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Old 11-15-2022, 12:21 PM   #1
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Default Trespassing Cows. How neighborly should we be?

How many chances will you give a neighbor who can't keep his cows off your land(not a lease) before you call the Sheriff to send out some cowboys?

They are killing protein right now.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:23 PM   #2
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Mmm fresh steaks

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Old 11-15-2022, 12:24 PM   #3
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2 times, third call is to the sheriff.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:24 PM   #4
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In your situation, I'd call the owner and tell him he has 12 hours to remove the livestock or you are calling the sheriff. Chances are, the sheriff will come out and make the same phone call only also threaten fines. That usually works.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:25 PM   #5
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Need to check county regulations but it could be you're responsible for fencing them out of your property.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:27 PM   #6
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I called my sheriff when the livestock tore down my fences. Then I called the owner multiple times for them wandering on my property but when he didn't seem to prioritize collecting them, I called the sheriff.

Keep a record of their trespasses, too. It might come in handy when talking to the sheriff to show them how patient you've been. But, when the livestock is costing me real dollars by eating supplemental feed I put out, I have very low patience for timeliness.

And I am in a fence out county. The livestock owner is still responsible for damage his stock does.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:29 PM   #7
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Things happen. Tree limbs fall, wire breaks

If he ain’t doing anything to repair and is being lazy 3rd time will be enough action he will sell them or fix it. I have a zero tolerance policy for lazy people who won’t take care of their liabilities
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:33 PM   #8
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If you don't have cows, you could accidently, leave your front gate open.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:48 PM   #9
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Some counties in Texas are fence in. Others are fence out. Better check which you have.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:48 PM   #10
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Need to check county regulations but it could be you're responsible for fencing them out of your property.


Yep
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:49 PM   #11
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I would contact the owner first. If they don’t get them then contact the sheriffs office
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:51 PM   #12
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I'd just go find the hole and fix it. Be done with it.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:52 PM   #13
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Pretty sure in Tx it’s your responsibility to fence them out .
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:52 PM   #14
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I would contact the owner first. If they don’t get them then contact the sheriffs office
Been trying for over a week this time.

I dont blame the cows at all. Our grass is long, ungrazed and protein feeders are full(well were full)
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:53 PM   #15
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Pretty sure in Tx it’s your responsibility to fence them out .
No. Only certain counties. In fence in counties, owner is responsible for damage their livestock causes.

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Old 11-15-2022, 12:55 PM   #16
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Are there multiple fence issues or one spot that is bad? A quick fence repair could save you lots of headache.

As mentioned many counties in Texas are fence out counties so if you don’t repair fences there isn’t anything the sheriff can do.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:56 PM   #17
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Been trying for over a week this time.

I dont blame the cows at all. Our grass is long, ungrazed and protein feeders are full(well were full)


I’d make the call now then
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:57 PM   #18
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Shoot one. I bet it stops real quick.

Also, don't take my advice, because it's terrible.
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Old 11-15-2022, 12:59 PM   #19
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No. Only certain counties.
Yep Texas Supreme Court over turned that common law of fence out

I would run them out and fix the fence and document the occurrence for the other owner and sheriffs department
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:02 PM   #20
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Shoot ‘em on the spot. Every stinking one of them.
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:03 PM   #21
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Shoot ‘em on the spot. Every stinking one of them.
Maybe one.....I dont have the freezer space for the other 5.

You want one? I'll sell you a "wild" cow hunt for cheap!
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:06 PM   #22
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In your situation, I'd call the owner and tell him he has 12 hours to remove the livestock or you are calling the sheriff. Chances are, the sheriff will come out and make the same phone call only also threaten fines. That usually works.

Sheriff’s office here will load them up and take them to the auction barn and send the owners a check . That’s if it a know and documented problem.
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:15 PM   #23
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Sheriff’s office here will load them up and take them to the auction barn and send the owners a check . That’s if it a know and documented problem.
Minus handling fees!
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:30 PM   #24
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Minus handling fees!
Had the same issue, only with neighbors pigs. Last straw when the wife was leaving the house at night and this was standing on the back patio.

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Old 11-15-2022, 01:35 PM   #25
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Had the same issue, only with neighbors pigs. Last straw when the wife was leaving the house at night and this was standing on the back patio.

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He's got a lot of balls trespassing like that! Literally and figuratively
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:37 PM   #26
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Had the same issue, only with neighbors pigs. Last straw when the wife was leaving the house at night and this was standing on the back patio.

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Nuts ,I say
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:39 PM   #27
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Looks like a wild Russian boar too me….
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:40 PM   #28
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How many chances will you give a neighbor who can't keep his cows off your land(not a lease) before you call the Sheriff to send out some cowboys?

They are killing protein right now.
We have this same issue up in Oklahoma, we don't have protein out and the cows don't stay by the corn feeders for very long but their crap by the cabin/fire pit area gets annoying. We are trying to be nice to the neighbor since he lives up there and we are the "out of towners". Tricky situation
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:43 PM   #29
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I’d give them one day to remove them if they come back I’m not going to bother helping I’m just going to load up and haul off
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:50 PM   #30
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Minus handling fees!

That’s a fact . I know the cowboys they normally use . They get paid .
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Old 11-15-2022, 01:58 PM   #31
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I'd just go find the hole and fix it. Be done with it.
Bingo. In most cases, nothing a cattle panel or two can't fix. If in fact that easy, just fix it and move on. At the same time, could be an easy foot in the door to more hunting land if you played it right. Known several that took this approach and ended up with some good new spots.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:20 PM   #32
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We had an issue with cows showing up and no holes in fence found. Went to run them out and low and behold they ran right to the gate, humm....
Someone may be letting them in.

Sheriff is the call to make.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:29 PM   #33
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We had a 2500 lb bull running around our lease for a couple of weeks a few years ago. That was a big spike.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:31 PM   #34
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https://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/file...click-here.pdf

This is very helpful... and it looks like some of yall definitely need to read it.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:38 PM   #35
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Shoot ‘em on the spot. Every stinking one of them.
do not do this,, buddy of mine found out through the pocket book,,, and his brother is a Judge,,,
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:43 PM   #36
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My moms cousin had this problem years a go with a bull that kept jumping the fence. He would call the owner and eventually the owner would come get it. But it kept happening over and over so my moms cousin penned the bull and sold it. He got arrested for cattle theft.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:56 PM   #37
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How bad is the fence? Maybe its time to ask the neighbor if he would want to split the cost for a new fence.
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Old 11-15-2022, 02:56 PM   #38
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Sheriff’s office here will load them up and take them to the auction barn and send the owners a check . That’s if it a know and documented problem.

Dang! That’s a hell of a deal for the cattle owner. You don’t have to do anything to get your cattle to auction except open a piece of fence.


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Old 11-15-2022, 03:12 PM   #39
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If you shoot it or sell the cattle you will go to jail for sure.

Call the neighbor and ask them to get them. If they drag their feet give them a specific time line like 24 hrs.

If it's not still not moving call the sheriff and ask them what the next step would be.

I would not be afraid to mention casually to both that you do not have cattle so there may be things on the property that would be harmful and that you are making both aware.




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Old 11-15-2022, 03:18 PM   #40
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In the drought that we are in.

If you have grass and your neighbors don't, it will be hard to keep the cattle out, no matter how good the fences are.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:19 PM   #41
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If you shoot it or sell the cattle you will go to jail for sure.
Not necessarily. You have to get caught first.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:26 PM   #42
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How many times? One or two, depending.

Two if the livestock owner is generally responsible with his livestock, fences, and maintains adequate pastures or feed for his animals; if he is readily available for your outreach and immediately responsive to your concerns; and if he takes immediate steps to prevent the intrusion from occurring again.

One If the livestock owner is neglectful with respect to any of the items listed above.

I wouldn’t wait too much longer to call the Sherrif as I would think you would want to establish a record if the problem becomes habitual.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:39 PM   #43
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Run'em out the gate, fix the fence.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:42 PM   #44
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Check this website. It seems helpful.

https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/u...-BY-COUNTY.pdf
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:43 PM   #45
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Man I would hate to run cattle next to some of yall. Our cows occasionally get out and we go find the problem and fix it. Our neighbors cows occasionally get into our pasture and we let them know.

Heck we raised 3 long horns for months while the neighbor got his fences in line. He provided the cubes for us monthly.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:47 PM   #46
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Man I would hate to run cattle next to some of yall. Our cows occasionally get out and we go find the problem and fix it. Our neighbors cows occasionally get into our pasture and we let them know.

Heck we raised 3 long horns for months while the neighbor got his fences in line. He provided the cubes for us monthly.
Most people talk tougher online than what they would do in real life.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:53 PM   #47
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City boy question here......... If it is the landowners responsibility to build a fence to keep neighbors cattle out then how is it not tresspassing when said neighbor decides it is time to take the cattle to the auction and they have to go get the cattle from the neighbors land?

I guess asked a simpler way if your neighbors livestock is on your land because they didnt want to come up with a way to keep them contained how are those then not your cattle?

Obviously I know nothing about the livestock business.
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Old 11-15-2022, 03:56 PM   #48
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Man I would hate to run cattle next to some of yall. Our cows occasionally get out and we go find the problem and fix it. Our neighbors cows occasionally get into our pasture and we let them know.

Heck we raised 3 long horns for months while the neighbor got his fences in line. He provided the cubes for us monthly.
Was thinking the same thing. Most of the questionable comments are probably from weekend warrior land leasers, not owners.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:05 PM   #49
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Man I would hate to run cattle next to some of yall. Our cows occasionally get out and we go find the problem and fix it. Our neighbors cows occasionally get into our pasture and we let them know.

Heck we raised 3 long horns for months while the neighbor got his fences in line. He provided the cubes for us monthly.
None of that seems to be happening in this case. The OP is feeding the neighbors cows, and the neighbor knows it and is taking advantage of the situation.
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Old 11-15-2022, 04:30 PM   #50
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None of that seems to be happening in this case. The OP is feeding the neighbor cows, and the neighbor knows it and is taking advantage of the situation.
My last message to the neighbor was a picture of the cows eating out of the protein feeder with the message "You should find them here, eating protein". That was last Thursday.
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