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Old 03-04-2021, 07:31 PM   #101
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Update on Wyoming NR bill, it failed in committee.
However, Sy made it clear the outfitters association wants $1400 regular elk tags and $2000 in the special draw. Remember that when you are looking for a Wyoming elk hunt.
Would love to hear their reasoning on why. Outfitters are extremely expensive in Wyoming as it is. Iím still building points.
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Old 03-04-2021, 08:07 PM   #102
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Something to think about, if Texas were to allocate let's say 95% of drawn tags to residents like some of you are thinking then it would guarantee 5% of tags go to nonresidents. I'm not sure that's what we want as I doubt there's any NR's who put in for a lot of these hunts and with the way the odds work I'm not sure we want to guarantee any tags go to NR's.
This. Yíall want to be careful how you word it. Or they will say 90% residents 10% nonresidents guaranteeing them tags. Should be something like no more than 5% of tags can go to nonresidents. And none can be drawn if there are fewer that x numbers of tags. Or must buy license to apply.
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Old 03-04-2021, 11:15 PM   #103
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$100 a month for next 30-40 years. Something ridiculous like that if I remember correctly.
Thats about what Mr. 278 paid, not sure they put him on that generous of a payment plan
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Old 03-05-2021, 07:39 AM   #104
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I think you are going to have to start buying the $264 non res hunting license as well, or is that refunded to you if unsuccessful?

If so Iím out of Idaho going forward. I hunt Idaho about every three years on OTC archery elk and deer.

Epic does my applications, Iíll call this morning and ask
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Old 03-05-2021, 07:41 AM   #105
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Would love to hear their reasoning on why. Outfitters are extremely expensive in Wyoming as it is. I’m still building points.
Increase draw odds for clients and lower point creep. Essentially pricing a % NR DIY guy out

It’s like the outfitter pool in NM.

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Old 03-05-2021, 09:54 AM   #106
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Would love to hear their reasoning on why. Outfitters are extremely expensive in Wyoming as it is. Iím still building points.
Our outfitters ***. would love to have all NR have to use an outfitter. They are behind the wilderness guide law for NR in Wyoming also.

The bill got kicked back to the Wildlife Task Force which will tweak it and propose something later, maybe this year but probably next session. That group is not going to be very friendly to NR I fear , outfitters have a strong voice in Wyoming, fading a bit though. Residents have been stepping up to get their voiced heard over the outfitters.
As residents lots of us have family or friends that like to come up and hunt Wyoming, not many want the higher prices or very limited tags for NR, more LQ tags for residents is our main push.

Just remember you all pushing for less NR draws also, other states look at that and you may be responsible for getting your NR tags reduced in some states as reciprocity.

Like I stated, now NR get 20-25% of our quota, that includes sheep and moose. Does Texas really give that many NR the tags in your draw?
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:47 AM   #107
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Just remember you all pushing for less NR draws also, other states look at that and you may be responsible for getting your NR tags reduced in some states as reciprocity.

Like I stated, now NR get 20-25% of our quota, that includes sheep and moose. Does Texas really give that many NR the tags in your draw?
That's the problem. There currently is no reciprocity in Texas to the western states that limit tags. I would prefer it more open on all sides, but since that's a pipe dream we should limit tags by some degree for now.
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:05 AM   #108
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My survey suggestions.

Non-residents should have to pay more. Even if it is just a higher application fee. $10 instead of $3. Not eligible for premium hunts at all.

Increase standby opportunities. All hunts should allow standbys. If the biologist has determined the amount of animals that need to be harvested and the number of permits is based on that, why in the world would standbys not be available to fill the needed positions? Because it takes personnel to accommodate the standby hunters? Isn't that what they are paid for? To manage the habitat? Maybe allow non-department personnel to take on-line training and get certified to help conduct the hunts. Charge them for the training and "pay" them with a loyalty point in that category. What would it cost TPWD except for setting up the training which would be reimbursed by the applicants.

Increase non-deer draw hunts. Feral hogs are destroying the state yet the number of hog hunts has barely changed. In 2010/2011 9 areas had public hog hunts. This year 11 areas do.

Alligator populations are expanding but hunts are not. I'm not sure what effect the freeze had if any.

Allow for the purchase of a loyalty point instead of drawing.
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Old 03-05-2021, 07:24 PM   #109
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when is the application period for the '21-'22 hunting season. I thought it started in March
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:04 PM   #110
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Our outfitters ***. would love to have all NR have to use an outfitter. They are behind the wilderness guide law for NR in Wyoming also.

The bill got kicked back to the Wildlife Task Force which will tweak it and propose something later, maybe this year but probably next session. That group is not going to be very friendly to NR I fear , outfitters have a strong voice in Wyoming, fading a bit though. Residents have been stepping up to get their voiced heard over the outfitters.
As residents lots of us have family or friends that like to come up and hunt Wyoming, not many want the higher prices or very limited tags for NR, more LQ tags for residents is our main push.

Just remember you all pushing for less NR draws also, other states look at that and you may be responsible for getting your NR tags reduced in some states as reciprocity.

Like I stated, now NR get 20-25% of our quota, that includes sheep and moose. Does Texas really give that many NR the tags in your draw?
Non resident has the EXACT SAME chance to draw ANY tag in Texas as any resident. And extremely cheap I might add.
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:07 PM   #111
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Non resident has the EXACT SAME chance to draw ANY tag in Texas as any resident. And extremely cheap I might add.
But, 20% of tags in Wyoming go to NR guaranteed. Yall think 20% of Texas draws are going to NR's? I'd bet it's more like 1% simply because they just don't apply.
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Old 03-05-2021, 10:21 PM   #112
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But, 20% of tags in Wyoming go to NR guaranteed. Yall think 20% of Texas draws are going to NR's? I'd bet it's more like 1% simply because they just don't apply.
But they arenít restricted. No cap like we have in other states. None. Zero.
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Old 03-06-2021, 12:43 AM   #113
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But they arenít restricted. No cap like we have in other states. None. Zero.
Why would you cap something that doesn't have any demand? If you follow Wyoming example you'd cap the Texas NR draw at 20%, something that's maybe getting 1% NR draw naturally without a cap. Wyoming guarantees 20% of the tags to go to NR's, that's definitely not something we wanna do with Texas.
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Old 03-06-2021, 01:55 AM   #114
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Why would you cap something that doesn't have any demand? If you follow Wyoming example you'd cap the Texas NR draw at 20%, something that's maybe getting 1% NR draw naturally without a cap. Wyoming guarantees 20% of the tags to go to NR's, that's definitely not something we wanna do with Texas.
I understand. My point was that we do not limit them. We donít restrict how many can draw like they do us. Thatís all. Iím not in support of a certain percent only going to NRs. Not at all what I was saying. I guess yíall missed my point.

Not like any of us draw the **** tags either
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Old 03-07-2021, 01:34 PM   #115
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Not like any of us draw the **** tags either
Lol that's the truth!
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Old 03-07-2021, 01:38 PM   #116
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I may have been guilty of DWT, drinking while TBHing.

Lol that's the truth!

Thereís lots of drunk posting that happens here.


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