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Old 10-19-2019, 01:33 PM   #6351
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Question for all you dads out there my sons 8, and as Iím starting this process Iíve learned the lifelong journey to draw in some of these limited entry 20+ pt areas. So it dawned on me while Iím entering in these to build up points i thought maybe each year i enter i enter my son as well. Then start a savings for him $5-10wk for if he ever hits have a fund account to afford an outfitter etc... anyone done something similar? Maybe get lucky and both hit before Iím to old


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When your son turns 10, you should start buying him points for AZ. You need a hunting license to apply and its only $5 for non resident youth compared to $160 for non resident adult. By the time heís 18, he will have around 9 points and could draw a good unit.
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Old 10-19-2019, 04:04 PM   #6352
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When your son turns 10, you should start buying him points for AZ. You need a hunting license to apply and its only $5 for non resident youth compared to $160 for non resident adult. By the time heís 18, he will have around 9 points and could draw a good unit.


This was my thought maybe enter as a party and go for his graduation gift or something along those lines.


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Old 10-21-2019, 05:32 PM   #6353
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Saw a bull and two cows this morning, couldn’t get a shot. Found a lot of elk sign that I’m gonna sit on tomorrow. Have till Friday evening.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:56 AM   #6354
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Saw a bull and two cows this morning, couldnít get a shot. Found a lot of elk sign that Iím gonna sit on tomorrow. Have till Friday evening.
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Old 10-22-2019, 02:40 PM   #6355
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Two questions...my original was two elk hunters, ( a seasoned elk Hunter, and myself a rookie) has most likely now dwindled to just me solo now. So what would be the biggest advice from the moment i step foot on the trail head? Iíve got a plan, and a proposed campsite, and projected paths Iíll take the following days. However i will have never seen this place outside of onx or google earth. Do i just take off to my planned camp or do i bugle along the way, break off here and there to find sign, etc?

2) Iíve been blessed to hunt whitetail hard for 25+ years, and i know there is plenty of unwritten rules in the woods between hunters. I hunt mainly private lands in the whitetail world, but was curious what are some unwritten rules that i should be considerate of to keep friction down should i encounter someone?

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Old 10-22-2019, 03:32 PM   #6356
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Personally I would try to find another friend or hunting buddy to go with you, regardless of their experience. It's obvious you're already putting in the effort in regards to preparation, another set of hands/eyes/ears and positive attitude will surely help. I think you certainly need a plan A-F.

2) We have yet to run into another hunter in the woods but have seen some at trailheads and have been surprised and pleased at the amount of info others would share. Certainly talk to anybody you get a chance, even the local guy who you see sitting on his trailer porch on the county road or the lady at the liquor store- info can be had everywhere. Talk to the other hunter and see if y'all can make an agreement on where each of you is hunting, IE you hit these two drainages and he the other two.

-Somebody who is still dreaming of their first elk
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Old 10-22-2019, 03:34 PM   #6357
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I've been on two western elk hunts, but here in Texas I've had as much or more elk action than out of state.. Almost sealed the deal two weekends ago...

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Old 10-22-2019, 03:45 PM   #6358
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Two questions...my original was two elk hunters, ( a seasoned elk Hunter, and myself a rookie) has most likely now dwindled to just me solo now. So what would be the biggest advice from the moment i step foot on the trail head? I’ve got a plan, and a proposed campsite, and projected paths I’ll take the following days. However i will have never seen this place outside of onx or google earth. Do i just take off to my planned camp or do i bugle along the way, break off here and there to find sign, etc?

2) I’ve been blessed to hunt whitetail hard for 25+ years, and i know there is plenty of unwritten rules in the woods between hunters. I hunt mainly private lands in the whitetail world, but was curious what are some unwritten rules that i should be considerate of to keep friction down should i encounter someone?

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I wouldn't worry about other people. I mean if you actively see or hear someone going after a particular bull or group of elk, give them their space. Likely it won't be a problem if you are far enough off the beaten path. If you are in area with lots of hunters......likely there won't be any elk anyways! I have never hunted public land for elk but I have a bunch of buddies who do it every year and they have never had a real problem. Everyone knows what you get when hunting public land. You can't get too mad when people are out doing the exact same thing you are. In the end it is all for fun. Be safe and have a way to contact someone if you get in a tight spot!

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Old 10-22-2019, 03:57 PM   #6359
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I wouldn't worry about other people. I mean if you actively see or hear someone going after a particular bull or group of elk, give them their space. Likely it won't be a problem if you are far enough off the beaten path. If you are in area with lots of hunters......likely there won't be any elk anyways! I have never hunted public land for elk but I have a bunch of buddies who do it every year and they have never had a real problem. Everyone knows what you get when hunting public land. You can't get too mad when people are out doing the exact same thing you are. In the end it is all for fun. Be safe and have a way to contact someone if you get in a tight spot!
It may not happen often, but I shot and hit bull. The bull turned to take a step and another hunter shot him too! I had heard a 4 wheeler stop above me and then drive off. I thought the other guy had left but he just set up about 50 yards away. We were both looking down into the same bowl. Anyway, the other hunter came running down to me claiming that the bull was his. I just laughed it off and told him to go get it.
I killed another bull the next morning out of the same hole.
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:13 PM   #6360
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It may not happen often, but I shot and hit bull. The bull turned to take a step and another hunter shot him too! I had heard a 4 wheeler stop above me and then drive off. I thought the other guy had left but he just set up about 50 yards away. We were both looking down into the same bowl. Anyway, the other hunter came running down to me claiming that the bull was his. I just laughed it off and told him to go get it.
I killed another bull the next morning out of the same hole.
That is crazy. That has to be 1 in a million. I mean think how hard it is to get a shot off at a bull with a bow and to have 2 people unaware of one another both within bow range and both actually take shots and connect on a bull within seconds of one another is crazy. Did you hit him well? Was your second bull bigger then the first?

I mean you typically hunt for a week and if you are lucky you get 1 maybe 2 opportunities that yield a shot.
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:30 PM   #6361
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Two questions...my original was two elk hunters, ( a seasoned elk Hunter, and myself a rookie) has most likely now dwindled to just me solo now. So what would be the biggest advice from the moment i step foot on the trail head? I’ve got a plan, and a proposed campsite, and projected paths I’ll take the following days. However i will have never seen this place outside of onx or google earth. Do i just take off to my planned camp or do i bugle along the way, break off here and there to find sign, etc?

2) I’ve been blessed to hunt whitetail hard for 25+ years, and i know there is plenty of unwritten rules in the woods between hunters. I hunt mainly private lands in the whitetail world, but was curious what are some unwritten rules that i should be considerate of to keep friction down should i encounter someone?

Thanks Corey


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Personally I would Try every thing You Can to Find another Partner. But, Only Take someone That Can Physically Do the Same as you or it will be a Major Set Back. As Far As Planned Camp Sights and Hunting Goes its good to Do your research ahead of Time But, Deep Down you Will End Up where You Find Fresh elk Sign or there is No point in Being There. Water IS the Key to Mark as far as Way Points More Than what we all think is the Perfect Camp Sight on a Map is. With Elk you Just Have to Keep a Open Mind and Grind it Out Every Day. Almost all of My Trips I never ended up Hunting the area where I had Planned too. With Out pre scouting It will Just Be a Crap Shoot Till You Find them Our Learn what to Not do Next Yr. Drought, Pressure, or Timing Changes what Area Might Work for Some But, Not for Others. Regardless that's all the Fun. If it was easy Everyone Would end up at the Same Spot
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Old 10-22-2019, 07:40 PM   #6362
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Personally I would Try every thing You Can to Find another Partner. But, Only Take someone That Can Physically Do the Same as you or it will be a Major Set Back. As Far As Planned Camp Sights and Hunting Goes its good to Do your research ahead of Time But, Deep Down you Will End Up where You Find Fresh elk Sign or there is No point in Being There. Water IS the Key to Mark as far as Way Points More Than what we all think is the Perfect Camp Sight on a Map is. With Elk you Just Have to Keep a Open Mind and Grind it Out Every Day. Almost all of My Trips I never ended up Hunting the area where I had Planned too. With Out pre scouting It will Just Be a Crap Shoot Till You Find them Our Learn what to Not do Next Yr. Drought, Pressure, or Timing Changes what Area Might Work for Some But, Not for Others. Regardless that's all the Fun. If it was easy Everyone Would end up at the Same Spot


Thanks bo Iíll be scratching to find someone, my buddy may make it but itís looking more like a no than a yes. So Iím just going to plan accordingly i surely donít want to drag someone along thatís only going to hinder me. If i canít find someone I guess Iíll be investing in some sort of gps/text system. Iíve also kicked around a SAR AN MEDVAC plan for peace of mind.


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Old 10-23-2019, 01:19 AM   #6363
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I am truly blessed today. This is my second time elk hunting in Colorado. I have learned a lot and the hard work payed off. Not a big one, but a public land elk is a trophy in my book.
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:31 AM   #6364
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:35 AM   #6365
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I am truly blessed today. This is my second time elk hunting in Colorado. I have learned a lot and the hard work payed off. Not a big one, but a public land elk is a trophy in my book.
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Old 10-23-2019, 06:43 AM   #6366
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Great work! Hard earned bull and lots of top notch table fare!
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Old 10-23-2019, 10:00 AM   #6367
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Congrats!!! Any public land elk is indeed a trophy, and you got a bull at that!
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Old 10-23-2019, 10:03 AM   #6368
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Personally I would try to find another friend or hunting buddy to go with you, regardless of their experience. It's obvious you're already putting in the effort in regards to preparation, another set of hands/eyes/ears and positive attitude will surely help. I think you certainly need a plan A-F.



2) We have yet to run into another hunter in the woods but have seen some at trailheads and have been surprised and pleased at the amount of info others would share. Certainly talk to anybody you get a chance, even the local guy who you see sitting on his trailer porch on the county road or the lady at the liquor store- info can be had everywhere. Talk to the other hunter and see if y'all can make an agreement on where each of you is hunting, IE you hit these two drainages and he the other two.



-Somebody who is still dreaming of their first elk


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Old 10-23-2019, 10:16 AM   #6369
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Personally bowhunting is not a real team sport for me. I will go alone any day of the week because more than one is more scent, more noise, more mistakes made.
Checking your wind constantly is going to be your best friend. Nothing like spending 6 hours trying to get close enough for a shot amongst lots of eyes and noses and ears to get winded and blow the whole deal.
When you are alone you are focused and in the zone, I love hunting with my brother (best hunter I will ever know) but still we break apart and meet up later.
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:11 PM   #6370
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Finished my Montana elk season. No shots, passed on a 4x4 at 180 yards waiting for the 2, 6x6 bedded behind him to come out. Crosshairs on the chest but held the shot.

Second one I saw hunting solo 100 yards above me in pines. I could not see from front legs forward. Had crosshairs on chest laying prone on bipod for seemed minutes, but could pull not seeing the whole elk. He turned up and away- massive elk- no shot. Still trying to decide if I was ethical or a fool- I hope the former.

Walked upstairs to take a shower and start washing my gear to put away, and hereís the elk herd across the street on private, no hunting property.

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Old 12-15-2019, 10:06 AM   #6371
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I know everyone is pretty much done thinking about elk for the year but I havent even gotten started yet. I have a late season archery 6 point bull hunt coming up this week. It should be super fun with all the bulls Ive been seeing but it may be tough to get an arrow in one. A friend is coming from TX to hunt with me. Ill put up some pictures as we go.

Heres just a couple of the legal bulls Ive found so far.

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Old 12-15-2019, 11:51 AM   #6372
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I know everyone is pretty much done thinking about elk for the year but I havent even gotten started yet. I have a late season archery 6 point bull hunt coming up this week. It should be super fun with all the bulls Ive been seeing but it may be tough to get an arrow in one. A friend is coming from TX to hunt with me. Ill put up some pictures as we go.

Heres just a couple of the legal bulls Ive found so far.

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Confused by your post, does it have to be a 6 point or is this your personal criteria? Either way, good luck on your hunt.
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Old 12-15-2019, 12:03 PM   #6373
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Old 12-16-2019, 12:25 PM   #6374
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I know everyone is pretty much done thinking about elk for the year but I havent even gotten started yet. I have a late season archery 6 point bull hunt coming up this week. It should be super fun with all the bulls Ive been seeing but it may be tough to get an arrow in one. A friend is coming from TX to hunt with me. Ill put up some pictures as we go.

Heres just a couple of the legal bulls Ive found so far.
You hunting there in your home town? Love that place.
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Old 12-22-2019, 01:00 PM   #6375
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My back yard yesterday. The buggers must know the seasonís over and they wanted to bug me.






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Old 12-26-2019, 08:58 PM   #6376
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One of the better bulls we found during the hunt
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We spent a lot of time glassing. Aside from hiking that is about all we did the whole trip.

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With just a couple days left I got a chance to stalk some cows and it ended up producing some meat.

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On the last day with maybe an hour of light left my partner got a solid stalk on a couple bulls. He ended up being in just the right spot and got a shot. It was the coolest thing Ive ever seen to watch the stalk from start to finish with the bull going down about 10 yards from him. He couldnt have planned it better.

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This hunt had a 4% success rate last year so to say Im happy with the outcome would be a big understatement!

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Old 12-27-2019, 06:06 AM   #6378
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Man thatís awesome!
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:43 AM   #6379
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This hunt had a 4% success rate last year so to say Im happy with the outcome would be a big understatement!
This was a great year for size in 34. Guided for my friend in September. We saw some really big bulls.
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Old 12-27-2019, 10:57 AM   #6380
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Very cool, congrats to both you guys!
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Old 01-01-2020, 08:06 PM   #6381
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Wyoming apps coming in hot! Should draw this year, need to redeem myself from shooting over a big bull in 2018 with my longbow.
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Old 01-01-2020, 09:26 PM   #6382
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Man this is some great info. for someone looking into an elk hunt in the coming years!
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Old 01-01-2020, 09:40 PM   #6383
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Need to start learning to string walk and gap shoot this year before your hunt
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Old 01-01-2020, 10:19 PM   #6384
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Just wait until October and shoot them with a 7 mag!!! 👍🏻
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Old 02-08-2020, 07:32 PM   #6385
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Thanks bo Iíll be scratching to find someone, my buddy may make it but itís looking more like a no than a yes. So Iím just going to plan accordingly i surely donít want to drag someone along thatís only going to hinder me. If i canít find someone I guess Iíll be investing in some sort of gps/text system. Iíve also kicked around a SAR AN MEDVAC plan for peace of mind.


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Me, my brother and my son are looking at 9/5 thru 9/12.

Looking good into SW Colorado. Welcome to talk it through and make it a bigger group...we are all rookies in the mountains but lifelong outdoorsmen. Our plan is to hike in and stay while carrying everything on our backs...when we come out it will be with elk meat
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Old 02-09-2020, 10:44 AM   #6386
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Me, my brother and my son are looking at 9/5 thru 9/12.



Looking good into SW Colorado. Welcome to talk it through and make it a bigger group...we are all rookies in the mountains but lifelong outdoorsmen. Our plan is to hike in and stay while carrying everything on our backs...when we come out it will be with elk meat
Make sure you keep up with the new regulations. Many of those SW OTC archery units will no longer be OTC next fall.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:10 AM   #6387
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I’m in for WY and AZ. I should draw WY this year or next and hopefully AZ in about 2 more years.
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Old 02-12-2020, 10:25 AM   #6388
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Sent in my Arizona yearly tithe. About to do the same for Utah and Nevada, as I have no hope in drawing the units I want yet. May try an OTC Colorado tag if I can’t draw NM this year.
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:06 PM   #6389
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Got my points in for Arizona elk and lope, going points in Colorado for deer elk and lope, Wyoming for deer elk and lope points in July, New Mexico for deer and elk tags, Montana for general elk
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Old 02-12-2020, 12:30 PM   #6390
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‘Tis the draw season!

I’m in on AZ elk and antelope. Will apply for Wyoming Elk/Deer/Antelope and may try to draw a hunt or two there next year with the changes in NonRes opportunities. Will do points in Colorado for elk/bear/pronghorn and going to try and draw a deer tag. Points for Montana deer/elk/antelope/archery antelope. Will apply for points again in Utah for Elk/Deer/Antelope/Both Sheep/Goat.
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Old 02-13-2020, 03:18 PM   #6391
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Bought points in AZ for me and my oldest who just turned 10 a couple weeks ago. I sure wish someone had been buying points for me back in the day. Lucky sucker!
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Old 02-13-2020, 07:26 PM   #6392
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Make sure you keep up with the new regulations. Many of those SW OTC archery units will no longer be OTC next fall.
Driving us nuts as I type...

Curious why the restrictions on archery and not gun?

Looking for the 2020 book to come out so we can settle dates, probably going mule deer and bear after this fall
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Old 02-14-2020, 12:18 AM   #6393
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ĎTis the draw season!

Iím in on AZ elk and antelope. Will apply for Wyoming Elk/Deer/Antelope and may try to draw a hunt or two there next year with the changes in NonRes opportunities. Will do points in Colorado for elk/bear/pronghorn and going to try and draw a deer tag. Points for Montana deer/elk/antelope/archery antelope. Will apply for points again in Utah for Elk/Deer/Antelope/Both Sheep/Goat.


I really hope WY doesnít pass those new regulations. Seems like most are against it. I picked WY as my state to build points in.


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Old 02-14-2020, 08:56 AM   #6394
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Driving us nuts as I type...



Curious why the restrictions on archery and not gun?



Looking for the 2020 book to come out so we can settle dates, probably going mule deer and bear after this fall
I don't know the reasoning of restricting one over the other. Perhaps the thought is many elk are on private by the rifle seasons?
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Old 02-14-2020, 09:15 AM   #6395
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^^^this would be my guess too. Also there are starting to be just as many bow/muzzle loader hunters as rifle.
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Old 02-14-2020, 10:23 AM   #6396
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I really hope WY doesnít pass those new regulations. Seems like most are against it. I picked WY as my state to build points in.


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Bill didnít pass
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Old 02-14-2020, 12:39 PM   #6397
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I really hope WY doesnít pass those new regulations. Seems like most are against it. I picked WY as my state to build points in.


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It failed but had me sweating. Maxed out for elk and deer points, that bill was going to ruffle some feathers for sure. Wyoga was against it and nothing gets done up there without them on board.
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Old 02-14-2020, 05:32 PM   #6398
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It failed but had me sweating. Maxed out for elk and deer points, that bill was going to ruffle some feathers for sure. Wyoga was against it and nothing gets done up there without them on board.


Thanks for the update. Good news!


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