Tiger Woods: Does Anybody Even Care?

[Rack Ranch]

I understand that he was once one of the best ever, but... BYE!!
He's done. I listen to and watch a lot of golf and I'm sick of hearing his name. He is a washed up has been that will never win another tourney. Can we stop glossing him already. I don't care what club he's swinging, what ball he's hitting, or what shirt he's wearing. The game is going to be just fine without him.
Does anybody even care if he comes back???

[UncleBubba]

Nope

[CrookedArrow]

who?

[Phdan]

Originally Posted by Rack Ranch

I understand that he was once one of the best ever, but... BYE!!

He's done. I listen to and watch a lot of golf and I'm sick of hearing his name. He is a washed up has been that will never win another tourney. Can we stop glossing him already. I don't care what club he's swinging, what ball he's hitting, or what shirt he's wearing. The game is going to be just fine without him.

Does anybody even care if he comes back???

Apparently you do

[ArcheryAssassin]

Originally Posted by Phdan

Apparently you do

lol

[DNTRanch]

Nope--- see ya!!!

[WItoTX]

I would love to see a lot of guys come back. Always cool to see a comeback story. Aaron Watson prime example. Or Willie. Or Cash.

Not to mention, Tiger made the sport of golf cool again. Look how many kids started playing after watching him? Why do you think there are all these young guys playing now that can out drive Tiger even when he was at his best?

[Buck-N-Rut]

Originally Posted by WItoTX

I would love to see a lot of guys come back. Always cool to see a comeback story. Aaron Watson prime example. Or Willie. Or Cash.

Not to mention, Tiger made the sport of golf cool again. Look how many kids started playing after watching him? Why do you think there are all these young guys playing now that can out drive Tiger even when he was at his best?

I never knew Aaron Watson left. Confused???

[bdchorn]

Originally Posted by Rack Ranch

I understand that he was once one of the best ever, but... BYE!!
He's done. I listen to and watch a lot of golf and I'm sick of hearing his name. He is a washed up has been that will never win another tourney. Can we stop glossing him already. I don't care what club he's swinging, what ball he's hitting, or what shirt he's wearing. The game is going to be just fine without him.
Does anybody even care if he comes back???

I get the sentiment but think you severely underestimate his impact on golf. NO ONE has had a bigger impact on golf from a financial standpoint. Purse money has increased at least 10x, the number of amateur players has boomed worldwide, equipment manufacturers, etc. In fact, the single biggest reason the golf business is struggling right now is Tiger is no longer in the field.

Afraid you will continue to hear his name for several more decades

[kembry]

Originally Posted by bdchorn

I get the sentiment but think you severely underestimate his impact on golf. NO ONE has had a bigger impact on golf from a financial standpoint. Purse money has increased at least 10x, the number of amateur players has boomed worldwide, equipment manufacturers, etc. In fact, the single biggest reason the golf business is struggling right now is Tiger is no longer in the field.

Afraid you will continue to hear his name for several more decades

This is spot on. I'm in the golf industry and Tiger was easily the biggest reason for the growth of the sport from the late 90's. I'm not saying that I'm a big fan, but the sport is better off when he's involved. Others will help bridge the gap but it won't be the same without him. I agree that his competitive days are most likely over and it's kind of sad watching someone that undeniably dominated the game for a decade, breakdown in front of us.

[bdchorn]

[QUOTE=kembry;12208280]This is spot on. I'm in the golf industry and Tiger was easily the biggest reason for the growth of the sport from the late 90's. I'm not saying that I'm a big fan, but the sport is better off when he's involved. Others will help bridge the gap but it won't be the same without him. I agree that his competitive days are most likely over and it's kind of sad watching someone that undeniably dominated the game for a decade, breakdown in front of us.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is if they both were in their prime at the same time Tiger would whip Jacks butt with any piece of equipment you put in his hand. Love watching the guy play and I couldn't possibly care less that he's a train wreck off the course. God will be the judge of all that mess in due time. I just want to see the guy play.

I will never understand those that actually play golf and hate Tiger. There's a reason every guy on tour respects the guy. Without Tiger the PGA is a shadow of itself and there aren't mini tours. Hell, Arnold Palmer made less money in his entire career than Jordan Spieth has in 2017 alone.

Earl Woods was 100% right when he said his son would forever change the game of golf.

[mdnabors]

[quote=bdchorn;12208298]

Originally Posted by kembry

This is spot on. I'm in the golf industry and Tiger was easily the biggest reason for the growth of the sport from the late 90's. I'm not saying that I'm a big fan, but the sport is better off when he's involved. Others will help bridge the gap but it won't be the same without him. I agree that his competitive days are most likely over and it's kind of sad watching someone that undeniably dominated the game for a decade, breakdown in front of us.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is if they both were in their prime at the same time Tiger would whip Jacks butt with any piece of equipment you put in his hand. Love watching the guy play and I couldn't possibly care less that he's a train wreck off the course. God will be the judge of all that mess in due time. I just want to see the guy play.

I will never understand those that actually play golf and hate Tiger. There's a reason every guy on tour respects the guy. Without Tiger the PGA is a shadow of itself and there aren't mini tours. Hell, Arnold Palmer made less money in his entire career than Jordan Spieth has in 2017 alone.

Earl Woods was 100% right when he said his son would forever change the game of golf.

YEP to ALL of this! ^^ Tiger is good for golf like it or not. I for one loved watching him play in his prime.

[postman]

Originally Posted by kembry

This is spot on. I'm in the golf industry and Tiger was easily the biggest reason for the growth of the sport from the late 90's. I'm not saying that I'm a big fan, but the sport is better off when he's involved. Others will help bridge the gap but it won't be the same without him. I agree that his competitive days are most likely over and it's kind of sad watching someone that undeniably dominated the game for a decade, breakdown in front of us.

By this analysis did the hooking industry benefit from Tiger's participation?

[kembry]

Originally Posted by postman

By this analysis did the hooking industry benefit from Tiger's participation?

Possibly...

[Juice]

Originally Posted by bdchorn

I get the sentiment but think you severely underestimate his impact on golf. NO ONE has had a bigger impact on golf from a financial standpoint. Purse money has increased at least 10x, the number of amateur players has boomed worldwide, equipment manufacturers, etc. In fact, the single biggest reason the golf business is struggling right now is Tiger is no longer in the field.

Afraid you will continue to hear his name for several more decades

This is true

[SFAbowhunter]

I'd like to think he will come back and get a few more wins, but I don't think it is going to happen. I don't think he needs to be completely gone. Look at what he's done for the sport in general...there's not another guy out there that has brought that many people into the game. He has been hard on his body throughout his career and he's paying for it right now.

[Pope & Yum]

If he gets healthy and starts hanging around those high dollar "escorts", he will end up besting Jack's record...




With that being said, he is done. Golf is 100% mental and he is not even at 50%.

[JTeLarkin08]

Originally Posted by Pope & Yum

If he gets healthy and starts hanging around those high dollar "escorts", he will end up besting Jack's record...




With that being said, he is done. Golf is 100% mental and he is not even at 50%.

No kidding. He needs to start banging high dollar hookers again
I feel that would do his mental game wonders

[ghostgoblin22]

every golfer has back issues, but tigers is different, his back/spine is deteriorating, you lose a lot of flexibility and the ability to strike the ball over time and its hitting him hard, I'm the biggest fan of tiger out there, I started playing golf when I was 2, and when I was in high school that's when he was at his greatest..

with his type of back injury it might take him years to get back to 100%..maybe, it truly is his physical game that is letting him down

[Fishndude]

Golf needs him to come back. $$$

So yes, people care. But your rant is duely noted by the 234 people who will see it.

[HC Sniper]

Nope. He is done. His swing mechanics do nothing but put stress on his back. He will never be able to compete at that level for any extended amount of time ever again.

[Buckley99]

Originally Posted by HC Sniper

Nope. He is done. His swing mechanics do nothing but put stress on his back. He will never be able to compete at that level for any extended amount of time ever again.

This ^^^

Unless he completely revamps his swing, his back will not let him return to any kind of sustained success.

[flywise]

I get tired of hearing about him and when he plays they feature him even when he is 5 over par and hacking it all over the course.

[tgridley]

Originally Posted by flywise

I get tired of hearing about him and when he plays they feature him even when he is 5 over par and hacking it all over the course.

oops.

[flywise]

Originally Posted by tgridley

oops.

No ooops,
I watch golf almost religiously and for many years he has sucked but the media coverage was if he was still world #1. When a guy is world 1100 I dont need to hear about his every shot. So he is better these days as a player and a person. Good

[txoutdoorsman24]

Originally Posted by flywise

No ooops,
I watch golf almost religiously and for many years he has sucked but the media coverage was if he was still world #1. When a guy is world 1100 I dont need to hear about his every shot. So he is better these days as a player and a person. Good

I'm a huge tiger fan and love to see him back to glory, but I am right there with you. It was a little hard watching when they showcased everything he did. Just think, what the coverage will be in a couple weeks when he tees it up again.

[Cajun Blake]

NOBODY beats Father Time

TW's body has broken down due to several reasons: very aggressive swing, and his body is old ... he's been a golf prodigy since he could walk and probably been hitting a thousand golf balls a day for 35+ yrs.

If he was smart, he should duplicate the swing of the 78 yr old gray haired lady who plays from the yellow tees. 150 yds straight down the fairway and uses the same golf ball for 18 holes

[HC Sniper]

Golf does not need him $$$ wise. Golf is doing great without him. There are so many good young talented players on tour now that he will not be missed at all. The $$s will still be there whether he ever plays again or not. #10 on the money list as of right now (early in the season, not even to summer yet) has made 1.3 million dollars. Golf is not hurting!!!!

[bdchorn]

Originally Posted by HC Sniper

Golf does not need him $$$ wise. Golf is doing great without him. There are so many good young talented players on tour now that he will not be missed at all. The $$s will still be there whether he ever plays again or not. #10 on the money list as of right now (early in the season, not even to summer yet) has made 1.3 million dollars. Golf is not hurting!!!!

Golf is getting crushed. Golfsmith in bankruptcy and Nike out of the equipment business are the latest examples. Tiger is the reason the purses are what they are and without him things will adjust a bit. Sure, they will still make a ton of money but you will likely never see the kind of growth the last 15 years have been again

[flywise]

Originally Posted by bdchorn

Golf is getting crushed. Golfsmith in bankruptcy and Nike out of the equipment business are the latest examples. Tiger is the reason the purses are what they are and without him things will adjust a bit. Sure, they will still make a ton of money but you will likely never see the kind of growth the last 15 years have been again

Jordan Spieth ring a bell? Spieth and a few up and comers will take the reigns and gold will be just fine with out Tiger.

He was a great pleasure to watch...at one time but its been quite awhile since he made any waves on the course

[bdchorn]

Originally Posted by flywise

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Jordan Spieth ring a bell? Spieth and a few up am comers will take the reigns and gold will be just fine with out Tiger.

He was a great pleasure to watch...at one time but its been quite awhile since he made any waves on the course

You're missing the point. I love Jordan but he doesn't even move the needle with manufacturers and consumers the way Tiger does/did. None of these guys do. No one ever has.

That's not my opinion. Its fact.

[Pacman70]

Originally Posted by bdchorn

You're missing the point. I love Jordan but he doesn't even move the needle with manufacturers and consumers the way Tiger does/did. None of these guys do. No one ever has.

That's not my opinion. Its fact.

This ^^^^^

And no one will ever influence the game the way he did ever again. Tiger created the largest influx in the golfing world the likes we will never see again. We all like Jordan, Ricky and Jason (just to name a few) however, Tiger is the reason these guys picked up the sticks.

[snappertapper]

Originally Posted by flywise

[/B]
Jordan Spieth ring a bell? Spieth and a few up and comers will take the reigns and gold will be just fine with out Tiger.

He was a great pleasure to watch...at one time but its been quite awhile since he made any waves on the course

I love Spieth, but he won't ever have the impact Tiger had on the game.

[flywise]

Originally Posted by snappertapper

I love Spieth, but he won't ever have the impact Tiger had on the game.

Yes he will
Theres no denying Tiger did more than anyone for golf. But Spieth and several others will as well and theres probably someone no one has ever heard of that will as well. Tiger's impact on golf is not in doubt but thinking someone else will not have that same impact is not living in reality.

[tradtiger]

Would love to see the man come back, be competitive and win the majors' record.

Never count him out. I mean, he won a U.S. Open with, basically, one leg tied behind his back. He is as mentally tough as they come.

[Cbb1722]

I'd rather hear them talk about Jordan speith and Phil mickleson and the others everyone likes. Never liked tiger just because of his attitude he gets and affects everyone around him and he won't hardly accept the fact that he just straight loses. It's always injury related to the loss. I'd rather watch the guys that make the game fun to watch and have fun doing it.

[jerp]

I believe golf is more interesting and exciting to watch when Tiger is good and in the mix on Sunday. It sure sounds like it could be really over for good this time. News today was his doctors told him he is not even healthy enough to fly across the country for a press conference for his own charity. I do agree however, that the golf press spends way too much time talking about him.

[Man]

Golf is a dying sport....they are struggling for anything to keep it afloat.
Expect to see many retailers getting out of the business here soon.

[coop2564]

Originally Posted by Man

Golf is a dying sport....they are struggling for anything to keep it afloat.
Expect to see many retailers getting out of the business here soon.

Unfortunately so is Hunting.

[tigerscowboy]

Originally Posted by coop2564

unfortunately so is hunting.

bamb!

[adam_p]

Originally Posted by Man

Golf is a dying sport....they are struggling for anything to keep it afloat.
Expect to see many retailers getting out of the business here soon.

Several contributing factors, but pace of play is horrendous and is damaging it for sure.

You see the the people on Golf channel talking about how we need to fix that, then the next show on is Michael Breed telling you how you need to take 56 practice swings, line it up, wiggle your ***, take 37 dufner waggles, then hit the ball. Then when you get on the green it is another song and dance before you putt. It is ridiculous.

I do everything I can to avoid metroplex golf courses for this reason. Last time I played Champions Circle in Ft Worth it took 6+ hours.

[ghostgoblin22]

Originally Posted by adam_p

Several contributing factors, but pace of play is horrendous and is damaging it for sure.

You see the the people on Golf channel talking about how we need to fix that, then the next show on is Michael Breed telling you how you need to take 56 practice swings, line it up, wiggle your ***, take 37 dufner waggles, then hit the ball. Then when you get on the green it is another song and dance before you putt. It is ridiculous.

I do everything I can to avoid metroplex golf courses for this reason. Last time I played Champions Circle in Ft Worth it took 6+ hours.

Twin lakes in canton, tx is the ticket, I live 20 mins from it....not too far from dallas, oh and I agree about the pace of play, everyone needs a routine but a long routine can work against you and can be frustrating for golfers in that group

[ghostgoblin22]

Originally Posted by adam_p

Several contributing factors, but pace of play is horrendous and is damaging it for sure.

You see the the people on Golf channel talking about how we need to fix that, then the next show on is Michael Breed telling you how you need to take 56 practice swings, line it up, wiggle your ***, take 37 dufner waggles, then hit the ball. Then when you get on the green it is another song and dance before you putt. It is ridiculous.

I do everything I can to avoid metroplex golf courses for this reason. Last time I played Champions Circle in Ft Worth it took 6+ hours.

Michael breed is a great teacher but some of the stuff he tries to implement for drills works *** backwards for newbies....almost like he's making crap up on the fly for the show....

[tigerscowboy]

Originally Posted by adam_p

Several contributing factors, but pace of play is horrendous and is damaging it for sure.

You see the the people on Golf channel talking about how we need to fix that, then the next show on is Michael Breed telling you how you need to take 56 practice swings, line it up, wiggle your ***, take 37 dufner waggles, then hit the ball. Then when you get on the green it is another song and dance before you putt. It is ridiculous.

I do everything I can to avoid metroplex golf courses for this reason. Last time I played Champions Circle in Ft Worth it took 6+ hours.

We play a round in 3 hours and work on the phone while we play (don't tee off on Saturdays). Highest handicap in our group is a 12 and lowest is a 3.

Term is called "Ready Golf".

[adam_p]

Originally Posted by tigerscowboy

We play a round in 3 hours and work on the phone while we play (don't tee off on Saturdays). Highest handicap in our group is a 12 and lowest is a 3.

Term is called "Ready Golf".

I think you missed the point. The round took over 6 hours because we had to wait for the groups in front of us for every shot.

[tigerscowboy]

Originally Posted by adam_p

I think you missed the point. The round took over 6 hours because we had to wait for the groups in front of us for every shot.

As I specified, we don't play on Sat.

We also don't shop (or go to malls) on Sat, Sun, or near holidays. If one doesn't like crowds, don't go where the population is congested.

[flywise]

When Tiger came on the scene golf was about as low as low gets.
It had to go up at some point. I'll agree that even though up was the only direction it could have gone Tiger took it higher than anyone could have expected. Tiger has not been relevant in 3 years and still the sport is gaining popularity year after year. There will most likely not be a giant rise like when Tiger showed up but thats only because its not in the swamp now like it was then

[MassMan]

Originally Posted by flywise

Tiger has not been relevant in 3 years and still the sport is gaining popularity year after year.

No, it isn't.

[bdchorn]

Originally Posted by flywise

When Tiger came on the scene golf was about as low as low gets.
It had to go up at some point. I'll agree that even though up was the only direction it could have gone Tiger took it higher than anyone could have expected. Tiger has not been relevant in 3 years and still the sport is gaining popularity year after year. There will most likely not be a giant rise like when Tiger showed up but thats only because its not in the swamp now like it was then

Sorry, but that's just false. Look up the National Golf Foundation..........I only know this because of my involvement with Golfsmith, but according the NGF, the number of golfers and rounds played has declined every year since 2010. Ironically, that's just after Tigers ex wrapped a 7 iron around his skull.

[Pkripper]

Originally Posted by flywise

When Tiger came on the scene golf was about as low as low gets.
It had to go up at some point. I'll agree that even though up was the only direction it could have gone Tiger took it higher than anyone could have expected. Tiger has not been relevant in 3 years and still the sport is gaining popularity year after year. There will most likely not be a giant rise like when Tiger showed up but thats only because its not in the swamp now like it was then

With 30 seconds of looking.
http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/...-golf-20150625
http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/pg...-golf-tailspin
http://www.cnbc.com/2014/07/24/golf-...professor.html