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Old 01-31-2020, 05:00 PM   #1
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China has quarantined 38 million people. 11 million in Wuhan alone. All roads in or out are closed with concrete barriers poured. It is a major shipping hub on a huge river with a big port. All shipping is stopped. Rail transportation is stopped and all air traffic banned.

In short order these folks will be desperate. No work. No food. No store or market to get anything. No way to travel to another place for help.

What the Heck do you do with 11 million starving and desperate people????? Surely there is a humanitarian plan?
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:04 PM   #2
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Crazy stuff for sure.

I've got 4 containers on the water right now, one will be delivered next week, that came out of China.....not Wuhan but it's still a little nerve racking.
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:12 PM   #3
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:13 PM   #4
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It’s a scary time for sure. At least they are doing something ya know? But if this happened in the US I’m sure there would be a way to get basic supplies into the areas but in regards to the care of the people over there I’m sure there won’t be enough of everything to go around. Sadder knowing that I doubt we will ever know


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What the Heck do you do with 11 million starving and desperate people????? Surely there is a humanitarian plan?

IT IS Communist China, there is no real humanitarian plan at least not anymore than necessary....they would just assume put them all in a hole and cover it up like the Nazi's, but the world is watching so they will just starve the virus to death probably.
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It’s a scary time for sure. At least they are doing something ya know? But if this happened in the US I’m sure there would be a way to get basic supplies into the areas but in regards to the care of the people over there I’m sure there won’t be enough of everything to go around. Sadder knowing that I doubt we will ever know


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I agree that we will never know. Actually we have no clue how bad this stuff is right now. I'm just thinking the logistics of supplying 11 million folks with just the basics of life is impossible since they are basically confined to their small homes. Unlike Americans most live in tiny spaces and get their food from markets on a daily basis. How could this be managed?

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Old 01-31-2020, 05:21 PM   #7
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I have a friend through work and lives in Hong Kong and he wants me to send him surgical mask but I can't find any. Everyone has already purchased them and sent them over there to family.
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I have a friend through work and lives in Hong Kong and he wants me to send him surgical mask but I can't find any. Everyone has already purchased them and sent them over there to family.
I'm sure most are made there lol.
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:36 PM   #9
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They have over a billion neighbors there that can help I would think.
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:36 PM   #10
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USA needs to start dropping loads of good over there. Not a time to play politics. They are so g his for our safely as wel
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They have over a billion neighbors there that can help I would think.
Nope. No one allowed in or out
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air drops?

I don't think they will let them starve, they need the workers.
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:43 PM   #13
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They won’t starve, they can call for Chinese take-out.


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For all we known its an engineered strain that's been introduced as a weapon by some nefarious government.....
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Old 01-31-2020, 05:55 PM   #15
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They are known for starving their citizens....nothing new
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They are known for starving their citizens....nothing new
Not very cool

But everyone has their own opinions
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Not very cool

But everyone has their own opinions
That guy is stating fact. Need a safe space?
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I emailed my buddy in Guangzhou China this morning and he replied ITS MUCH WORSE than the China State Media is releasing.

No ones coming back to my factory either for 2 additional weeks.

Lots of rumor this was a government test gone WAY wrong. Certain strain inserted into the new virus.
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Old 01-31-2020, 06:26 PM   #19
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I drove through China two times today. Going eastbound around, 8am then westbound at 1030am. I didn't notice any roadblocks. But on a serious note it, it very scary.
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I emailed my buddy in Guangzhou China this morning and he replied ITS MUCH WORSE than the China State Media is releasing.

No ones coming back to my factory either for 2 additional weeks.

Lots of rumor this was a government test gone WAY wrong. Certain strain inserted into the new virus.
I was hoping my rhetoric was just foil hat talk.
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I emailed my buddy in Guangzhou China this morning and he replied ITS MUCH WORSE than the China State Media is releasing.

No ones coming back to my factory either for 2 additional weeks.

Lots of rumor this was a government test gone WAY wrong. Certain strain inserted into the new virus.
I was thinking of you when I posted. Did your friend have any thoughts on what is happening in the quarantine areas?
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I was hoping my rhetoric was just foil hat talk.
Bill Gates says hi
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That guy is stating fact. Need a safe space?


Truth has no place i guess
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Crazy stuff for sure.

I've got 4 containers on the water right now, one will be delivered next week, that came out of China.....not Wuhan but it's still a little nerve racking.
I’ve got 6 stuck in Wuhan harbor from when the govt shut them down last week. I think we’re gonna have to reject the entire shipment and not even get in to the containers. Don’t need any contaminated materials
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I’ve got 6 stuck in Wuhan harbor from when the govt shut them down last week. I think we’re gonna have to reject the entire shipment and not even get in to the containers. Don’t need any contaminated materials
Ya think? This has me wondering how many "contaminated" shipments came through before the news broke. I'm not a "we're all gonna die" guy, but makes you wonder. No one seems too sure how this virus spreads.
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I’ve got 6 stuck in Wuhan harbor from when the govt shut them down last week. I think we’re gonna have to reject the entire shipment and not even get in to the containers. Don’t need any contaminated materials
How long does a virus live with out a host and how long does it take to get a shipment from there?
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Ya think? This has me wondering how many "contaminated" shipments came through before the news broke. I'm not a "we're all gonna die" guy, but makes you wonder. No one seems too sure how this virus spreads.
No more wish app junk for me.
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Old 01-31-2020, 07:15 PM   #29
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Better not let their dogs outside
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How long does a virus live with out a host and how long does it take to get a shipment from there?
not really sure, but I think that some can lie dormant for a loooong time.
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I had to look up wish app. And lol...
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not really sure, but I think that some can lie dormant for a loooong time.
Interesting, appreciate the response.
It would be scary if it could last weeks or longer. I guess if i had a shipment headed this way it would be a hard call to keep it and risk the worst or decline it
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From their actions it certainly looks like a country that has lost control of a possible pandemic. The good news -if there is any - is that the death rate so far is 3-4% vs close to 15% with the SARS outbreak. The Chinese government’s lack of transparency fuels the fire of panic. Is it really possible that the virus could survive in a container full of random goods?
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From their actions it certainly looks like a country that has lost control of a possible pandemic. The good news -if there is any - is that the death rate so far is 3-4% vs close to 15% with the SARS outbreak. The Chinese government’s lack of transparency fuels the fire of panic. Is it really possible that the virus could survive in a container full of random goods?
The problem is we have no idea what the mortality rate actually looks like. There was a video out a few days ago that showed dead folks laying all along a hall way and waiting room of a hospital.. Some supposed health worker put it on the net and it was reported by fox. I can't find it today. Guy said there were dead folks in the streets too and. Everyone was afraid to move them.
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Yep this,
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I've read that Mao killed 20 million implementing the communist regime, what's another 11 mill. to keep the regime in power and salvaging the economy!
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I've read that Mao killed 20 million implementing the communist regime, what's another 11 mill. to keep the regime in power and salvaging the economy!
Especially when you consider their population is in the billions. Craziness!
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:40 PM   #39
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Models from WHO, worst case scenario...

65 million dead, world wide.

Whatever the Chicoms are reporting, multiply by 3.
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The problem is we have no idea what the mortality rate actually looks like. There was a video out a few days ago that showed dead folks laying all along a hall way and waiting room of a hospital.. Some supposed health worker put it on the net and it was reported by fox. I can't find it today. Guy said there were dead folks in the streets too and. Everyone was afraid to move them.
This^^ We only know what the govt is telling us. We were told by one of our factory owners that they were piling bodies and burning them. Not sure where he learned that, he is stuck inside his home.

We don’t have containers on the water, but we have factories that haven’t re-opened from Chinese New Year and cannot receive our orders let alone begin working on them. And the question is how much of their workforce will be left remaining when it all ends
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Models from WHO, worst case scenario...

65 million dead, world wide.


Whatever the Chicoms are reporting, multiply by 3.
Source? I didn't see any estimates that high.
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Maybe they had plans to turn it loose in Hong Kong since things weren’t going so well between them.
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Source? I didn't see any estimates that high.
It wasn’t WHO’s estimates, but rather a group of researchers and foundations who ran a simulation eerily similar to Coronavirus

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...s-2020-1%3famp

Lots of tin foil could surround that situation
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For all we known its an engineered strain that's been introduced as a weapon by some nefarious government.....
I said weeks ago that it’s engineered by China. Tongue in cheek?....- meeeehhhhh.

I don’t know....
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So it wasn't eating undercooked bats?
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It wasn’t WHO’s estimates, but rather a group of researchers and foundations who ran a simulation eerily similar to Coronavirus

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...s-2020-1%3famp

Lots of tin foil could surround that situation
Wow, that's unsettling. The global markets didn't like it either, Dow down 600 today.
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I emailed my buddy in Guangzhou China this morning and he replied ITS MUCH WORSE than the China State Media is releasing.

No ones coming back to my factory either for 2 additional weeks.

Lots of rumor this was a government test gone WAY wrong. Certain strain inserted into the new virus.
I hope the rumors of government test gone are not true but the biotech lab in that area that is approved to study these deadly viruses has gotten very little mention.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...linked-chines/
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I hope the rumors of government test gone are not true but the biotech lab in that area that is approved to study these deadly viruses has gotten very little mention.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...linked-chines/
That's unsettling
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50 million died from the flu in 1918...500 million were sickened

I’m betting the Corona beer flu is gonna be ok
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Have not heard anything from our guys in China
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