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Old 01-28-2020, 12:33 PM   #501
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Face saving, and experience. Dusty is a very experienced, old school baseball man, who is HIGHLY respected around the game. He will know how to handle a lot of the odd issues they will face on the road due to the cheating scandal.
..cant win in post season
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Old 01-28-2020, 12:37 PM   #502
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Maybe the plan is give him a xbox comtroller, RBI 2019.. and let him play with that in the dugout and let the boys get him a ring.
That makes sense.
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..cant win in post season
That's a throw away line for talking heads, can Espada win in the post season? The fact that we know Baker's resume in the post season isn't great, proves he's adept at getting them there, that's what they need to worry about for now. He knows the National League game as well as anyone. At some point the players have to play, and I bet his players weren't as good as the ones that beat them.
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That's a throw away line for talking heads, can Espada win in the post season? The fact that we know Baker's resume in the post season isn't great, proves he's adept at getting them there, that's what they need to worry about for now. He knows the National League game as well as anyone. At some point the players have to play, and I bet his players weren't as good as the ones that beat them.
Not a "throw away line" if its a "fact".

Might be some truth to the second part of your post though.

Time will tell.. hell..its not even official yet
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Interesting... the Senior VP of Baseball Operations with MLB..is a "candidate" for the astros gm job...
She was a candidate during the search that found Luhnow. If I remember correctly at the time, she was a hotter GM candidate than Luhnow and possibly withdrew her name from contention as the GM spot for a horrible team with a barren minor league system and a highly leveraged owner was not something that the hot names of the day were pining for.
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That sounds like they just wanted a steady hand at the wheel, while they groom someone for next year, or buy time to find the long term guy. I can't see that club not employing extreme shifts, and analytical strategy.
This is what I’m hoping
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That's a throw away line for talking heads, can Espada win in the post season? The fact that we know Baker's resume in the post season isn't great, proves he's adept at getting them there, that's what they need to worry about for now. He knows the National League game as well as anyone. At some point the players have to play, and I bet his players weren't as good as the ones that beat them.
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She was a candidate during the search that found Luhnow. If I remember correctly at the time, she was a hotter GM candidate than Luhnow and possibly withdrew her name from contention as the GM spot for a horrible team with a barren minor league system and a highly leveraged owner was not something that the hot names of the day were pining for.
She? Her name is peter Woodfork?
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Not a "throw away line" if its a "fact".
It's not a fact.


"He hasn't won in the post season" is a fact...and that fact is dependent on about 2 million factors outside his control.

"He can't win in the post season" is a throwaway line, based on opinion.
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If Baker is willing to embrace analytics and the Astros system of doing things and isn't bound too tightly to tradition in regards to bullpen usage and defensive shifts, he is a very good candidate.

The one thing that worries me about Baker (even above bullpen usage, shifting, and analytics) is his reputation for running up pitch counts on his starters. The Astros need to come up with a system that allows Greinke, Verlander and McCullers to be healthy and reasonably rested coming in to the post season for them to have some chance at beating the Yankees.
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If he hasnt... then to date.. he has shown beyond a reasonable doubt..that he cant.

Fact.
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She? Her name is peter Woodfork?
I thought you were referring to Kim Ng.

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If he hasnt... then to date.. he has shown beyond a reasonable doubt..that he cant.

Fact.
"To date"......




I'm going to leave this bull**** to the rest of you.....
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"To date"......









I'm going to leave this bull**** to the rest of you.....
Bye.
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Looking like Dusty is the guy. Go along the deal. Finally saw another reporter confirm.


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Looking like Dusty is the guy. Go along the deal. Finally saw another reporter confirm.


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He confirmed they were working a deal.
But yeh.. looking like it will be him.
Honestly..just glad to move on.. cmon ST..
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This is disappointing. He’s a 70 year old retread manager, has stated before he is an old school manager and doesn’t embrace the new sabermetrics style analysis, has a history of over using starters and ruining their careers, and has a 23-32 postseason record for a .418 winning percentage
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Dusty Baker. Hahahahahahahaha
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I mean in their defense, who worth a crap would want to be a part of the **** show?!
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I'll take someone that wants a ring for $1000, Alex.
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I mean in their defense, who worth a crap would want to be a part of the **** show?!
You misspelled another World Series
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I mean in their defense, who worth a crap would want to be a part of the **** show?!
Are you this miserable in real life?
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Are you this miserable in real life?
No. I’m a baller in real life. You know this. And I go to Astros spring training, lots of games, have a friend who was on the team, etc. Just don’t mind calling a spade a spade, not a sheep fan. It’s a total **** show right now. They couldn’t get a manger worth a **** to even look at them.

So tell me about your “real life”.
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Are you this miserable in real life?
Ps. Nice flags flying. Ryan did good letting you reel those in. LoL
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No. I’m a baller in real life. You know this. And I go to Astros spring training, lots of games, have a friend who was on the team, etc. Just don’t mind calling a spade a spade, not a sheep fan. It’s a total **** show right now. They couldn’t get a manger worth a **** to even look at them.

So tell me about your “real life”.
I dont brag about my personal life. Let's just say you arent the only one to hit it big and pack up shop. And even though I retired at 38(18 years ago) after cashing in my chips, I would never tell anyone I was a baller. Humility can go a long ways. I also try to find some positive in the worst situations. I guess that makes me a sheep.
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Ps. Nice flags flying. Ryan did good letting you reel those in. LoL
I guess you were there. Ive set the hook on a few perch.
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I dont brag about my personal life. Let's just say you arent the only one to hit it big and pack up shop. And even though I retired at 38(18 years ago) after cashing in my chips, I would never tell anyone I was a baller. Humility can go a long ways. I also try to find some positive in the worst situations. I guess that makes me a sheep.
I wouldn’t ask a random forum member about his real life. Just saying. Carry on.

It’s a bad situation. Embarrassing and will make for a long season. And I really dislike their hire of Baker. To each his own.
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And I really dislike their hire of Baker. To each his own.
Well we can agree on that.
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It just bothers me that is “embarrassing” for us but it’s not even remotely looked down upon that the Yankees were busted on 2017, Red Sox in 2018, Dodgers on the list...teams in the 80’s being called out etc...


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I also disagree with the assertion that no one worth a crap would want this job. There are only 32 of them and there has to be a young up and comer that would thrive with these players. Hinch wasnt the most sought after guy when he was handed the job. I just didnt want some old school retread. This team is still stacked and poised to compete for a WS ring in 2020. Who wouldnt want that opportunity? So what if you have to put up with some awkwardness in Spring Training, it's all about October.
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No. I’m a baller in real life. You know this. And I go to Astros spring training, lots of games, have a friend who was on the team, etc. Just don’t mind calling a spade a spade, not a sheep fan. It’s a total **** show right now. They couldn’t get a manger worth a **** to even look at them.

So tell me about your “real life”.
Who is the manager(s) that they couldn't get to look at them?
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It just bothers me that is “embarrassing” for us but it’s not even remotely looked down upon that the Yankees were busted on 2017, Red Sox in 2018, Dodgers on the list...teams in the 80’s being called out etc...


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I listen to MLB radio quite a bit while driving around. It is amazing it is referred to continuously as the Astros' sign stealing. They didnt give two ****s about it when the Yanks and Sox were disciplined for doing it. Or do they rarely mention the fact that the Sox are once again under investigation for it. As a repeat offender, the Sox should absolutely be crushed with fines, lose of draft picks and their GM suspended. It wont happen though.
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No. I’m a baller in real life. You know this. And I go to Astros spring training, lots of games, have a friend who was on the team, etc. Just don’t mind calling a spade a spade, not a sheep fan. It’s a total **** show right now. They couldn’t get a manger worth a **** to even look at them.



So tell me about your “real life”.


Is this guy even real???
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I listen to MLB radio quite a bit while driving around. It is amazing it is referred to continuously as the Astros' sign stealing. They didnt give two ****s about it when the Yanks and Sox were disciplined for doing it. Or do they rarely mention the fact that the Sox are once again under investigation for it. As a repeat offender, the Sox should absolutely be crushed with fines, lose of draft picks and their GM suspended. It wont happen though.


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Is this guy even real???
Nah, man. Fake TBH account. You know.
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I'm still waiting for Verlander to weigh in from his high horse like he does when someone other than a teammate is caught using steroids.

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So what were the yanks and sox found guilty of, specifically that y’all think somehow vindicates the stros? What level of evidence do we have?


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Dusty Baker? Should be fun.
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Yankees were fined for stealing signs using the YES Network cameras in 2017 to and Sox got popped for using Apple watches to relay signs in the same season, not speculation, facts. Also worst kept secret in baseball is Chase Utley parked in video room relaying signals at Dodger Stadium the last two years. Plain and simple, everyone is/was doing it. And yes, it is a defense as baseball did such an horrendous job rolling out the replay system and has done so little in the past to dissuade teams/players from taking an edge.

And I'm guessing the Rangers wouldve done the same but why risk lowering where they picked in the draft?

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Dusty Baker? Should be fun.
I know these initial reports are generally true, but Nightengale been wrong so many times and none of the big guys backing him up. Also its so counter to everything the Astros believe in and IMO the last thing they need is a 70 year old retread manager.

Fingers crossed they go in a different direction meaning Venables, Biggio or the like. Because if they go with one of the retread septigeneraians, MM gonna feel like a mausoleum...
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Been saying..its not official yet since beginning..believe word i used was rumor.

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Joe Buck says "there isnt just one or two teams doing it"............."..and soto is 21 years old".
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Not sure which news was worse...Dusty Baker to the Astros or BoB named as GM AND HC of the Texans

A complete @#$& show in Houston this year
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She? Her name is peter Woodfork?
Is that her real name or nickname?
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Im just ready to smash some folks on the road. It’s all MMQB’ing. Calling into question Dusty’s past is no different than AJ’s where he failed at Arizona. Different team everytime. Hopefully we hire KimNG next for the GM.


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Not sure which news was worse...Dusty Baker to the Astros or BoB named as GM AND HC of the Texans

A complete @#$& show in Houston this year
The hits just keep on coming. Houston has now taken all the heat off of old Jerrah. And, has made him look like Einstein.
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Im just ready to smash some folks on the road. It’s all MMQB’ing. Calling into question Dusty’s past is no different than AJ’s where he failed at Arizona. Different team everytime. Hopefully we hire KimNG next for the GM.


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Oh yea. A 70 year old manager is definitely what the Astros needed. That should fire up the masses and put butts in the seats.

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A complete @#$& show in Houston this year
Shouldnt you be in a CFB thread taking some medicine?
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What the straight up hell.....?

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