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Old 10-22-2021, 08:36 PM   #1
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Default Does this buck qualify as having an unbranched antler???

I want to know if you think I could legally tag this buck as having one unbranched antler? I'm thinking he has 3 beams and one of them is considered unbranched? Thoughts?
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:39 PM   #2
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No, but his widest point is greater than 13” so it would be your trophy
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:41 PM   #3
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Super Branched
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:44 PM   #4
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No.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:45 PM   #5
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Default Does this buck qualify as having an unbranched antler???

I think any antlered deer only has two antlers in the eyes of the game warden.


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Old 10-22-2021, 08:45 PM   #6
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He might be connected at the roots.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:45 PM   #7
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No, but easily 13”
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:50 PM   #8
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No, but his widest point is greater than 13” so it would be your trophy
The regs say that the 13" rule doesn't apply to a buck with an unbranched antler. Maybe i'm just interpreting it wrong.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:52 PM   #9
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Not unbranched but 13”. I’d wack’em just cause it’s cool.


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Old 10-22-2021, 08:53 PM   #10
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He might be connected at the roots.
Yea he may be. I can't get any closer pics of him. Was hoping that third antler was separate from that left beam. He's actually been missing for almost 1.5 months and just showed back up last night
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:55 PM   #11
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The regs say that the 13" rule doesn't apply to a buck with an unbranched antler. Maybe i'm just interpreting it wrong.
It means if he has an unbranched antler the 13” rule doesn’t apply. But he’s 13” so you all good!
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:05 PM   #12
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Lots of folks missing your point and question. If that beam comes from an independent pedicle, you can tag him as unbranched and still kill your other deer. I'm ccx afraid it is fused though.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:09 PM   #14
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:10 PM   #15
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Lots of folks missing your point and question. If that beam comes from an independent pedicle, you can tag him as unbranched and still kill your other deer. I'm ccx afraid it is fused though.
Thanks GG. That's what I was trying to ask lol.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:17 PM   #16
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Lots of folks missing your point and question. If that beam comes from an independent pedicle, you can tag him as unbranched and still kill your other deer. I'm ccx afraid it is fused though.

I do not think a game warden would let someone count this deer as an unbranched antler buck if they had already killed their 13” buck.




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Old 10-22-2021, 09:25 PM   #17
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I do not think a game warden would let someone count this deer as an unbranched antler buck if they had already killed their 13” buck.




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Maybe I'm just crazy or not understanding the regs correctly, but I'm thinking, per the definition in the handbook that I posted, you can tag that buck either way. He's wider than 13", but he also has an unbranched antler. Not sure how he a GW could dispute this based off the definition. Would love to have a GW clarify this.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:26 PM   #18
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I don’t see how he couldn’t! It has an unbranched antler, as long as that one in the middle does not have any point coming off of it that is 1” long! If that is a point on the right side of the spike(in the pic; left side on the deer) then that is branched.

OP, your deer is not unbranched!

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Old 10-22-2021, 09:29 PM   #19
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Maybe I'm just crazy or not understanding the regs correctly, but I'm thinking, per the definition in the handbook that I posted, you can tag that buck either way. He's wider than 13", but he also has an unbranched antler. Not sure how he a GW could dispute this based off the definition. Would love to have a GW clarify this.

Yea I guess the actual rule is “at least one unbranched antler”. Technically the deer I posted meets that I guess. They should probably change it to “at least one unbranched antler and at most one branched antler” to get rid of that loop hole.


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Old 10-22-2021, 09:31 PM   #20
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Definitely sharing a common base. Cool deer. Mature as well. Good luck sir.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:37 PM   #21
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:41 PM   #22
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Old 10-23-2021, 07:32 AM   #23
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Its irrelevant, that deer is 13" However,it sharing a base with the other antler I don't think so. Some of the resident GWs might sound off on this.
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Old 10-23-2021, 07:40 AM   #24
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Old 10-23-2021, 07:46 AM   #25
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Tag that deer as a spike and get ready for a big fat ticket. Not even close.
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Old 10-23-2021, 07:54 AM   #26
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I don’t see how he couldn’t! It has an unbranched antler, as long as that one in the middle does not have any point coming off of it that is 1” long! If that is a point on the right side of the spike(in the pic; left side on the deer) then that is branched.

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Legal, I think yes. Wait until you have a unicorn deer in the 150s getting a pass, until a lease member drags it in and checks off his spike tag. Happened to me last year and the deer had lots of potential at 4yrs.
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Old 10-23-2021, 09:45 AM   #27
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Lots of folks missing your point and question. If that beam comes from an independent pedicle, you can tag him as unbranched and still kill your other deer. I'm ccx afraid it is fused though.
I'm with GG. But not sure if it is actually a separate main beam.
I also think you are circumventing the intent of the rule, but it definitely needs to be re-written or clarified.
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Old 10-23-2021, 09:53 AM   #28
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Its irrelevant, that deer is 13" However,it sharing a base with the other antler I don't think so. Some of the resident GWs might sound off on this.
I don't think the resident GWs want to reveal who they are

But, I'm of the same opinion of GarGuy. I'd also shoot him as my trophy and not worry about anything else

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Old 10-23-2021, 01:06 PM   #29
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I don't think the resident GWs want to reveal who they are

But, I'm of the same opinion of GarGuy. I'd also shoot him as my trophy and not worry about anything else

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Unless he has already shot a trophy. Then it makes a world of difference!

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Old 10-23-2021, 01:18 PM   #30
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I think y'all are reading the regs wrong.

An unbranched antler makes it a legal buck, regardless of inside spread. You are not allowed to take more than 1 deer with an inside spread over 13" in AR counties under general regs.

A legal buck deer is defined as having a hardened antler protruding through the skin AND:
At least one unbranched antler; or
An inside spread measurement between main beams of 13 inches or greater.
Bag limit 2 bucks: No more than 1 buck may have an inside spread of 13 inches or greater. [In other words, one may harvest 1 buck with at least 1 unbranched antler and 1 buck with an inside spread of 13 inches or greater. Or, one may chose to harvest 2 bucks with at least 1 unbranched antler. BUT, one may NOT harvest 2 bucks with an inside spread of 13 inches or greater.]
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Old 10-23-2021, 01:48 PM   #31
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The answer to the ops question is, "NO". The buck in your picture does NOT have a "unbranched" antler. It does have a additional branch extending above the pedicle included on the same coronet as the main "left" beam. Like others have said, it would count as your "13 inch or greater buck" for that county. You could shoot him, but not shoot another 13"+ buck in the same county for this season.
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Old 10-23-2021, 05:58 PM   #32
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I would shoot him as my trophy and be deciding what pose I wanted at the Taxi. Yeah!!
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Old 10-23-2021, 06:19 PM   #33
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No branched x2
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Old 10-23-2021, 10:14 PM   #34
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Lots of folks missing your point and question. If that beam comes from an independent pedicle, you can tag him as unbranched and still kill your other deer. I'm ccx afraid it is fused though.


This ^^^^^^


Lots of y’all are missing the point. “If” this is an unbranched antlered buck then the OP can kill it as such, and also still shoot another buck over 13”.

It all depends on the base and you can’t tell 100% from those pics.

If I had to simply guess from what I see then I believe it branches off and can’t be killed as an unbranched deer.

I’d definitely shoot this one first before taking one over 13” and find out.
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Old 10-23-2021, 10:46 PM   #35
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You may only kill 1 deer with an inside spread over 13".

There are rules that allow you to kill a deer under 13" such as the unbranched antler.

You cant just say hey there's an unbranched antler so I get to shoot him and another deer over 13"

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Lots of y’all are missing the point. “If” this is an unbranched antlered buck then the OP can kill it as such, and also still shoot another buck over 13”.
Not according to the below.

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Bag limit 2 bucks: No more than 1 buck may have an inside spread of 13 inches or greater. [In other words, one may harvest 1 buck with at least 1 unbranched antler and 1 buck with an inside spread of 13 inches or greater. Or, one may chose to harvest 2 bucks with at least 1 unbranched antler. BUT, one may NOT harvest 2 bucks with an inside spread of 13 inches or greater.]
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Old 10-24-2021, 04:22 AM   #37
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Not according to the below.


I believe you are correct. Me and Garguy may be wrong in our thinking
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Old 10-24-2021, 08:00 AM   #38
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Not according to the below.
This here…..


Not that it matters, that additional beam branches off the main pedicure as the other main beam as well.
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Old 10-26-2021, 06:19 PM   #39
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Not sure if it matters, but this pic looks like the extra beam isn't fused with the other one when you zoom in..
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Old 10-26-2021, 06:29 PM   #40
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With 2 branched antlers and they are > 13 inches, I would think it would be a problem to try to go with 1 unbranched antler. But what do I know? I would not try it.
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