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Old 10-21-2021, 11:03 PM   #1
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Default Alec Baldwin involved with shooting.

Breaking news. Gonna be interesting to follow.
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:07 PM   #2
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Oh the irony.
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:08 PM   #3
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Huh?
Prop gun?
Was it a tank?
Loaded ammo on a movie set?
Blank ammo fired against their temples?
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:10 PM   #4
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Huh?
Property gun?
Was it a tank?
Loaded ammo on a movie set?
Blank ammo fired against their temples?
Prop gun, as in supposed to be fake. I guess like the one that killed Brandon Lee during filming of The Crow?
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:15 PM   #5
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Never Never Ever point any type of gun at another human being……too bad it wasn’t a suicide scene for alec. Wouldn’t that be reckless discharge of a weapon? Maybe involuntary man slaughter? I hope her family sues that bag a **** and breaks his ***.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...r-set-n1282126

Misfire of a prop gun with blanks? he should be charged.

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Old 10-21-2021, 11:37 PM   #7
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Never Never Ever point any type of gun at another human being……too bad it wasn’t a suicide scene for alec. Wouldn’t that be reckless discharge of a weapon? Maybe involuntary man slaughter? I hope her family sues that bag a **** and breaks his ***.
Are we sure that's a "her"?
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:40 PM   #8
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Are we sure that's a "her"?
Probably cisgendered…..they / them.

Now it’s a were / was.
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:42 PM   #9
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Mr. Anti-everything American killed people...with an evil firearm? Oh the humanity.
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:43 PM   #10
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Probably cisgendered…..they / them.

Now it’s a were / was.

I shouldn’t have laughed at that, but I’m cracking up right now.
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:44 PM   #11
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Mr. Anti-everything American killed people...with an evil firearm? Oh the humanity.
Can he be charged ?
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Can he be charged ?
He should be charged with Criminally Negligent Homicide or Manslaughter/Negligence. But I'm not sure of the laws in NM
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Old 10-21-2021, 11:53 PM   #13
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Ban prop guns! Seems like he's part of the gun violence problem in this country. He's shot more innocent folks than anyone I know.
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Old 10-22-2021, 12:02 AM   #14
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$100 says that ****bird blames the film crew.
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Old 10-22-2021, 12:56 AM   #15
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Never let a full blown idiot fondle a firearm.... This is what happens.. People die.
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Old 10-22-2021, 01:09 AM   #16
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Ban prop guns! Seems like he's part of the gun violence problem in this country. He's shot more innocent folks than anyone I know.

When is the last time you’ve seen a democrat clear and make safe a weapon just saying….


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Old 10-22-2021, 01:30 AM   #17
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Can he be charged ?
If someone causes the death of another person, they “can” always be charged.

With nothing in the article saying what happened other than someone is dead, it is almost impossible to tell with no further information. It mostly goes by the mental state of the person causing the death. Was it intentional? Was it reckless? Was it negligent? What exactly did he do to cause it?

At this point you almost have to play “what if”.

Thousands of blank rounds are fired on movie sets in this country every year. A gunshot on a movie or television show is not strange. Without thinking too deeply on it, there are two main questions to come to mind in this case. The first is who is responsible for loading the fake or prop firearms? The second question is what was Baldwin doing when the incident happened?

Another article I read about this accident said that it was during a rehearsal of a scene. Was Baldwin just doing what he was being told/directed to do? Did he fire the gun as he was instructed to do during the rehearsal? Was he responsible for the loading the blanks or was it a crew member(s)?

So here is a what if. What if it was during a rehearsal but Baldwin thought he would be cute and turn the gun on somebody else during a break in the action and shot at a member of the crew too closely? That might definitely be considered negligent or reckless. In Texas that could be considered Criminally Negligent Homicide or Manslaughter.

Or…

What if it was during the filming and he acted exactly as directed and he was not responsible for setting up the props? In that case it might be found that he had no criminal responsibility whatsoever and would not likely be charged.

In the death of Brandon Lee on the film set after being shot with a prop gun, it was found to be the film special effects crew that caused the accident. They were supposed to make a blank round with an actual projectile so it would look like an actual loaded gun but that round was not supposed to have any powder or a primer. It was supposed to be for looks only. A second round was supposed to have a powder charge but no projectile. So the scene should have shown what appeared to be a live round being put in the gun. The actual discharge and flash for the shot being fired was nothing but powder. The Special effects crew screwed up however and put the primer in the dummy round and when the trigger was pulled it was just enough energy to push the projectile a little bit into the barrel with the squib round. The actor was then given the gun with a blank powder charge only but with a crew not having knowledge of the squib round they had created with the projectile now in the barrel. So when the actor fired the blank powder charge only round, it shoved the squib round out the barrel killing Lee.

The outcome in that case was the district attorney ruling that it was negligent but brought no charges. Had there been charges it would most likely have been on the film crew that caused the accident, not the actor who was handed what was supposed to be a blank round only.

If that was a similar type of incident in this case, I would think that Baldwin would not be charged.
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Old 10-22-2021, 01:31 AM   #18
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$100 says that ****bird blames the film crew.
… and he might be 100% correct.
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Old 10-22-2021, 06:35 AM   #19
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The odd part is, it wasn't an actor on the set that was killed, but a couple producers. I'm sure they "stand in" from time to time to show how they want a scene filmed, so maybe that's what happened? All speculation until the facts come out.
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Old 10-22-2021, 06:56 AM   #20
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Even though I think Baldwin is a piece of ***** this is still a tragedy. The victims families still deserve a little respect. Please remember it could be any of our family members and no matter who's at fault still painful to go through. JMHO
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:00 AM   #21
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Sad for the dead folks...But I hope the grief eats away at Baldwin. Anti American POS.
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:01 AM   #22
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:37 AM   #23
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I’m no fan of Baldwin but this is ****ed tragic for those killed and injured
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:16 AM   #24
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More Government gun control could’ve prevented this from happening.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:20 AM   #25
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I’d like to know if there is a video of this “ accident “.
He has a tends to go off the rails and I can see him getting ****** about something and intentionally pointing and shooting that gun because he’s and idiot
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:28 AM   #26
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I’d like to know if there is a video of this “ accident “.
He has a tends to go off the rails and I can see him getting ****** about something and intentionally pointing and shooting that gun because he’s and idiot
Agree. guy's a time bomb
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:32 AM   #27
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I’d like to know if there is a video of this “ accident “.
He has a tends to go off the rails and I can see him getting ****** about something and intentionally pointing and shooting that gun because he’s and idiot
Exact same thought I had. I have never seen a grown man who has melt downs/temper tantrums quite like he does.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:43 AM   #28
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Are we sure that's a "her"?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/22/enter...ntl/index.html
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:44 AM   #29
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He was good in Beetlejuice. Thats about it.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:47 AM   #30
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Condolences for the deceased. Baldwin, well I'll just keep that to myself.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:54 AM   #31
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What a crappy deal, I still remember when something similar happened to Brandon Lee.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:09 AM   #32
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No way this is gonna work out well for Baldwin
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:11 AM   #33
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Remember when Bruce Lee's son, Brandon, was killed on set? I'd bet it's going to be a similar circumstance.

Only reason I recall this is because I just watched a conspiracy theory show on it last night LOL
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:22 AM   #34
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He was the bomb in hunt for the red October.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:31 AM   #35
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Karma's a ***** sometimes. Especially when u suck as a human being.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:42 AM   #36
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It's bad that she died and the other guy is in the hospital. Stupid liberal POS Baldwin doesn't have enough sense to know you don't point ANY weapon at someone regardless if it's a "prop" gun or not.

I'll bet Baldwin is never charged with criminally negligent homicide or anything for that matter. This will just be another "oops" in California.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:50 AM   #37
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I believe the union recently approved a contract that addressed safety and pay.

Coming out of the gate with this homicide gotta feel good about the safety protocols.

Maybe they bring charges on everyone back to the armory? I would imagine any charges from the SFSO would have to be approved by the governor.

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Old 10-22-2021, 09:50 AM   #38
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Sad for the dead folks...But I hope the grief eats away at Baldwin. Anti American POS.
Too bad it wasn't him.
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Old 10-22-2021, 10:03 AM   #39
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Too bad it wasn't him.
They they would have a tribute and make a new award in his name. I’m sorry for the loss of the woman, but he will suffer much longer with the guilt of having killed someone with a gun, which he hates but makes money off of using them in movies. He probably will divert the blame to someone else and have no remorse, he’s a true POS.
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I didn't think 'prop' guns actually functioned...how could hollyweird bring live ammo on set??
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Sad

But I am still rolling laughing

Anti Gun Nut using a gun?!!! what, how can that be?

Liberal hypocrisy
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Stupid liberal POS Baldwin doesn't have enough sense to know you don't point ANY weapon at someone regardless if it's a "prop" gun or not.
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I get your point but it would be impossible to produce the movie shooting scenes realistically following that rule.

This is why prop gun are supposed to be disabled.
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Old 10-22-2021, 10:24 AM   #43
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Bruce Lee's son was killed by a prop gun on the set of the Crow.
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Old 10-22-2021, 10:25 AM   #44
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Condolences to the family of the victims

Twice I have seen people get shot in accidents ,both by prop guns

1. During a old west shoot out recreation of a sheriff and bad guy , bad guy shot my buddy/sheriff in the face with some wax used as wadding to hold the powder in ,
Dropped him like a rock, but no serious damage after inspection

2. Old west bar shootout, everyone standing there watching the show and some actor burst out some double doors, guns a blazing, and some lady in the audience
Got hit by something , don’t know the outcome as we left to keep driving to Colorado

The prop gun manager is responsible for all guns on a movie or television set, wonder how two people were shot 1.killed 1 hospitalized ?
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I get your point but it would be impossible to produce the movie shooting scenes realistically following that rule.

This is why prop gun are supposed to be disabled.
I don’t think there are prop guns, the guns used to actually shoot, just prop ammo

There are tons of fake guns used, plastic/rubber ones that are not meant to be shot during the movie. A buddy of mine from college was a Corp **** and they were hired to be extras in a military movie, troops marching in the background. They were all given fake M-16, he said they were rubber and you could bend them, etc.
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Old 10-22-2021, 10:29 AM   #46
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Brandon Lee says hello.
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Old 10-22-2021, 10:30 AM   #47
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How could hollyweird bring live ammo on set??
Blanks...but if any debris of any sort falls down the barrel it will be a projectile.
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I get your point but it would be impossible to produce the movie shooting scenes realistically following that rule.

This is why prop gun are supposed to be disabled.
Took the words out of my mouth. It would look pretty silly watching a western if no one ever had a "gun" pointed at them

Looks like a bad accident, hopefully, that is the case.
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Took the words out of my mouth. It would look pretty silly watching a western if no one ever had a "gun" pointed at them.
Nobody would watch a western like that.
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Blanks...but if any debris of any sort falls down the barrel it will be a projectile.
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“” Brandon Lee - the 28-year-old son of the late martial-arts star Bruce Lee - died on set after being accidentally shot with a prop gun while filming a death scene for the film The Crow.
It was later determined that the gun used had earlier fired a round that caused a cartridge to become lodged in the barrel. When blank rounds were later fired, the cartridge was dislodged and released.””
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