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Old 09-16-2019, 02:15 PM   #1
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I'll preface this by saying I don't really care one way or another but wanted to poll y'all to see what the consensus is. Yes, there is a back story but for now just the poll. So:

Is calling Robert Francis, an Irish American, "Fake Mexican, Real Pendejo" racially insensitive or offensive? Does it matter if the person saying it is Hispanic or not? Does it matter if the person on the receiving end is Hispanic or not?

I'll leave it at that for now and check back in for results.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:21 PM   #2
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No Poll needed. The guy is a fake without regard to his ancestry. He's in politics, so he needs to be ready to handle what comes his way.


Overall in this country, everyone is out to be offended or be offensive... Who gives a rat's arse. Get over yourself. If you can't stand the heat, get out the kitchen.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:26 PM   #3
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Well of course some will find it offensive, someone is always offended by **** near anything you do.

To those without pansy *** feelings, we are not offended.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:27 PM   #4
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Well, it's true...he's not hispanic & the man really is a stupid politician.

Probably offensive to pendejo himself I reckon.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:34 PM   #6
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No. Simply put... He is not a real Mexican and he is a a real Pendejo for trying represent himself as one. If anything, real Mexicans ought to be offended by what the guy is doing.

Someone would have to explain how they could even take take that as racially insensitive or offensive. Where does that say insult Mexicans?
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:42 PM   #7
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No. Simply put... He is not a real Mexican and he is a a real Pendejo for trying represent himself as one. If anything, real Mexicans ought to be offended by what the guy is doing.

Someone would have to explain how they could even take take that as racially insensitive or offensive. Where does that say insult Mexicans?
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:43 PM   #9
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No. Simply put... He is not a real Mexican and he is a a real Pendejo for trying represent himself as one. If anything, real Mexicans ought to be offended by what the guy is doing.

Someone would have to explain how they could even take take that as racially insensitive or offensive. Where does that say insult Mexicans?
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:30 PM   #10
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If he were a Republican he would have to apologize for cultural appropriation and send himself to counseling.....so no it's not any of the things you mentioned....its fitting
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well, it's true...he's not hispanic & the man really is a stupid politician.

Probably offensive to pendejo himself i reckon.

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Old 09-16-2019, 08:47 PM   #12
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I have read this like 3 times and here are my answers.

Is calling Robert Francis, an Irish American, "Fake Mexican, Real Pendejo" racially insensitive or offensive? NO
Does it matter if the person saying it is Hispanic or not? NO
Does it matter if the person on the receiving end is Hispanic or not? NO
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Old 09-16-2019, 10:56 PM   #13
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The action of hispandering is offensive in my opinion.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:00 PM   #14
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El Beto has inspired all of the other candidates to enroll in Spanish class.

All of the spontaneous switching back and forth from ingles to espanol in their responses is such a crock, laughable really.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:04 PM   #15
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It’s all about identity politics for the left. I’m surprised he’s not running as the first openly gay/by Hispanic Irishman that identifies as African American for president...
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Old 09-17-2019, 08:46 AM   #16
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He"s gone past flake all the way to crispy critter! your breakfast cereal has more intelligence,Really,why do we even talk about this clown?
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:27 AM   #17
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Thanks for the opinions, I share your beliefs.

The short of the backstory is I have, well had a democrat Hispanic friend that I used to coach LL with, etc that follows me on twitter. Every relevant chance I get I post that Robert Francis is a "Fake Mexican, Real Pendejo". My now ex-friend texted me and told me I don't have the right to call someone fake Hispanic. I texted him back saying I'm more Hispanic that Robert (I'm 100% German) and I won't stop calling him out as a fraud, hypocrite and general POS based on his pandering and un-constitutional policies. He called me a racist because of it. I slammed his butt with facts on how Robert Francis is 4th generation Irish and asked him what part of Mexico the 4th generation Irish are from since I apparently missed that in geography class. Since then crickets, since he doesn't have a reply to facts other than calling me racist (which I also called him out on as a true leftist). I'm done with anybody who calls me a racist, probably should have been done with him a long time ago.
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Old 09-17-2019, 09:31 AM   #18
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His dad gave him that nickname because he knew he couldn't win in El Paso being Irish. lol

In the backdrop of the city's multicultural community, his father, Pat O'Rourke, a consummate politician, once explained why he nicknamed his son Beto: Nicknames are common in Mexico and along the border, and if he ever ran for office in El Paso, the odds of being elected in this mostly Mexican-American city were far greater with a name like Beto than Robert Francis O'Rourke. It was also a way to distinguish him from his maternal grandfather, Robert Williams.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018...inst-ted-cruz/
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Thanks for the opinions, I share your beliefs.

The short of the backstory is I have, well had a democrat Hispanic friend that I used to coach LL with, etc that follows me on twitter. Every relevant chance I get I post that Robert Francis is a "Fake Mexican, Real Pendejo". My now ex-friend texted me and told me I don't have the right to call someone fake Hispanic. I texted him back saying I'm more Hispanic that Robert (I'm 100% German) and I won't stop calling him out as a fraud, hypocrite and general POS based on his pandering and un-constitutional policies. He called me a racist because of it. I slammed his butt with facts on how Robert Francis is 4th generation Irish and asked him what part of Mexico the 4th generation Irish are from since I apparently missed that in geography class. Since then crickets, since he doesn't have a reply to facts other than calling me racist (which I also called him out on as a true leftist). I'm done with anybody who calls me a racist, probably should have been done with him a long time ago.
HISPANIC IS A CULTURE NOT A RACE!!!! Hispanic or Latin people are WHITE! Your ex- friend is a moron,he is the “bigot” for not accepting the fact that someone else may have a different opinion than himself and wants to use the race card to shut you up.
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His dad gave him that nickname because he knew he couldn't win in El Paso being Irish. lol

In the backdrop of the city's multicultural community, his father, Pat O'Rourke, a consummate politician, once explained why he nicknamed his son Beto: Nicknames are common in Mexico and along the border, and if he ever ran for office in El Paso, the odds of being elected in this mostly Mexican-American city were far greater with a name like Beto than Robert Francis O'Rourke. It was also a way to distinguish him from his maternal grandfather, Robert Williams.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2018...inst-ted-cruz/
Don’t believe that! I have a neighbor that grew up with him and he went by Robert in high school
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He called me a racist because of it. I'm done with anybody who calls me a racist, probably should have been done with him a long time ago.
That word has lost all true meaning. Basically it means "someone I disagree with" now.
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I can't come up with an equation that proves a white guy calling out a white guy pretending to not be white equals racism.
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I can't come up with an equation that proves a white guy calling out a white guy pretending to not be white equals racism.
You ain't woke enough to solve that equation.
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yup...the word is used to end any sort of discussion or debate if they don't agree or losing the argument. Just spew racist, walk away & doesn't matter what a racist says. They have totally diluted it's true meaning & made it a talking point for the media & politicians.
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I can't come up with an equation that proves a white guy calling out a white guy pretending to not be white equals racism.
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You ain't woke enough to solve that equation.

He's right you know... You're just gonna have to go make you some student loans and get yourseff back to school to learn some more math!
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the odds of being elected in this mostly Mexican-American city were far greater with a name like Beto than Robert Francis O'Rourke. It was also a way to distinguish him from his maternal grandfather, Robert Williams.
1. Now THAT is racist.

2. Why not just name him Roberto ?

3. "his father, Pat O'Rourke, a consummate politician" Let me take a wild guess here. Pat, Pat O'Rourke, was an elected politician in the mostly Mexican-American city of - El Paso. Wait for it.


WITH THE NAME PAT
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The one thing that offends me is finding someone else hunting my spot!!! The rest is just BS and political nonsense.
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ese hijo de puta criminal puede ahogarse con un pene de burro


How’s that for offensive?
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BTW, if you have any sort of preference then you might be a racist.
I guess I fit the mold.
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Truly amazing how you all draw a difference when it fits.
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Truly amazing how you all draw a difference when it fits.
Go cry elsewhere...
You libs crack me up with your hypocrisy...
If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be nowhere to be found...
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HISPANIC IS A CULTURE NOT A RACE!!!! Hispanic or Latin people are WHITE!.


There are plenty of hillbilly inbreeds on the green screen that don’t believe that. I could post up hundreds of pages of quotes confirming. Just sayin.


Not offensive. Robert Francis is a criminal, fake everything who likely doesn’t even believe trash he spews out.



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Go cry elsewhere...
You libs crack me up with your hypocrisy...
If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be nowhere to be found...
Never have been a lib, but you paint with a broad brush. I do not like Beto one iota. The hypocrisy lies in your acceptance of Cruz's name change but not Beto. Beto's happened as a child, not as an adult in order to make him sound more politician. There, now I am found.
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Never have been a lib, but you paint with a broad brush. I do not like Beto one iota. The hypocrisy lies in your acceptance of Cruz's name change but not Beto. Beto's happened as a child, not as an adult in order to make him sound more politician. There, now I am found.
Doubt that...
I don't give 2 ****s about Beto changing his name, but if you don't think he is taking it to the extreme, you're clueless.
Now, get lost again.
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Beto's happened as a child, not as an adult in order to make him sound more politician. There, now I am found.
His politician dad, Pat, literally stated the exact opposite. Exact. Flipping. Opposite.

In the backdrop of the city's multicultural community, his father, Pat O'Rourke, a consummate politician, once explained why he nicknamed his son Beto: Nicknames are common in Mexico and along the border, and if he ever ran for office in El Paso, the odds of being elected in this mostly Mexican-American city were far greater with a name like Beto than Robert Francis O'Rourke. It was also a way to distinguish him from his maternal grandfather, Robert Williams.
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1. Now THAT is racist.

2. Why not just name him Roberto ?

3. "his father, Pat O'Rourke, a consummate politician" Let me take a wild guess here. Pat, Pat O'Rourke, was an elected politician in the mostly Mexican-American city of - El Paso. Wait for it.


WITH THE NAME PAT
We should refer to Pat as Pito from now on
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Doubt that...
I don't give 2 ****s about Beto changing his name, but if you don't think he is taking it to the extreme, you're clueless.
Now, get lost again.
Again I do not care for Beto... He is taking it too extreme. You are correct!!! Hope your day is a great one sir.
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His politician dad, Pat, literally stated the exact opposite. Exact. Flipping. Opposite.

In the backdrop of the city's multicultural community, his father, Pat O'Rourke, a consummate politician, once explained why he nicknamed his son Beto: Nicknames are common in Mexico and along the border, and if he ever ran for office in El Paso, the odds of being elected in this mostly Mexican-American city were far greater with a name like Beto than Robert Francis O'Rourke. It was also a way to distinguish him from his maternal grandfather, Robert Williams.
Great, now they are both in the same boat. To be a politician you must polish. Cruz admitted on air that he did "the same thing as Beto"

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I'm hispanic. I think it's halarious. I'm just going to come out and say it. He thinks hispanics are stupid and he can win their vote just by playing the part yada, yada yada. As a a matter of fact alot of Democrats are. The sad reality is alot of hispanics will play into to their antics and vote for them. I am more offended by that. I don't live in Mexico, I don't have family there nor do I have any interest in trying to make this country more like it. He'll I found out on here that Cinco DE mayo was not Mexicos independence day. But I did kinda play the part and drank for free on that day at the airport in New Orleans once. But that was just between the bar made and me

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Link?

If you put a career politician named Patrick O'Rourke and Cuban born chico named Rafael Bienvenido Cruz y Díaz, in the same ethnic boat you are loco in la cabaza, B.
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If you put a career politician named Patrick O'Rourke and Cuban born chico named Rafael Bienvenido Cruz y Díaz, in the same ethnic boat you are loco in la cabaza, B.
Cruz was not born in Cuba, in point of fact, he was born in Calgary from what i can find.
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Cruz was not born in Cuba, in point of fact, he was born in Calgary from what i can find.
I think he was asking for the link that as you said, he changed his name for political reasons.
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