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Old 10-10-2019, 10:45 AM   #1
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Default 22WMR / 22 Mag Rifle Reviews Needed!!

I'm in the market for a semi-auto 22WMR rifle or pistol to carry in my jeep at the lease, so I'm turning to TBH real world reviews of any 22 WMR. I kind of have my eye on the following guns:

Kel-Tec CMR-30
Kel-Tec PMR-30 (this is the pistol version and I heard it kicks like a 357 mag)
CZ 512 - the American or Tactical
Henry "Small Game" Carbine lever action
Or really any flavor 22 mag in all honesty, I'm not married to these listed
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:49 AM   #2
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The PMR-30 is awesome. It doesn't recoil bad but it is loud as heck. You'd want to step out of that jeep before shooting it I guarantee you. Empty 30 rounds sitting inside where it echoes and you'll.....need hearing aids.

I don't know about the CMR-30. I know a guy that has one but I don't have any experience with it personally.

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Old 10-10-2019, 10:52 AM   #3
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The PMR-30 is awesome. It doesn't recoil bad but it is loud as heck. You'd want to step out of that jeep before shooting it I guarantee you. Empty 30 rounds sitting inside where it echoes and you'll.....need hearing aids.
Ahhh.. Maybe that's what it was that I'd heard then, it's loud not the recoil
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Old 10-10-2019, 10:56 AM   #4
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Also interested in the Savage A22 or maybe even one of the Magnum Research models

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I love my PMR30.

Agree with the guy above...kick isn’t that bad. Bounces a little....but my girls shoot it fine.

I have a Savage rifle. Not super expense and good out of the box
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I’ve been looking myself for the same caliber but then saw Savage is making a semi-auto in 17hmr. A17 is the model, watched several reviews and no complaints. Will out perform the .22mag as well.
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The PMR-30 is awesome. It doesn't recoil bad but it is loud as heck. You'd want to step out of that jeep before shooting it I guarantee you. Empty 30 rounds sitting inside where it echoes and you'll.....need hearing aids.

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Agreed. Sweet little gun though. Light, and you don't even knows its there when carrying on the hip.
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The Henry lever gun is a nice one...
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:11 AM   #9
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I have the Henry pump . Fun little gun to shoot
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:13 AM   #10
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The cz honestly will be the best shooter out of the bunch listed. The Savage bolt guns shoot really good as well. If set on something for a quick follow up shot the Henry or a little Winchester lever gun would be my pick over a semi.



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Old 10-10-2019, 11:17 AM   #11
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The cz honestly will be the best shooter out of the bunch listed. The Savage bolt guns shoot really good as well. If set on something for a quick follow up shot the Henry or a little Winchester lever gun would be my pick over a semi.



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Yep and to add to that in my experience the Marlin bolt guns shoot just as good.
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:50 AM   #12
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The only 22 mag I have any experience with is the Henry lever action. I have had it two years and only use it to shoot trapped coons.

For what it's worth, I really like it and have had no issue with it.
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:09 PM   #13
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I got my PMR-30 thinking it was the greatest thing ever. 30 rounds is nice. Itís a blast to shoot and pretty dang accurate. It is freaking loud though!

I have. Henry Lever Action, the base model 22wmr. Put fiber optic sights in it and it is accurate enough to hit whatever I aim at. Have shot a few pigs near 100 yards.

If youíre into Bolt Guns, CZ is at the top of the list.

Ruger American Rimfire is worth looking into. I enjoy my Marlins though.
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Old 10-10-2019, 12:16 PM   #14
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22 Mag is one of my favorite calibers. I shoot the Ruger Single Nine for bobcats when hunting with hounds and when calling fox. I shot a couple of episodes of calling fox that we aired on CARNIVORE and viewers really liked them.
I am shooting the stock iron sights which are fiber optics. If I can get a good rest off my knee, I can consistently kill a gray fox out to 40 yards. The Kel Techs are great and lots of fun to shoot but I am not as accurate with it as I am the Single Nine. The Ruger is possibly the best made of the 22 Mags.
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don’t get a remington 597 22mag they are junk won’t cycle half the time and some times just goes clunk when you pull the trigger
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donít get a remington 597 22mag they are junk wonít cycle half the time and some times just goes clunk when you pull the trigger
I have heard this before.
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I shoot a Marlin 925M and it's one of my favorite rifles. It's nothing fancy but I can put a 40gr hollowpoint into the mouth of an empty pop can at 100 yards with it. I've killed a ton of varmints with that gun.
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donít get a remington 597 22mag they are junk wonít cycle half the time and some times just goes clunk when you pull the trigger
No argument, But the one I have has performed flawlessly and is Purty Dang accurate. Have fired 5-600 rounds through it.
A cleaning occasionally may be the secret. ????
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:18 PM   #19
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No argument, But the one I have has performed flawlessly and is Purty Dang accurate. Have fired 5-600 rounds through it.
A cleaning occasionally may be the secret. ????
nope iíve tried everything it did it from day one
shimmed the main spring and everything.
i sat on hold with remington multiple times to talk to someone and never even got to talk to a live person finally just gave up
it will shoot the cheap standard 22mag ammo ok most of the time now but any of the better stuff no go !
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Love my cz 22mag bolt gun. Sweet shooter and good lookin as well.
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Has anyone handled and shot the Kel-Tec CMR?
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:15 PM   #22
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I've also heard the 597's are a roll of the dice. I had one in 22LR and it I din't care for it as much as my viper and older marlin tube fed guns. Probably stay away from a 597 altogether unless I find a good deal on a cheap one.
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22 Mag is one of my favorite calibers. I shoot the Ruger Single Nine for bobcats when hunting with hounds and when calling fox. I shot a couple of episodes of calling fox that we aired on CARNIVORE and viewers really liked them.
I am shooting the stock iron sights which are fiber optics. If I can get a good rest off my knee, I can consistently kill a gray fox out to 40 yards. The Kel Techs are great and lots of fun to shoot but I am not as accurate with it as I am the Single Nine. The Ruger is possibly the best made of the 22 Mags.
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This pistol has also crossed my mind. I may have to go put my hands on one and see how she feels
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:18 PM   #24
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I got my PMR-30 thinking it was the greatest thing ever. 30 rounds is nice. Itís a blast to shoot and pretty dang accurate. It is freaking loud though!

I have. Henry Lever Action, the base model 22wmr. Put fiber optic sights in it and it is accurate enough to hit whatever I aim at. Have shot a few pigs near 100 yards.

If youíre into Bolt Guns, CZ is at the top of the list.

Ruger American Rimfire is worth looking into. I enjoy my Marlins though.
I love CZ but I'm looking at the semi auto CZ model 512 if I go towards them
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I'd like to get me a Volquartsen 10/22 magnum someday. From what I hear they're top of the line.
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I'd like to get me a Volquartsen 10/22 magnum someday. From what I hear they're top of the line.
I have one I bought from Blake...it was a pistol but I SBR'd it. 12"bbl with a suppressor is going to make a heck of little truck gun. I plan to start testing ammo soon.

Clark makes a top shelf gun as well.
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For a pistol, if you can find an AMT Automag 22mag (they don't make them anymore), they make a great truck gun as they are stainless steel so rust etc. is not an issue for the most part.

For a rifle, if you can find a Heckler & Koch Model 300 22 mag, they are one of the finest shooting 22 mag rifles out there. They were part of the import ban so you will only find them on the used market like Gunbroker etc. and they sell for a premium.
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22 mag is one of my Favorite calibers. Have several rifles including semi auto, Pumps and a Browning A Bolt in 22 Mag. Have Ruger, Smith in 22 mag only and an Auto-Mag. All are good. The 597 is my go to pickup gun But I may have just gotten a good one. 🤷🏻*♂️


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DOC how long have you had your 597 ?
i think i got mine right when remington was really letting their QC go the heck
it’s really a shame remington let itself get into so much trouble. they were always my go to hunting guns !
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I bought a Henry from someone on here, can’t remember who, but I love it. It’s much more accurate than the 9422M I used to own. Better trigger too.
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I bought a Henry from someone on here, canít remember who, but I love it. Itís much more accurate than the 9422M I used to own. Better trigger too.
I had a 9422m and it was really junk for what it was worth. I never could get it to shoot good and sold it for 800.00 to a collector I have a Henry lever 22mag but aint never shot it.

I carry a Ruger American in 22mag on my mule, its ok for beater gun.
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The pmr30 is fun to shoot, accurate but loud. Its light weight and easy to carry.
Oh how I wish Ruger would make the 10-22mag again. Bet they would not be able to keep them in stock.
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The pmr30 is fun to shoot, accurate but loud. Its light weight and easy to carry.
Oh how I wish Ruger would make the 10-22mag again. Bet they would not be able to keep them in stock.
Why did they quit making them, was they junk?
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:53 PM   #34
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I have the savage A17 and its very accurate very impressive for a semi auto . also have the marlin 922M semi auto 22mag its hard to find and very pricey but well worth the money if you can find one very accurate and has never jammed or hung up .
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I love the Henry. I also have a Ruger 96/22 in 22wmr. Lots of fun and slick little sucker.
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donít get a remington 597 22mag they are junk wonít cycle half the time and some times just goes clunk when you pull the trigger
Iíve had one for about 15 years, never had a single issue with, and havenít cleaned her up as much as I should.
I also have the CZ 455 and it is a dream tack driver.
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I have a Ruger 77/22mag. It wasn't perfect when i got it, but after a little trigger work, and i shimmed the 2 pc. bolt and free floated the barrel, it's pretty good now, and has a great action. Also have a Marlin bolt gun, 925,I think. i just did a trigger job on it and it has a rougher action than the Ruger, but shoots every bit as good, maybe better with some loads, and cost about half the money...
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I have a Ruger american and love it. I’ve killer two fox and two coon with it so far. 1 1/2 group at 100yrds all day long.
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Go with a Magnum Research and be done with it.
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I have a Marlin 25M. (magazine fed bolt action) Second gun I ever purchased on my own. Once I added a second action screw and performed a pen spring trigger job, it shoots very good groups. Thinking about a boyds thumbhole stock for it. Brother had a savage .22 mag auto, after it went back to the factory for the second time and still wasn't reliable, he moved it on.
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DOC how long have you had your 597 ?
i think i got mine right when remington was really letting their QC go the heck
itís really a shame remington let itself get into so much trouble. they were always my go to hunting guns !
Have had it for several years, one of the older ones for sure.

For the OP, if money is not an issue I would find a Magnum Research semi auto with synthetic stock. Great gun.
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Have had it for several years, one of the older ones for sure.

For the OP, if money is not an issue I would find a Magnum Research semi auto with synthetic stock. Great gun.
Yeah I hear those magnum research rifles are the bees knees. Just hard to fork over ~$700 for a "truck gun" but then again I know I'll probably have it the rest of my life...
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I have the marlin bolt action in that caliber. I just got it. Shoots great! The bolt is a little sticky but I'm sure some time and oil will work that out. I've only put maybe 20 rounds through it.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:15 AM   #44
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I carried a PMR 30 for several years at our ranch. Super lightweight, 30 rounds of firepower, and I love the 22 mag. But the noise was too much for me. That sucker seems louder than a 357 mag. I went back to my old trusty Ruger MKIV.
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Old 10-15-2019, 09:12 AM   #45
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Narrowing it down... at the top of the list now is the Henry Small Game Carbine and entertaining the idea of a bolt action. No matter what I get I want to keep up around 36-38" OAL or under.
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Narrowing it down... at the top of the list now is the Henry Small Game Carbine and entertaining the idea of a bolt action. No matter what I get I want to keep up around 36-38" OAL or under.


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Old 10-15-2019, 10:10 AM   #47
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That all depends on what I end up with and how well I can see the sights after dark. If they're not fiber optic sights I'll probably entertain the idea of putting a Sig Sauer romeo 5 red dot sight on it. Had one of those on my 30-30 that got stolen and I absolutely loved it.

So either irons or a red dot sight of some sort. Won't go with a scope I don't think.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:09 PM   #48
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For a truck gun I would look at a Ruger 8376 16" or 8335 18" and mount a Romeo 5 on it and be done
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IMO if you want any kind of power out of the gun get it in a rifle. Those rounds are made for rifles not pistols. A regular 22 long rifle is probably way more powerful than WMR/Mag in a pistol.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say it......

That Keltec CMR 30 is LOUD ! #%&*%$#^&&*

I wanted one in the worst way. Paid stupid $$$ for it cause they were kinda hard to find, at first.

Was deafening even w muffs. Real sharp crack.

Made the mistake of shooting it outta my truck window w/o hearing protection...... Once, and only once.

You need hearing protection EVERY TIME you shoot that gun!

I know you should always use plugs or muffs when practicing but I dont want to have to tell a yote to wait for me to safety up before I shoot him and it's that bad that I might hesitate w/o protection, lol.

I sold it to a TBHer (with full warning of its vocal capabilities).

Maybe he'll chime in. Good thing I'm writing this cause I doubt he could hear me say it if he shot w/o protection. Hell, it's so loud he might be blind now, too!

Safety first!
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