail out!
If an Axis has more than spike horns. Dead. But 30" main beams is the trophy mark.
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Old 09-21-2020, 06:20 PM   #26
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33 and heavy. I would not pass on him.


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Old 09-21-2020, 06:24 PM   #27
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OP, from the tip of their nose to right between their pedicles is usually about 10-11". That can give you a frame of reference for antler length. If you can get a decent estimate of brow tine length, then compare that to the main beam from pedicle up to where the caudle point starts and estimate the length of that. Then compare the rest of the main beam above the caudle to the first part of the main beam. The more the antlers sweep and curve, the more likely they are to be a little longer than they may appear at first.
Thanks, Shane! Exactly the type of insight I was hoping for.
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:18 PM   #28
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33.5” per side. I care more about good fronts and tops and mass than length to a point though.
Mass is definitely cool. It's about all this buck I killed back in May had, but I wanted to shoot him as soon as we walked out with those baseball bats on his head. He does have some good brows. I just went out to the garage to measure the antlers. I never did measure them. Main beams are 31". I really didn't think he was that long. Narrow and heavy, and just average caudles. But he has some serious mass. Huge bull body too. He was a stud. It was like the waters were parting when he walked in. The younger bucks and does just moved out of his way.



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I actually think it is easier to judge axis length from the side. Some times it doesn't matter and you just know you have to go after them.

Anyone care to guess length of this guy? I know the cell camera picture isn't great.
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Old 09-21-2020, 08:43 PM   #30
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I actually think it is easier to judge axis length from the side. Some times it doesn't matter and you just know you have to go after them.

Anyone care to guess length of this guy? I know the cell camera picture isn't great.
I'd guess 34ish, but who cares. WIDE LOAD. It'd be hard to pass him.
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Old 09-21-2020, 09:06 PM   #31
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Killed these two back in high school. Both were 35 and change. Ive been fortunate to watch a lot of axis over the years and have seen several that were 40. To me, 30 is a good deer, 35 is a big deer, and 40 is a true giant. It took me a long time of looking at them in the field and then getting them on the ground with a tape to get good at it. I can tell you that when they get that big heart shape they usually tape out bigger than you think.


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Old 09-21-2020, 09:27 PM   #32
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This one was in the 33-34 range if I remember correctly. His mass, good fronts, and that long caudle got him killed.
The front one was in the 35 range. He was quite the looker. The one in the back had crazy long MBs. We hunted him as a cull buck for a while because he had basically no caudles and not much mass. Id guess he was 36-37. I wish I had better pictures of him.
This one was right around 30-31. They always look bigger from the back similar to WT.


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Old 09-21-2020, 10:11 PM   #33
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I just killed my first as mentioned above, but after this thread...I'm ready for my 2nd.
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Old 09-22-2020, 04:48 AM   #34
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Killed these two back in high school. Both were 35 and change. Ive been fortunate to watch a lot of axis over the years and have seen several that were 40. To me, 30 is a good deer, 35 is a big deer, and 40 is a true giant. It took me a long time of looking at them in the field and then getting them on the ground with a tape to get good at it. I can tell you that when they get that big heart shape they usually tape out bigger than you think.


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I want to see one of those 40s! To date idk that Ive even seen a picture of one that big.
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I actually think it is easier to judge axis length from the side. Some times it doesn't matter and you just know you have to go after them.

Anyone care to guess length of this guy? I know the cell camera picture isn't great.
34ish is my rookie opinion lol
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Old 09-22-2020, 09:32 AM   #36
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I want to see one of those 40s! To date idk that Ive even seen a picture of one that big.
I dont have any. There was only 2 that I ever saw and could confirm because we were able to put a tape to them. 1 was found dead locked up next to a water trough with a 36 if I remember correctly. The foreman has those pictures. Ill have to see if I can get them from him. I always thought that place had a legit chance at the state record but the owner didnt really care about it. He only let friends and family hunt it with a yearly youth hunt. Stellar place with super low hunting pressure and a decent feed program created some giants out there.
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Heres one Im going to arrow next time I chase axis. Best way to judge them is to see lots of them. They get big bodied and short legged. More mass on the antlers too











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Old 09-22-2020, 10:43 AM   #38
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Is this in Eldorado?
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I wish. Its another lease Im on near Del Rio
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Old 09-22-2020, 11:00 AM   #40
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Wasn't there a thread on here a few years ago where a guy had a breeder axis, and was posting progression pics? I've looked and can't find it. I'd love to see how that deer turned out because he was huge.
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Old 09-22-2020, 11:13 AM   #41
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I wish. Its another lease Im on near Del Rio
I got excited for a second. We have some good bucks at our place but nothing like that.
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:06 PM   #42
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I just killed my first as mentioned above, but after this thread...I'm ready for my 2nd.
I've never killed one, but now I have a need to and if this thread doesn't give you that itch...you probably are immune to axis
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Old 09-22-2020, 05:44 PM   #43
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Wasn't there a thread on here a few years ago where a guy had a breeder axis, and was posting progression pics? I've looked and can't find it. I'd love to see how that deer turned out because he was huge.
I think this is the post you are thinking about -- https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...light=age+axis
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Old 09-22-2020, 05:48 PM   #44
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I was at London Oaks over the weekend and he has an axis with hella good fronts. It's gotta be a 36", heavy mass joker as well but the fronts were ridiculous. My phone had gone haywire (cracked screen) or I could've taken some 50 yard pics you couldn't tell anything about anyway.
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How big would yall guess this one at?
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