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Old 10-10-2019, 09:36 PM   #1
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Default You folks that have sold your hunting or farming property

I had a man offer me quite a sum of money for my place. I can keep minerals and water rights. He wants my equipment, blinds and etc. Never considered selling before and I been aggravated thinking about it.

Y'all that have sold out, have you regretted it?

Did you just pay the capital gains and move on? I dont know if I would buy another chunk of land again.

If I do sell out then what?

I aint got but a few years left working and I really do not know what to do.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:41 PM   #2
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All I can say is I would never sell a piece that I enjoyed and didn't have too, land will never go down in value. I would only sell if I could buy a better piece some where else and improve on my investment.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:41 PM   #3
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Unless youre in love with the property you have, I’d do a 1031 exchange and take the profits and go buy another piece of property. That will keep you from paying capital gains and you can find a place you don’t want to part with.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:43 PM   #4
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I’m in the same boat. I think the market is good with quality properties going quickly. I’m probably going to sell but would be interested in hearing from guys who have taken the plunge as well.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:43 PM   #5
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Unless youíve got an emotional attachment to your place, I 2nd the 1031 exchange and trade up.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:44 PM   #6
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I thought we already had this discussion old man? Don’t do it unless you can flip it for a larger piece of property. The only thing I know about land is.............they ain’t making any MORE of it.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:46 PM   #7
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Think of all the hunting you could do Jeff if you didn't have to work so hard.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:49 PM   #8
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I thought we already had this discussion old man? Donít do it unless you can flip it for a larger piece of property. The only thing I know about land is.............they ainít making any MORE of it.
They keep raising the offer
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:49 PM   #9
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Think of all the hunting you could do Jeff if you didn't have to work so hard.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:50 PM   #10
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How much work have you put in the place and is the location good for you. If you do find another place would it be something you would have to start over on and close to you. Do you currently live on the place and how's the neighbors. I don't know how the taxes work but I think you have like 6 months to reinvest. Tough question. If you like your place don't sell it if you think you can find something better. Personally I wouldn't sell land especially if it's already paid for.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:53 PM   #11
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Everything I own is for sell I try not to fall in love with anything I can make some money on. Do a 1031 and find a good deal on another piece then repeat. You can't go wrong buying and selling dirt if you do it right. The only land I wouldnt sell is a piece of property I own that borders my late grandpa's farm.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:53 PM   #12
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Take the money and buy a boat. Best advice I can give you.

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Old 10-10-2019, 09:54 PM   #13
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Agree with all above. Once you part ways with land it's hard getting back.

Like many folks, I'm two generations removed from land owning farm and ranch heritage. "The county got the farm and we moved to town" as it is written. I'm not saying they could have held on back in those days but they chose to "buy a washing machine and then a Chevrolet". Now, significant wealth has moved back into the middle class and many feel the drive to want to return to the land, but alas, their ain't no land....point is, it's hard to get back. if anything transition your land wealth into another property with a 1031
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:55 PM   #14
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Fixin’ to do the same thing.
Gonna miss the old place after 35 years.
But trading for one closer.
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Old 10-10-2019, 09:56 PM   #15
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How much work have you put in the place and is the location good for you. If you do find another place would it be something you would have to start over on and close to you. Do you currently live on the place and how's the neighbors. I don't know how the taxes work but I think you have like 6 months to reinvest. Tough question. If you like your place don't sell it if you think you can find something better. Personally I wouldn't sell land especially if it's already paid for.
I dont live on the place, but have done may improvements over the years. I have looked at other properties and could buy something else, and start over again. I own it outright, been paid for a long time.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:01 PM   #16
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They keep raising the offer
Hmmm... if they are raising their offer... they either want it badly to complete an area...or they know something coming down the pipe.


I think you are close to my brother. He is in Eagle Creek Ranch off 281.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:01 PM   #17
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I wouldnít unless I could buy more with the proceeds than I was selling

And I sure wouldnít sell if it was in an area I wanted to be in and couldnít replace what I was selling

Even if I was considering selling I would not get in a hurry, they may get real stupid with the future offers

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Old 10-10-2019, 10:05 PM   #18
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I wouldnít unless I could buy more with the proceeds than I was selling

And I sure wouldnít sell if it was in an area I wanted to be in and couldnít replace what I was selling

Even if I was considering selling I would not get in a hurry, they may get real stupid with the future offers

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I own an easement to two other properties, that may have something to do with it. I made it clear that minerals and water stays with me.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:11 PM   #19
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I had a man offer me quite a sum of money for my place. I can keep minerals and water rights. He wants my equipment, blinds and etc. Never considered selling before and I been aggravated thinking about it.

Y'all that have sold out, have you regretted it?

Did you just pay the capital gains and move on? I dont know if I would buy another chunk of land again.

If I do sell out then what?

I aint got but a few years left working and I really do not know what to do.
I sold mine Jeff, lock, stock, and barrel. I owned it 11 years, spent way too much labor and sweat, and a considerable amount of $ on it. I bought it pretty cheap though, paid cash, and owner financed the sale with 15% down. I havenít regretted it whatsoever and that monthly check will let me hunt pretty near any place I want to. YMMV though, as some get sentimental about land, but mine had no family ties so it didnít twinge too much.

I did enjoy the process of taking a piece of raw land and turning it into a pretty nice hunting property though, complete with 5 acres of food plots, nice roads, and a nice 1200 sg.ft. house. All the guy had to do was move in and bring his gun. If I had it to do over, I wouldnít change a thing.

I feel the need to add that my age had something to do with my decision. Some of you younger guys may not understand this, but Iím 72 and I do own 87 acres where I live and have a cheap deer lease 20 minutes from the house. That factors in, plus the fact that food plotting spring and fall on three places is getting to me. I canít go like I used to, nor do I want to. Jeff may be feeling like that too !

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Old 10-10-2019, 10:15 PM   #20
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If you do a 1031, you can either identify the property and have the buyer purchase it and then trade or use a qualified intermediary to hold the funds. You have 45 days to identify the properties you want to consider and 180 days to close. It doesn't have to go into only one property and it doesn't have to be raw land. If you do sell, state the selling price for the improvements (blinds, stands, equipment) separately as these are not eligible for 1031. Technically, non investment or business property is not eligible for 1031, but since you are selling it for a profit I don't think you would have any issues with that.

Talk to a CPA before you sign the contract.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:22 PM   #21
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Hard to say since I have never been in your situation. But I do know I have been working/trying my whole life to try to get a piece of property and so far only have 10ac. so selling a decent piece for any purpose other than to buy a better/larger piece does not compute in my brain.

Either way, best of luck to you.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:24 PM   #22
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Hard to say since I have never been in your situation. But I do know I have been working/trying my whole life to try to get a piece of property and so far only have 10ac. so selling a decent piece for any purpose other than to buy a better/larger piece does not compute in my brain.

Either way, best of luck to you.
This is true Mike, I gotta do some figuring and contemplating.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:31 PM   #23
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Good move to retain groundwater and mineral rights. I'd also try to keep the wind rights. I've worked on some large ranches in the Panhandle and West Texas on groundwater projects. Those are nice mailbox trips when the owner's get checks from groundwater, wind farms, oil & gas leases and royalties.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:33 PM   #24
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1031 your money into some income producing properties and with a portion of said net profits take some cool hunts on other folks places that put in all the work. I know the work for most of us is 70 percent of the fun but residual income is fun as well.
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:34 PM   #25
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No brainer for me. Everything I have is up for sale. Property is just property. Hunting property for me gets boring. End up not hunting and knowing the deer too well. I’d rather travel and hunt out West.

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Old 10-10-2019, 10:35 PM   #26
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Yep. What everyone else said, 1031 exchange


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Old 10-10-2019, 10:36 PM   #27
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The only reason I say this is we have 150 acres we live on and places all around us have been selling and subdividing. I know the hunting will be going down hill in a hurry in the next 5 years. So our thoughts is what I highlighted above.
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:36 PM   #28
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I sold two hunting properties 2 years ago and did a 1031 into a strip center. I was looking for cash flowing assets but dearly miss owning my own property. Looking at a place in se Kansas right now.
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:59 PM   #29
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Will selling this place let you afford a better place? If so, I say jump on it. If not, stay put. Land values aren’t going down.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:06 AM   #31
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I sold mine Jeff, lock, stock, and barrel. I owned it 11 years, spent way too much labor and sweat, and a considerable amount of $ on it. I bought it pretty cheap though, paid cash, and owner financed the sale with 15% down. I havenít regretted it whatsoever and that monthly check will let me hunt pretty near any place I want to. YMMV though, as some get sentimental about land, but mine had no family ties so it didnít twinge too much.

I did enjoy the process of taking a piece of raw land and turning it into a pretty nice hunting property though, complete with 5 acres of food plots, nice roads, and a nice 1200 sg.ft. house. All the guy had to do was move in and bring his gun. If I had it to do over, I wouldnít change a thing.

I feel the need to add that my age had something to do with my decision. Some of you younger guys may not understand this, but Iím 72 and I do own 87 acres where I live and have a cheap deer lease 20 minutes from the house. That factors in, plus the fact that food plotting spring and fall on three places is getting to me. I canít go like I used to, nor do I want to. Jeff may be feeling like that too !
How I feel about it. If not family land, Iíd sell. People are paying prices for land that will never in 5 lifetimes pay for itself around here.

Couple hundred or even 40 acres is fun to play on but can get boring to me after a few years. For the price of the sale I could have that money invested and hunt anywhere I wanted the rest of my life and my kids life. No land taxes, no &$&-% ing cattle.

Working land is still fun to me when itís a hobby... when itís a job it sucks
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:14 AM   #32
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Everything I own is for sale including my farm. But I buy and trade land a lot.

You have one of two mind sets on when you have land. It’s either for profit or recreation. You just have to decide where you are at. If for profit, then it’s just a formula of it’s the “right” amount of money.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:19 AM   #33
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I am fortunate to own part of 3 ranches, bought them so my family will always have a place to hunt, I do not plan on selling them, after I am gone I hope my great great grand children are hunting on Paw Paw's ranch.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:01 AM   #34
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How I feel about it. If not family land, Iíd sell. People are paying prices for land that will never in 5 lifetimes pay for itself around here.

Couple hundred or even 40 acres is fun to play on but can get boring to me after a few years. For the price of the sale I could have that money invested and hunt anywhere I wanted the rest of my life and my kids life. No land taxes, no &$&-% ing cattle.

Working land is still fun to me when itís a hobby... when itís a job it sucks
That is what is happening around here. The problem is everyone here is buying, splitting it up in 10 acre lots and selling it for 10k an acre. I never seen anything like it.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:21 AM   #35
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That is what is happening around here. The problem is everyone here is buying, splitting it up in 10 acre lots and selling it for 10k an acre. I never seen anything like it.
There paying near that now here..... then are like $&&% I need a $80k tractor too....and on and on. No clue what it takes to upkeep land

One guy wanted to lease us his pasture (about 100 acre place) for cattle.... he though $1,500 a month would be fair. Lol
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:24 AM   #36
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How I feel about it. If not family land, Iíd sell. People are paying prices for land that will never in 5 lifetimes pay for itself around here.

Couple hundred or even 40 acres is fun to play on but can get boring to me after a few years. For the price of the sale I could have that money invested and hunt anywhere I wanted the rest of my life and my kids life. No land taxes, no &$&-% ing cattle.

Working land is still fun to me when itís a hobby... when itís a job it sucks
Yep. Its crazy. I ran rough numbers some months ago and on one piece of property I looked at it would take something like 200yrs to pay for it off with cattle, if you you worked for free and had zero other expenses.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:24 AM   #37
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:30 AM   #38
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My place is waiting on the survey now.. I hated to let it go but i moved to far away to take care of the cows .. without that I couldn't justify paying for the land.. It will be an adjustment. I actually enjoyed taking care of the land.. I think I'll buy a piece of land to retire on and start getting it like I want it..
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:53 AM   #39
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Unless youre in love with the property you have, Iíd do a 1031 exchange and take the profits and go buy another piece of property. That will keep you from paying capital gains and you can find a place you donít want to part with.
This is what I would do unless you have a tie (family land, etc.) to your existing place. This would allow you to get what you want, how big you want, and allow you to be wherever once you retire.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:13 AM   #40
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That is what is happening around here. The problem is everyone here is buying, splitting it up in 10 acre lots and selling it for 10k an acre. I never seen anything like it.
the very fact that you are asking and struggling with the decision indicates that you aren't so in love with it. I would absolutely sell, especially based on the fact that you can keep minerals and water.

sell out and go buy a bigger chunk in OK!
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:24 AM   #41
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Sell. I've had two places over the years, started with 160 acres and 1031'ed in 400 acres. I had hunting/grazing rights to to 800 adjacent acres. if the price is right and the timing is right-sell and don't look back.

I enjoyed the process of turning both places into something special, but now I actually hunt a lot more and work a lot less.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:07 PM   #42
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Sell if it does not mean much to you, but don't give it away. If you do the 1031 make sure you are using someone that knows all the ins and outs of it. Wanted to do it once but all the ducks have to line up just right. I found the properties I wanted to buy but if things don't happen in the right time frame, it sucks.

We sold our family farm a few years back, was just too far to keep up with. Grandparents and our father farmed there starting out as sharecroppers. Hated to do it but used the money to improve my Hill Country land so I just told myself I was just transferring the land. Kept the mineral rights, just in case.

People love to buy properties that are already improved,they can buy them cheaper than doing it themselves. It's hard to charge for blood, sweat, and tears as my sister the real estate guru says. Appraisers don't factor that in.
Good luck, land buying is fun.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:35 PM   #43
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Since you are considering it, you have already crossed the initial hurdle. My advise is provide them with a number that you think they would have to truly consider and a number that you could never imagine getting for the property.

Then take you holdings find you a place to you truly want. I am sure that you know what you want after all the years of owning the current property.

Make it your retirement present to yourself!
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:49 PM   #44
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