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Old 10-19-2019, 12:38 PM   #1
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I finally got my first chance to hunt this morning. After all the stress I've been under, y'all have no idea how good it felt to be in my favorite tree. Had a big arse boar come in that I would guess to scare 250. I was equipped with Rage hypos this hunt, even though I had written them off based on previous experiences with them. I drew back and punched this ol boy right in the sweet spot. He runs off, and I see my lighted nock flopping around with little penetration. This has happened multiple times now with hypos. So what's everyone's opinion here? I'm not one to focus blame on equipment malfunction; I'll own up to poor shots. I just can't figure this out. Based off the arrow I found, I got maybe 2" of penetration.

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Old 10-19-2019, 12:39 PM   #2
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:41 PM   #3
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Glad you got out to hunt! I would say you hit bone for sure. I doubt a rib would bend the tip like that. Never know though. I'd guess that pig lives. Good luck with the track if you try to find him. Big pigs are awfully tough.
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:43 PM   #4
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Par for the course with big expandables.
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:22 PM   #5
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I had 1 buck shot with rage hypo. Hit exactly where I aimed. No buck. Threw the rest away. Will never use again.


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Old 10-19-2019, 01:30 PM   #6
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From my observations there are two schools of thought on Rage heads. Great and terrible. Since I’m not willing to gamble I’ve never used them. If you try to follow up the hog take something that goes bang !
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Old 10-19-2019, 01:37 PM   #7
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What is the sweet spot on a big hog? Broadside shoulder is the toughest spot on a big hog. I like to hit behind the shoulder into the heart at an angle.


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Old 10-19-2019, 01:53 PM   #8
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They are junk! Exactly why I went to slick tricks.


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Old 10-19-2019, 01:59 PM   #9
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What is the sweet spot on a big hog? Broadside shoulder is the toughest spot on a big hog. I like to hit behind the shoulder into the heart at an angle.


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Right in the crease for me.

Also using a large expandable (raptor trick) and got a partial passthrough. Two holes but fletching stopped on entry side




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Old 10-19-2019, 02:01 PM   #10
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I think you hit bone. I have only used rages a couple of times, once on a doe that i intentionally shot through the shoulder in a quartering to shot and got complete penetration and the other was the largest bodied buck I ever shot. Shot him quartering away and hit the off side shoulder and did not get full penetration, although i am not sure i would have gotten full penetration with any broadhead. I will say that in both cases the rages worked perfectly and if i had made the same shot on the buck with a smaller broadhead recovery might have been an issue as the arrow was in the upper half of the deer, but with the 2+ inches of entry hole, there was decent blood trail to follow
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Old 10-19-2019, 02:02 PM   #11
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Please PM me and I’ll give my address for all the rages you boys want to give away



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Old 10-19-2019, 02:42 PM   #12
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Ive killed some big pigs.
Ramcats have provided the best results.
Now ive also killed them with shwackers but no pass through.
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:49 PM   #13
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Slick tricks fly great and penetrate great. Some people gripe about blood trails but people gripe about all kinds of things.
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Old 10-19-2019, 05:56 PM   #14
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I’ve tried rage heads (non hypo) and they didn’t impress me. Have not shot them since. There are much better heads out there imo.


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Old 10-19-2019, 05:58 PM   #15
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In tried a Schwacker 125 the other day. Blades snapped off. You just can't spread 125 grains of metal out that far and expect it to be strong.
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Old 10-19-2019, 06:42 PM   #16
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Hogs will test your equipment

I suspect your “sweet spot” was a tad off and you hit some solid bone

I bought a pack of rage at a garage sale. Had 2 new heads and a practice head

Tried practice head and it hit where my other broadheads hit
Took one and killed a pig with it. No complaints but I am not buying any at full price because I’m just not

I have been shooting pigs lately with whatever odd ball heads I have laying around

Don’t give up, there are plenty more pigs to shoot




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Old 10-19-2019, 06:55 PM   #17
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I prefer fixed blade broadheads on hogs. They are tough(the hogs and the heads.

I double lunged a big hog with a 425 grain hollow point out of a .54 caliber muzzle loader and he did not drip one drop of blood. I just lucked up finding him in the palmettos.

That thick "plate" that big hogs have is tough on expandables.
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:12 PM   #18
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No offense to the OP at all, crap happens and yes equipment fails, but I bet shot placement can be to blame for the majority of people saying that rage’s are junk... if they’ll kill a lion surely they’ll kill a pig. Just sayin

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Old 10-19-2019, 07:40 PM   #19
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No offense to the OP at all, crap happens and yes equipment fails, but I bet shot placement can be to blame for the majority of people saying that rage’s are junk... if they’ll kill a lion surely they’ll kill a pig. Just sayin
I typically lean this way as well. I have shot many different heads, and this has happened 3 times in my life. All 3 came from hypos. After this time I'm starting to wonder.

The shot was very slightly quartering away and straight up the backside side of the front leg. He actually stopped after a short run and stood there. My nock was shining bright, so it was easy to see.

I wanted this pig dead! Out of 1000 pics, I bet 500 were of him. He's keeping the deer away. Plus he's the biggest pig I've ever seen with a bow in hand.

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Old 10-19-2019, 07:47 PM   #20
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No offense to the OP at all, crap happens and yes equipment fails, but I bet shot placement can be to blame for the majority of people saying that rage’s are junk... if they’ll kill a lion surely they’ll kill a pig. Just sayin
I've killed deer and pigs with Rages. I've killed a whole bunch of other stuff, including African plains game with Slicktricks. I think Rages are junk
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:48 PM   #21
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Stick a Muzzy in him!!!
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:58 PM   #22
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I am not a rage fanboy by any means, you can see by my earlier post i have only shot 2 deer with them. But if you look on the broadhead damage thread there are a large number of rage shooters and the heads tend to work according to the picks in that thread. I think that shot placement was off a bit, and the head was not to blame in this instance. If you look at it honestly, pretty much any head with some sort of point is going to penetrate more than 2 inches if heavy bone is not encountered, even a field tip
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:48 PM   #23
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Grim reapers or slick tricks. Will turn a sendero red !
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Old 10-19-2019, 10:27 PM   #24
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Expandables are not allowed on my ranch or my friends ranch. Way too many uncontrollable variables with them.

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Old 10-20-2019, 08:54 AM   #25
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For big hogs I would use fixed blade heads. I have shot a whole lot of 200lb+ hogs and penetration isn't the problem. I only use expandable broadheads on turkey, so it maybe slows them down with the arrow still stuck in them. But for a hog you definitely want a pass thru. Slick trick 100gr mags will help with that. JMHO
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:46 AM   #26
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A big hog is tougher than an elk.. I carry a fix blade in my quiver just for hogs.. light fast arrows and mechanical heads dont go together.. rage has its place but shooting hogs ain't it..
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:49 AM   #27
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A big hog is tougher than an elk.. I carry a fix blade in my quiver just for hogs.. light fast arrows and mechanical heads dont go together.. rage has its place but shooting hogs ain't it..
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:52 AM   #28
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Stick a Muzzy in him!!!
This and fixed.
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:02 AM   #29
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Rocket steelhead 125 is a great mechanical for hogs.even the Chinese nock offs are great
Killed a pile with them .
I also like the gravedigger 125 all steel
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:09 AM   #30
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Cut on contact fixed blade only for big boars for me, even if I was using a souped up compound instead of my longbow!!!!!!!

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Old 10-20-2019, 10:25 AM   #31
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Rage broadheads always work great! Until they don't. I went back to muzzy.
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Old 10-20-2019, 01:58 PM   #32
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Thanks for the comments guys. Going to head to cabelas Tuesday and grab some fixed heads. Thinking about trying those black Hornets from Magnus. Or may give muzzys a try for the first time. I've been wanting a big boar with my bow to mount, and this guy might be the ticket if I get another chance.

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Old 10-20-2019, 02:13 PM   #33
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^^^ look at the Magnus Buzzcuts in 4 blade.

I was very impressed with their penetration from a 40# longbow
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:17 PM   #34
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Last thing I shot with a hypo was a big 9pt that lived after shot. Never shot them again.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:45 PM   #35
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:55 PM   #36
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I’ll take second in line.

I’ve never liked Rage broadheads until the hypodermics came out. They are my favorite head for now.

I’ve killed a couple of deer and a few pigs with them with the proverbial Ray Charles blood trails. Penetration has never been a problem shooting 60#, 30” draw and 400 grain arrows.


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Old 10-20-2019, 04:50 PM   #37
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And if he gets to many I’ll take the rest, thanks ! Oops looks like third, or forth in line.

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Old 10-20-2019, 05:30 PM   #38
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Anything mechanical will fail. Just when is the scary part.
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Old 10-20-2019, 05:50 PM   #39
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I still have my Hypos and never have had a problem with them, but I am also trying the Zeus this year. Man they are nice. It zipped through the buck I shot this year like butter.
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