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Old 11-13-2022, 10:25 PM   #1
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Need input from folks with F250 gas experience. Iíve officially convinced myself I donít need a diesel no matter how much I want one and Iím in the market for a 2017 or newer F250. Any common issues with these trucks? Things to look for?


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Old 11-13-2022, 10:30 PM   #2
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Horrible gas mileage on the 6.2
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Old 11-13-2022, 10:31 PM   #3
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My dad has a 2018. Think it’s the 6.2. Believe he averages 13ish MPG. Zero issues with the truck so far though.
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Horrible gas mileage on the 6.2
I have 63,000 miles on my 2017 F350 with the 6.2 gas engine. My life to date mileage is 12.3 mpg. Over that mileage I have hauled my truck camper quite a bit and pulled my ATV trailer.

When empty running on the highway I get between 14 and 15 mpg. Sometimes a little higher and if bucking the wind a little less.

I am not unhappy at all with my mileage on this truck. After all, it is a 1 ton crew cab 4x4.

I have not had any problems but did replace my battery about 4 months ago. Nice thing about the gas engine is that they just run meaning they are very reliable.

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Old 11-13-2022, 10:38 PM   #5
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Horrible gas mileage on the 6.2

Yeah Iím aware mileage isnít good on these trucks, but I have a company truck I spend 40-60 hours a week in so my personal vehicle may only see the road for just a few hours a week unless Iím going out of town.


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Old 11-13-2022, 10:42 PM   #6
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bought my 18 fx4 crew in 17. Zero issues. I have the 4.10 rear end. Empty get about 13, with a 16' trailer and SxS or similar load 10. Pulling 14K 5th wheel, 6.5-8 depending on hills
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2017 F250 gasser. Zero problems. I used to get 13/14 before I put a levelling kit and 35s. Now 12 is the best. But I don't put a lot of miles on it.

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20 f250 work truck 13mpg 2wd
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Old 11-13-2022, 11:08 PM   #9
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I had a 17í 350 6.7 diesel until earlier this year. Now Iíve got a 22í 7.3 F-250. I was a bit hesitant on the gasser at first, but I donít regret it at all. Thereís no lack of power with the truck, and I actually prefer it to a stock diesel in stop and go traffic. I only pull 5K-8K these days, and might hit 10K once a year. The 7.3 gasser is perfect for that type of use. 14-15 mpg on the highway, and 10ish. pulling.
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Old 11-13-2022, 11:34 PM   #10
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2020 F250 FX4 with 6.2. 14 on Hiway if I dont if I can keep under 75 and not much traffic. Tows boat great, hauls all the gear for hunting trips nice, etc. Granted I miss my F150 but it is all about tradeoffs.
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Old 11-14-2022, 05:20 AM   #11
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Anybody have a 7.3 gasser with a 3.55 rear end. Will it do a good job of pulling a 14,000 pound trailer?
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Old 11-14-2022, 06:01 AM   #12
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I have a 2021 7.3 and it pulls my 7000# travel trailer great. I used to pull it with a F150 ecoboost and the sway was terrible. The F250 eliminated that completely. Can run 75 mph no problem.
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:39 AM   #13
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Shop trucks at work have always been gasser 250s. They get abused and driven pedal to the metal, beat up, raced etc.. I don’t think I recall any issues out of them since They went to them in 2012ish.. they do get replaced around 120-150k though and they also get everything maintenance that the owners manual says to do.. i can’t speak for long term since they never stick around past 150k. My grandpas company buys Chevy gassers and have a bunch they run until around 300k with very minimal small issues mostly..
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Old 11-14-2022, 07:57 AM   #14
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Horrible gas mileage on the 6.2

Yes but diesel has been running a $1.25 or so higher for a good while now. Plus the r engine is another $10k in the price of the truck. Hard to justify if you really donít need. This coming from a guy driving a 22 diesel currently. Iím really 2nd guessing my decision lol.
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Old 11-14-2022, 08:19 AM   #15
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My 2011 F250 (bought new in April 2011) with a 6.2 has 207k on it, and it’s never given me any problems. Mileage is around 14 highway and 12 around town which I don’t think is horrible, because my 2011 Chevy 1500 with a v6 only gets 16.

If I was buying a F250 or 350 today, I would go with the 7.3 gas motor. From the experience of some friends that RV full time, it’s got a lot more power than the 6.2 with about the same mileage.

Edit to add. I’ve owned 8 diesel trucks over the last 30 years, and I seriously doubt I will ever own another.

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Old 11-14-2022, 09:05 AM   #16
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I was going to make the swap to a ford gas . When I got my diesel I couldnít find a gas truck . I ended up with. Ford diesel. Been running a duramax since early 2000ís .
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Old 11-14-2022, 09:38 AM   #17
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7.3L 1 ton LWB 4x4 gasser with the 3.73 rear end.

14-15 mpg at 75-80mph

9.x mpg pulling just about anything from a two horse bumper pull to hauling our skidsteer.


No lack of power, has been great for us. Have put 24k on it since July 1. Smooth comfortable, easiest driving truck Iíve ever owned.


I did some math yesterday over a friends diesel getting 19 mpg at $4.50/gallon.. heís paying 23.6 cents per mile In fuel. 14 mpg at $2.95 Iím only paying 20.8 cent per mile in fuel. And no def.


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Old 11-14-2022, 09:57 AM   #18
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Anybody have a 7.3 gasser with a 3.55 rear end. Will it do a good job of pulling a 14,000 pound trailer?


I have a 2022 with the 7.3 and 3:55. It pulls my 7500lb travel trailer with us loaded down just fine. The 10 speed is shifty in the mountains and hills, but you can lock out gears you know you won’t need. I have no regrets going from my 2019 6.7 diesel to this truck, for the amount of driving and pulling I do with it. I would do the 4:30 if I had it to do all over again. It might prevent some of the shifting while pulling. The truck is a beast. I get about 13-14 on the highway and about 9 pulling with 35s.

Ford has a new 6.8 gasser on the 2023 to replace the 6.2 which they are no longer making.

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Old 11-14-2022, 10:02 AM   #19
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I have a 2022 with the 7.3 and 3:55. It pulls my 7500lb travel trailer with us loaded down just fine. The 10 speed is shifty in the mountains and hills, but you can lock out gears you know you wonít need. I have no regrets going from my 2019 6.7 diesel to this truck, for the amount of driving and pulling I do with it. I would do the 4:30 if I had it to do all over again. It might prevent some of the shifting while pulling. The truck is a beast. I get about 13-14 on the highway and about 9 pulling with 35s.

Ford has a new 6.8 gasser on the 2023 to replace the 6.2 which they are no longer making.

I will also do the 4.30ís on my next one


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Old 11-14-2022, 10:05 AM   #20
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Spend 60-100k on a truck and worried about 2 cents a mile. Doesnít make any sense. You guys ought to do a useage comparison of your travel trailer cost per use and then just sell that thing off and stay at a hotel because itíll be cheaper. And then you could buy a Yaris or whatever and get really great mileage. Iím saying this to be funny not be a jerk fyi. Itís just that doesnít make any sense.
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Old 11-14-2022, 10:18 AM   #21
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I have 63,000 miles on my 2017 F350 with the 6.2 gas engine. My life to date mileage is 12.3 mpg. Over that mileage I have hauled my truck camper quite a bit and pulled my ATV trailer.

When empty running on the highway I get between 14 and 15 mpg. Sometimes a little higher and if bucking the wind a little less.

I am not unhappy at all with my mileage on this truck. After all, it is a 1 ton crew cab 4x4.

I have not had any problems but did replace my battery about 4 months ago. Nice thing about the gas engine is that they just run meaning they are very reliable.

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Mine is a 2019 with a 6.2, almost 100K on it. I replaced an F150 that got 20 mpg on the road AND an F350 6.4 flatbed. I only put 3500 to 5000 miles a year on that F350 and couldnít justify it sitting there all year for that.

My F250 gets about 14.5 mpg on the road and less than 10 moving my tractor. Fortunately, I only move my tractor a few times a year to my lease or my sonís place, neither which is very far. I drove V10s for years so Iím quite familiar with poor mileage but it is what it is. Itís still much cheaper to operate than a diesel. I fully expect this to be the truck Iím driving when I give up the ghost. My only gripe with itÖÖ.itís too **** far from the ground, hard for an old fat man to get in and out of !
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Spend 60-100k on a truck and worried about 2 cents a mile. Doesnít make any sense. You guys ought to do a useage comparison of your travel trailer cost per use and then just sell that thing off and stay at a hotel because itíll be cheaper. And then you could buy a Yaris or whatever and get really great mileage. Iím saying this to be funny not be a jerk fyi. Itís just that doesnít make any sense.
You think that doesnít make any sense yet you think driving a diesel does when not needed does? Glad I donít subscribe to that ďsenseĒ of thinking.
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Old 11-14-2022, 12:09 PM   #23
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I have a 2018 6.2 and really like it. Only one issue occured and that was a spark plug and distributor issue. It was covered in warranty. I will say that it pulls my tractor better at 80 mph than it does at 70 mph. I mostly run up I45 (NW to Fairfield) and at 70 it constantly hits 4 rpms shifting gears going up hill. If you run 80, you build enough momentum that it doesnt drop shift as much saving you some mpg.
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Spend 60-100k on a truck and worried about 2 cents a mile. Doesnít make any sense. You guys ought to do a useage comparison of your travel trailer cost per use and then just sell that thing off and stay at a hotel because itíll be cheaper. And then you could buy a Yaris or whatever and get really great mileage. Iím saying this to be funny not be a jerk fyi. Itís just that doesnít make any sense.

.03 a mile on 60-70k miles a year is a pretty big saving for me, without the extra spend of 10k for a diesel motor plus def and cost to do oil changes.. itís adds up when the truck does the same job with no shortcomings.

Canít compare it to a Honda because Hondas canít haul my oilfield tools on a daily basis. And I do sleep in my truck more than I sleep in a hotel we did however sell off the RV for exactly what you mentioned.


OP I think your on the right track with a ford gasser, we have run a lot of them at various companies Iíve been at, and this new 7.3 is a good one for someone who will do some intermittent heavy towing


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Old 11-14-2022, 12:24 PM   #26
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You think that doesnít make any sense yet you think driving a diesel does when not needed does? Glad I donít subscribe to that ďsenseĒ of thinking.
No, he's saying the difference in owning a gas vs diesel is negligible, but people act like it's $50 bucks a day. Then the same people buy a $60,000 travel trailer to vacation in, when it would be 10X cheaper to stay in a hotel.


I'd hate to live my life by a calculator...
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Old 11-14-2022, 12:47 PM   #27
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My dad has a 2018. Think itís the 6.2. Believe he averages 13ish MPG. Zero issues with the truck so far though.
Same experience for me on the 2018 F250 gasser.
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You think that doesnít make any sense yet you think driving a diesel does when not needed does? Glad I donít subscribe to that ďsenseĒ of thinking.

No Iím saying for $2000 a year at 60,000 miles the difference in gas cost is negligible. Especially when youíre spending that much on a truck already. I mean I get different strokes for different folks.

That being said a way better argument would be the extra $12,000 for the diesel or whatever it is. The mileage thing just doesnít make sense.

I could give a rats rear end how other people spend their money. Just saying that mileage argument doesnít make sense.
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i get 13.9mpg on my 2016 6.7 so it's about the same but diesel is a lot more expensive + Def
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My 2011 F250 (bought new in April 2011) with a 6.2 has 207k on it, and itís never given me any problems. Mileage is around 14 highway and 12 around town which I donít think is horrible, because my 2011 Chevy 1500 with a v6 only gets 16.

If I was buying a F250 or 350 today, I would go with the 7.3 gas motor. From the experience of some friends that RV full time, itís got a lot more power than the 6.2 with about the same mileage.

Edit to add. Iíve owned 8 diesel trucks over the last 30 years, and I seriously doubt I will ever own another.
If you tow a lot you will regret it! There just isnít any close comparison ! The diesels are built to pull.
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If you tow a lot you will regret it! There just isnít any close comparison ! The diesels are built to pull.
Had 3 diesels before the EPA ruined them. Dont miss them and haul the same loads with the 7.3. The 7.3 also has a higher tow capacity than the 6.7 so theres that.
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Had 3 diesels before the EPA ruined them. Dont miss them and haul the same loads with the 7.3. The 7.3 also has a higher tow capacity than the 6.7 so theres that.
Lol- they are dawgs compared to a 6.7! They wonít get out of the way of their Own shadow if needed with a load! But they are awesome going Down hill

I like the 7.3 but if I towed often I would not purchase one after going on three trips in a 1 ton equipped with that motor. They sound great when you have to get on it but they just donít move. It is what it is!
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If you tow a lot you will regret it! There just isnít any close comparison ! The diesels are built to SELL !
Fixed it ! Youíre welcome !
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Fixed it ! Youíre welcome !
Lol! I think that people that are exploring this option need to know the truth Especially if they are in a diesel now! Once youíve made your purchase itís too late then!

But if theyíve never towed with a diesel they wonít know the difference now will they ?
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No Iím saying for $2000 a year at 60,000 miles the difference in gas cost is negligible. Especially when youíre spending that much on a truck already. I mean I get different strokes for different folks.

That being said a way better argument would be the extra $12,000 for the diesel or whatever it is. The mileage thing just doesnít make sense.

I could give a rats rear end how other people spend their money. Just saying that mileage argument doesnít make sense.
Yeah the mileage savings is negligible for sure, and itís only been of recent. A year ago a diesel was cheaper to drive mile for mile if you didnít account fro the upfront expense or repairs.
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If you tow a lot you will regret it! There just isnít any close comparison ! The diesels are built to pull.
Thanks for your opinion, but after 11 years of towing with it, I absolutely donít regret it. I actually tow a lot with my truck and even occasionally use it haul my 14k lb skid steer and brush mower. It does just fine.

As I said, Iíve owned 8 diesels, so you canít tell me anything about towing with a diesel I donít know. What I definitely do know is that upkeep has been a lot less on the gas truck than any diesel truck Iíve owned.

My F550 has a v10 in it, and itís been a problem free truck too.
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I put close to 250k miles on an f250 6.2 gasser and never had an issue with it. Traded in in on a Dodge with the 6.4 Hemi and haven’t had issues with it either. I routinely pull a 3 horse 19’ living quarters trailer with it and it has never missed a beat.

My father in law has a f250 with the 6.2 in it he has 80k on it and he hasn’t had any issues with his either.
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Lol! I think that people that are exploring this option need to know the truth Especially if they are in a diesel now! Once youíve made your purchase itís too late then!

But if theyíve never towed with a diesel they wonít know the difference now will they ?
Iíve towed plenty with a diesel and now my 7.3, and donít regret it one bit. I despise driving a stock diesel 90% of the time unloaded a lot more than I do towing with a 7.3 10% of the time lol I can take a nap between the time you press the pedal and wait for the truck to build boost so the dam truck will actually move lol
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If you tow a lot you will regret it! There just isnít any close comparison ! The diesels are built to pull.

I think the gas F250ís are built for people who need power to haul but donít have to haul as often or as much weight per se. Kind of the middle ground. I know personally I wonít ever max out the towing capacity of a gas F250 but when I have to pull a side by side to Junction I donít want to get shoved down hill or stomp on it to go up hill at 50mph. Also the slightly larger cab is a huge plus for me.


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I drove a cummins for the past 10 years. In June I went with a 2022 chevrolet with their new 6.6 gas engine. I've got 10,000 miles now and I have no regrets in going this route. Gas is way cheaper than diesel and I can easily get 17 mpg at 70 to 75. It pulls our 8k camper well. It pulls best in 5th gear at about 2000 rpms.
Down side is it only has a 6 speed transmission. The 2024's will have the 10 speed allison.
I know this is off topic since you asked about a ford. Just giving my 2 cents on a hd gasser in general. With a gas engine I believe that gearing is important so I would pay attention to this if you plan to tow much.
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Lol! I think that people that are exploring this option need to know the truth Especially if they are in a diesel now! Once youíve made your purchase itís too late then!

But if theyíve never towed with a diesel they wonít know the difference now will they ?
I have had several diesels and I have no regrets on going with the 7.3. It is different all together but it is not the same gutless gassers of the past. World of difference and fully capable.
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Old 11-14-2022, 03:29 PM   #42
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Thanks for your opinion, but after 11 years of towing with it, I absolutely donít regret it. I actually tow a lot with my truck and even occasionally use it haul my 14k lb skid steer and brush mower. It does just fine.

As I said, Iíve owned 8 diesels, so you canít tell me anything about towing with a diesel I donít know. What I definitely do know is that upkeep has been a lot less on the gas truck than any diesel truck Iíve owned.

My F550 has a v10 in it, and itís been a problem free truck too.
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Iíve towed plenty with a diesel and now my 7.3, and donít regret it one bit. I despise driving a stock diesel 90% of the time unloaded a lot more than I do towing with a 7.3 10% of the time lol I can take a nap between the time you press the pedal and wait for the truck to build boost so the dam truck will actually move lol
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I have had several diesels and I have no regrets on going with the 7.3. It is different all together but it is not the same gutless gassers of the past. World of difference and fully capable.
Yee yee on all 3

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Old 11-14-2022, 03:31 PM   #43
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I have had several diesels and I have no regrets on going with the 7.3. It is different all together but it is not the same gutless gassers of the past. World of difference and fully capable.
I agree with this. The new hd gas engines are way different than the early 2000's. Are they equal to a diesel, no. But they most definitely have their place.
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Old 11-14-2022, 03:32 PM   #44
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Towing capacity is an arbitrary number dreamed up by engineers, and the likes of the DOTÖ. Ignore that number entirely for the purposes of this discussion.


I have a good friend who we camp and vacation with who bought a 7.3 gas f250 with 3.73 rear end. He had a ~8,000lb TT and the first trip we pulled them to Corpus, and it quit on him with faulty plug wires, and a couple coil packs, and spent nearly a month in Robstown. A few months later it spit the transmission pulling his kubota 75SVL skid steer around town. Several months later it grenaded another transmission, which he had to fight ford to warranty and replace with the newer trans with the better whatever they supposed to solve the problem with. He bought a ~11,000lb 5th wheel and in March we took the campers to the Palo Duro and fought a headwind all the way there, he got mileage in the 5s, and kept it on the floor the whole way in 6th or 7th to run 75-78 or so. In July we took the campers to New Braunfels, and I finally just had to drive off because I was tired of waiting on him to try to climb hills, even coming home with a tail wind. The truck quit on him again 20 miles from home on that trip. In total I think it left he and his family on the side of the road 4 times and had to be towed in, and he had to arrange for the trailer to be towed.

He sold it back to the dealership and went and bought a new diesel, which of course he reports is 10X better to pull with and more comfortable without the engine turning 3,000 all the time.

We towed the campers probably 3000 miles or so together over the last couple years, and that 7.3 is not comparable to a diesel, unless you are content to baby it all the time and drive 65-70. Itís just not.

I own an F550 with the 7.3 gasser, and 4.30 gears, and it has largely been trouble free aside from plug wires and rear seals/brakes, but I canít really compare it to a regular pickup, pulling wise.


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Iíve towed plenty with a diesel and now my 7.3, and donít regret it one bit. I despise driving a stock diesel 90% of the time unloaded a lot more than I do towing with a 7.3 10% of the time lol I can take a nap between the time you press the pedal and wait for the truck to build boost so the dam truck will actually move lol
Thatís got to be unloaded in the 7.3!!! Youíre just in Denial! You must be talking about a very old diesel waiting for boost!
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7.3L 1 ton LWB 4x4 gasser with the 3.73 rear end.

14-15 mpg at 75-80mph

9.x mpg pulling just about anything from a two horse bumper pull to hauling our skidsteer.


No lack of power, has been great for us. Have put 24k on it since July 1. Smooth comfortable, easiest driving truck Iíve ever owned.


I did some math yesterday over a friends diesel getting 19 mpg at $4.50/gallon.. heís paying 23.6 cents per mile In fuel. 14 mpg at $2.95 Iím only paying 20.8 cent per mile in fuel. And no def.


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Honestly, never bought a vehicle for the MPG period!
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That’s got to be unloaded in the 7.3!!! You’re just in Denial! You must be talking about a very old diesel waiting for boost!
Well I came from a tuned 17’ 6.7 350, and hated the 20-21’ super dutie 6.7s I test drove as well as the 21 6.6 Duramax. Just cause you can’t comprehend it right doesn’t mean it wasn’t worded properly

My 17’ sucked to drive too until it was tuned.
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Well I came from a tuned 17í 6.7 350, and hated the 20-21í super dutie 6.7s I test drove as well as the 21 6.6 Duramax. Just cause you canít comprehend it right doesnít mean it wasnít worded properly

My 17í sucked to drive too until it was tuned.
My comperhension ar broke most of the time

I will say that the 7.3ís are quiet - they have that going for them
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I don't know how many threads I have read over the years on this topic and the arguments for and against gas/diesel are always the same.
With the cost of these trucks today in addition to fuel costs, if you are worried about mileage you probably should be driving an economy car.
Anecdotal evidence just based on friends who do drive diesels, 90% of them rarely tow heavy enough or frequently enough to need a diesel. The 10% who do, really need them and benefit from the advantages.
The other 90% just want to drive a diesel and if that is how they want to spend their money then thats great.

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Old 11-14-2022, 05:32 PM   #50
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Nobody will ever convince you guys that are in love with diesels. Some of you have need for them, some don’t, but you can’t argue the numbers. Well, you can, but it won’t hold up. I took my V10s to close to 200K before I traded them and never had a wrench on any of them, that’s five F250s and two Excursions. I take that back, I had a coil pack fail on one Excursion. Think about how much money I saved on the initial prices alone, not to mention the high price of oil changes, fuel filters, etc. Diesels just cost too much for the gain unless you’re towing much of the time. I never hooked to anything I couldn’t pull with authority ! I only hope the 6.2 I have will last like the V 10s did, I’m still ****** at Ford for dropping that engine in the F250s.
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