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Old 08-28-2022, 07:12 PM   #1
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Will be hunting with trad equipment this year and looking for a durable, easy to sharpen two blade head. Anybody have any recommendations? Not looking to spend big on the German kinetics or iron wills just yet.
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Old 08-28-2022, 08:55 PM   #2
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I would look at magnus stingers or Strickland helix.
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:08 PM   #3
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I would look at magnus stingers or Strickland helix.

I shoot Strickland helix. They are great!


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Old 08-28-2022, 09:19 PM   #4
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Magnus, Simmons, kudupoint
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:26 PM   #5
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Hard to beat Magnus and their warranty.
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:26 PM   #6
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I shoot kudus, they are great penetrating head. Iíve had a ton of success with them the last 4 years. Donít expect a huge blood trail though
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:30 PM   #7
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I shoot kudus, they are great penetrating head. Iíve had a ton of success with them the last 4 years. Donít expect a huge blood trail though
Thats the general consensus with two blade heads.


Every person I talk to that has shot alot of animals with trad gear say that the blood trails from two blades suck.

I'm going to use the Kudu points here in a little bit because I need maximum penetration but I'm a fan of slick tricks in a fixed blade head from a compound.

Out of my trad bows I use wasp sharpshooters.


The one doe I shot with a Kudu point only went 50 yards but didn't bleed hardly at all.
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:39 PM   #8
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Everyone has their favorites, I like Muzzy Trocar. Have had great success
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:42 PM   #9
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Old 08-28-2022, 09:53 PM   #10
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Thanks for the replies guys. Many of these i havnt checked out yet.
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Old 08-28-2022, 10:13 PM   #11
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Simmons will give you the most options for larger cut diameters if you want only a 2 blade.

a 2 blade cut on contact is really hard to screw up so I'm not sure it matters a lot as long as they aren't total junk. Just get them sharp. Kudu, Simmons, Magnus, VPA(kind of expensive), Steelforce(looks like they are not part of Schwacker) and others are all good without spending a fortune. Magnus is probably the only one you can actually go and buy at a store though so that may be a consideration. Most of these you have to order online.
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Old 08-28-2022, 10:49 PM   #12
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Too little information to give a good reply. Like what weight head, screw in or glue on, removable blade, single or double bevel? Magnus makes good heads. Heck you can kill pigs and deer all day long with inexpensive German Jagers. Plenty of guys in the traditional section with a ton of kills that could probably steer you in the right direction.
Personally I like heads I can afford to lose but will take and hold a good edge. GKs and Grizlystiks are a little rich for my budget.
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Old 08-28-2022, 10:54 PM   #13
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Old 08-28-2022, 10:59 PM   #14
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Magnus stinger or GK.
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Old 08-28-2022, 11:02 PM   #15
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Too little information to give a good reply. Like what weight head, screw in or glue on, removable blade, single or double bevel? Magnus makes good heads. Heck you can kill pigs and deer all day long with inexpensive German Jagers. Plenty of guys in the traditional section with a ton of kills that could probably steer you in the right direction.
Personally I like heads I can afford to lose but will take and hold a good edge. GKs and Grizlystiks are a little rich for my budget.
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Sorry, I’m new to the trad game. Need to take you up on that though as I have a ton of questions. But These will be spin on 125 grain on gold tip traditionals 500 spine. Prefer a solid single bevel. Bow is a black river archery hybrid 47 pounds at 28”. Actually got it here on TBH. Thanks good luck to you and everyone else as well!

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Old 08-28-2022, 11:03 PM   #16
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Old 08-28-2022, 11:05 PM   #17
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Wensel Woodsman’s are my go tooo
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Old 08-28-2022, 11:05 PM   #18
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Why the single bevel? Almost every trad guy I know who kills lots of critters has moved to WIDE 2 blades, or 3 blades, or 4 blades. More blood on the ground, and it really doesn't effect penetration nearly as much as the Ashby studies make it sound. Maybe if you're shooting rhinos.

I have it on good info that DRT has killed several pigs with a rage hypo out of his recurve. Long story, short... a well tuned arrow will jam a 3 or 4 blade through a whitetail no problem.

Personally I migrate back and forth between Iron Will Wides, and VPA 3 blades on my trad bows, with an occasional magnus 4 blade stinger or black hornet in the quiver, just to mix things up.
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Old 08-28-2022, 11:11 PM   #19
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Why the single bevel?
Figured they would be easier to sharpen. Really the only reason.
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:45 AM   #20
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:45 AM   #21
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Figured they would be easier to sharpen. Really the only reason.
Now THAT is a good reason to use a single bevel.

Or you can get some DMT diamond stones and a lansky sharpening jig.
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Old 08-29-2022, 09:36 AM   #22
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More blood on the ground, and it really doesn't effect penetration nearly as much as the Ashby studies make it sound. Maybe if you're shooting rhinos.

To hear him and ranch fairy tell it if you don't use a heavy two blade the arrow is gonna bounce off the hide of anything larger than a jackrabbit.


Ive shot thru too many animals with a 3 blade over the top expandable to buy into this b.s.
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Old 08-29-2022, 09:47 AM   #23
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I shoot kudus, they are great penetrating head. Iíve had a ton of success with them the last 4 years. Donít expect a huge blood trail though
I liked the kudus but agree on the limited blood trail and they are also difficult (for me) to sharpen.
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Old 08-29-2022, 09:52 AM   #24
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For the price, variety of weights, both glue on and screw in, single or double bevel, and ease of sharpening 2 blades from Grizzly are the best I have found. That said I usually shoot a 3blade woodsman. I have never had penetration issues and I prefer a hole vs a slit.
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:05 AM   #25
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I’ve had real good results from Magnus ser razor. Killed lots of pigs and they are fairly easy to resharpen.
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Old 08-29-2022, 01:44 PM   #26
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I sure like tooth of the arrow broadheads
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Old 08-29-2022, 02:19 PM   #27
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Look at RMS
They’re lifetime guaranteed also and hold an edge but the steel is so tough that sharpening is a chore.
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Old 08-29-2022, 03:01 PM   #28
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Sorry, Iím new to the trad game. Need to take you up on that though as I have a ton of questions. But These will be spin on 125 grain on gold tip traditionals 500 spine. Prefer a solid single bevel. Bow is a black river archery hybrid 47 pounds at 28Ē. Actually got it here on TBH. Thanks good luck to you and everyone else as well!
Look at 3Rivers and Lancaster. They will have exactly what you described.
https://www.3riversarchery.com/buy/a...vel-broadheads
https://lancasterarchery.com/collect...ade-broadheads

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Old 08-29-2022, 03:14 PM   #29
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I have used Wensel Woodsmans 3-blades for years with trad and compound. Some find the 3-blade are easier to sharpen. You do not need to worry about keeping the sharpening angle consistent, just two blades flat to the stone or file. Tune your arrows properly and get some weight up front and they will fly great.
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Old 08-29-2022, 03:18 PM   #30
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Old 08-29-2022, 04:16 PM   #31
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Look at 3Rivers and Lancaster. They will have exactly what you described.
https://www.3riversarchery.com/buy/a...vel-broadheads
https://lancasterarchery.com/collect...ade-broadheads

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I have checked them out. Just checking what people here have shot and have had success with.
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Old 08-29-2022, 08:04 PM   #32
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I used to shoot those Sasquatch heads when I hunted with traditional stuff and they were nasty.
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Old 08-29-2022, 09:38 PM   #33
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We have been having great luck with Magnus Black Hornets. Canít beat the lifetime warranty.


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Old 08-29-2022, 09:48 PM   #34
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magnus stinger, followed by the black hornet,,,
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:10 PM   #36
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:56 PM   #37
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If I was going to shoot a cut on contact it would be a Kayuga Pilot Cut Gen 2. Pretty substantial leadtime with them shipping from Australia though. Worth the wait in my opinion. A friend killed a bunch of animals in Africa with these including a Cape Buffalo.

Check them out here.

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Old 08-29-2022, 11:43 PM   #38
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I wouldn't give a plug nickel for the Wensel Woodsman's. Them and the Simmons tiger sharks bent like child's toys on pigs and turkey.


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Old 08-30-2022, 08:37 AM   #39
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Thanks fellas. Think I’m gonna go with the black hornets for now. Really like the kudu and Kayuga heads though.
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Thanks fellas. Think Iím gonna go with the black hornets for now. Really like the kudu and Kayuga heads though.

Good choice. Weíve killed a bunch of axis, wt, pigs and most of our African animals with them. The lifetime free replacement is legit.


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