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Old 01-02-2022, 11:45 PM   #1
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Default Refinishing a bumper/ grill guard

After looking at the prices of new pickups here in Montana and getting knocked-over, Iím going to put some $ into my 01 RAM 2500. Itís been a great truck.

Iíve been looking for a used heavy duty front bumper since everybody in this area of Montana has hit the idiot whitetails on the highways, and elk and moose accidents happen. A family of 4 hit a moose north of here, killing 1 snd hospitalizing the other 3.

I found this bumper on Craigslist and met the seller at a Hone Depot. 2 1/2 hour drive north for me, same drive south for him.

Let the project start.

Picked it up today



Somehow got it into my garage sliding/ dragging it solo across wood blocks.



Looking a bit rough now.




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Old 01-03-2022, 08:38 AM   #2
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Interested Bill, I have an 88 bronco with a monstrosity of a grill guard that I wanna redo. Will be following closely.


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Old 01-03-2022, 09:32 AM   #3
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My plan is to:

- Bend/ hammer a few places back to original position
- Remove rust with flap grinder
- Prime
- Roll on 2 costs of black Herculiner
- Remove and Herculiner the chrome grill

There are 2, 7Ē x 3Ē rectangles for fog/ driving lights. Iíd like to find flush mount led driving lights instead of mounting on the L brackets behind the bumper.

I may also put an led bar on it- and wire all the lights thru a relay to my high beams. That way when thereís an oncoming vehicle I can switch to low beams easily.

Iíll pay a local mechanic who does a lot of diesel trucks to mount it. Iíve got a pair of 2Ē front leveling Ďpucksí and Iíll have Joe install them and replace the front shocks. I can hear my wife ready about the height.

To be continued.


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Old 01-03-2022, 09:42 AM   #4
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Sounds like a fun project. Don't forget to post pics of the truck before the new bumper . . .
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Old 01-03-2022, 05:57 PM   #5
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Sounds like a fun project. Don't forget to post pics of the truck before the new bumper . . .

Here it is. Itís the middle of the Montana winter. A new, shiny one with a heated steering wheel and seats would be nice.




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Old 01-03-2022, 06:28 PM   #6
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If you havent bought the roll on For the cost of the Herculiner you could get the raptor loner in spray cans and it would hold up better. The two times I’ve used herculiner it’s chipped and peeled after a couple of years, raptor liner on an old 4wheeler has been going strong for 5 yrs and get pressure washed often.
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Old 01-03-2022, 07:00 PM   #7
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I don’t know what that stuff cost or what it would cost to get it powder coated up there in the great white north, but I got my full replacement professionally stripped and powder coated for $250 down here and it looks awesome. It’s been holding up really well. Just a thought!
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Old 01-03-2022, 10:47 PM   #8
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Both good ideas, thanks.


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Old 01-09-2022, 09:05 PM   #9
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I’ve never had to good of luck with Herculiner. I’ve had Monstaliner on some items for 5+ years and it’s held up well…may check it out as well for your bed liner.
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Old 01-09-2022, 11:46 PM   #10
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I put Herculiner in 2 pickup beds. The first had sone peeling in a high wear area. The second has not peeled or flaked at all.

I was at the local Napa and spoke with a fellow who works there, whoís helped me in the past. He said his experience is if the surface is prepíd correctly, it works well. Any grease or oil and it has problems.

I appreciate all the comments. I finished a repair on my cattle gate opener today, so the bumper should be next- subject to any honeydos.


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Old 01-16-2022, 05:42 PM   #11
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Got going on the project today. I realized the red was not rust- for the most part, but the red primer where the black paint had been worn/ scraped off. I used a brass wheel on a drill to clean that up and wiped down with Xylol/ xylene on a rag.

I got 1 good coat of Ace HW Rust Stop primer on the bumper. Iím not sure if a second can/coat will do anything for me. But I already bought it.

It looks better already.











There ainít no sense in washing trucks here in the winter- it would look like this in a week or 2. The full moon is rising over the Tobacco Roots mountains.




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Old 01-18-2022, 06:08 PM   #12
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1 quart of Herculiner later.

Points to share:
- it stinks. My workshop was 47 and I kept a door open and the roll up 2í up. If it were Texas-style heat it would have been ugly. Now I closed doors raised the heater to get it above 60 to help it dry. Iím sure it will stink in the morning.

- I tried using a texturing roller. Big mistake. As I rolled it sprayed black coating everywhere. I used an old bristle paint brush instead to get in corners and more dabbed it on.

- Keep stirring it so the crumbled tires or whatever give it texture stays in solution.

- it does thicken in the pan, I added a little xylene (xylol) to thin and stirred it up. Seemed to go on better.

- Xylene is great to clean up. I wore nitrile work gloves and it still got on my hands.

- 1 quart did the bumper, with a little left over. Herculiner recommends 2 coats for a bed liner, Iíll have to see how well 1 covered when itís dry.








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Old 01-20-2022, 10:56 AM   #13
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Turning out real nice
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Old 01-20-2022, 02:55 PM   #14
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Thanks. 1 coat covered well. Since Iím not going to drag things on it like a truck bed, I think 1-coat is ok.

Next ordering some led combo spot/ wide area driving lights to mount while itís still easy to get to the back.

What I want is for the lights to go on/off when my high beams are on/off, unlike fog lights connected with the low beams. I wonder if I can splice into a high beam wire to power, or splice into a relay and run a separate 12v and a deducated fuse.


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Old 01-20-2022, 02:57 PM   #15
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looks good
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Old 01-20-2022, 03:02 PM   #16
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Lookin good.
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Old 01-20-2022, 03:13 PM   #17
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Old 01-20-2022, 04:40 PM   #18
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Next ordering some led combo spot/ wide area driving lights to mount while itís still easy to get to the back.

What I want is for the lights to go on/off when my high beams are on/off, unlike fog lights connected with the low beams. I wonder if I can splice into a high beam wire to power, or splice into a relay and run a separate 12v and a deducated fuse.
Bumper looks good!

As for the lights, when I run spot lights I connect them to the high beams like you mentioned. I use a relay for them. Main power for the spots comes straight from the battery and runs thru the relay to the lights. The trigger wire for the relay (to turn the spots on) is tapped into the high beam wire from one of the headlights. That way, every time your highs come on, so do your spots.

On my old Explorer, I also had a switch to kill the circuit, just in case I didn't want to blind someone when I turned on the high beams.

Something along these lines...

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Old 01-20-2022, 07:13 PM   #19
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Thanks! Thatís what I was thinking, being able to choose if driving lights were on or off when the high beams were on. I canít think when Iíd want high beams without the extra light, but itís easy snd cheap to add.




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Old 01-21-2022, 10:03 AM   #20
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Iíve had luck with 2 led light bars I bought on amazon in the past. Looking at the 6x3Ē and 7x3Ē I canít get over the reviews varying from great to junk.


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Old 01-27-2022, 04:16 PM   #21
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Looks good.
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Old 01-27-2022, 05:15 PM   #22
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Iíve had luck with 2 led light bars I bought on amazon in the past. Looking at the 6x3Ē and 7x3Ē I canít get over the reviews varying from great to junk.


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Iíd purchase them before I purchased Rough Country junk!
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:09 PM   #23
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Looks great Bill, nice work.
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:41 PM   #24
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These came today, Iíll get them mounted in the cutouts.

I checked Montana law and learned I can legally wire them as Ďdriving lightsí and tie them into the high beams aimed 1Ē down at 25í. As long as theyíre 42Ē or less off pavement, theyíre legal. Fog lights are 16-30Ē above pavement, tied to low beams and aimed 4Ē down at 25í. Above 42Ē theyíre off road only lights. Butís here, I donít know about the Texas Republic.




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Old 02-06-2022, 02:29 PM   #25
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Spending some time on it today. New Rancho 5000s are arriving tomorrow.

After thinking about how to mount the fog lights, I got 4 u-bolts. Drilled 8 holes in bumper, and used some doubled-up heater hose with tape wrapped as a cushion. Seems better than using the supplied bracket bolted to a steel bracket under the lights.

I figure once bumper is installed I can get sone horizontal adjustment using rubber shims. I still need to chop down the bolts and paint black.









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Old 02-10-2022, 01:22 PM   #26
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Well, part done. Scraped off metal film with a chisel (wear gloves- donít ask me how I know the edges are really sharp), rough up plastic with sandpaper, sprayed with Duplicolor clear adhesion promoter primer ( for plastic body parts), then sprayed Duplicolor enamel flat black.



Still waiting for shocks. Iíve had these since I bought the topper in Cali for the move to Montana 3 years ago with bare necessities and the seller threw them in.




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Old 02-10-2022, 10:19 PM   #27
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Old 02-14-2022, 06:28 PM   #28
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On the trailer to the mechanic. Heís so busy I asked him to fix guys trucks who need them to earn a living and call me when he can schedule me in.

I brought my archery target out to shoot my bow. It feels great tp see arrows flying!




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Old 02-15-2022, 11:23 AM   #29
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When I was at the shop I met another customer. He recently hit a mulie driving over the pass coming here, then 15 minutes later had a whitetail jump in front of him close to where we are. Two deer strikes in 25 minutes.

You can tell the Ďlocalsí around here. Posted speed is 70, out of towners go 80 and locals drive 50-60 because of whitetails. Lots of areas to pass us.
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Old 02-23-2022, 03:50 PM   #30
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I had it installed plus leveling kit/ Rancho shocks.

I need to build something under the lights and across in front of the transmission radiator. I have a piece of fir from building the house which primed and Herculinerís might work.

With the 2Ē leveling kit and the big bumper, Iím going to bolts a piece of steel on the bottom and make a step to climb up.






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Old 02-23-2022, 09:14 PM   #31
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That kinda reminds me of the factory brush guard I had on my '67 D100 Short-n-narrow many years ago. Only a bit more heavy duty. I did a 2wd to lifted 4x4 on it. It was a tank when I got done!
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