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Ag 89 · 03-05-2021, 07:43 AM

I have not watched national news for several months. However, last night I was watching local news and they were covering the National Guard "protecting" the Capital. I noticed that not a single soldier they showed had a magazine in his rifle. Is this SOP to guard something with an unloaded rifle?

gingib · 03-05-2021, 07:45 AM

Blows my mind! How stupid

Pokey · 03-05-2021, 07:50 AM

An unloaded Rifle is just an awkward club!

Pushbutton2 · 03-05-2021, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ag 89

I have not watched national news for several months. However, last night I was watching local news and they were covering the National Guard "protecting" the Capital. I noticed that not a single soldier they showed had a magazine in his rifle. Is this SOP to guard something with an unloaded rifle?

It wasn't when I was an active duty Marine. We even had a round chambered.

I believe it's all part of the Democrat narrative for gun confiscations

Oh we don't FEEL safe look what extreme measures WE HAVE to take to FEEL safe.
The ONLY way we'll safe is to outlaw all the guns and do away with the 2nd Amendment..

okrattler · 03-05-2021, 07:53 AM

If I was protecting Biden I'd forget to put the magazine in mine too.

At the first sign of trouble I'd drop my rifle and point my finger at the threat. Pew,pew,bang,bang,bang,pow,pow!!!

camoclad · 03-05-2021, 08:46 AM

Might have something to do with the military not being able to take up arms against its citizenry in the constitution.

Charles · 03-05-2021, 10:12 AM

I heard a blip that the NG are having to sleep on concrete in parking garages and feed raw or under cooked meat. Several Guards became sick.

Outlaw_6 · 03-05-2021, 03:24 PM

Retired Guard here. Doesn’t surprise me for second.

Trust me, they are far more likely to have a negligent discharge in this situation than to have to engage “a threat”. No general is wanting to have to explain some round going off and bouncing off the capitol building.

They probably do carry a magazine or few in their pockets.

friscopaint · 03-05-2021, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushbutton2

It wasn't when I was an active duty Marine. We even had a round chambered.

I believe it's all part of the Democrat narrative for gun confiscations

Oh we don't FEEL safe look what extreme measures WE HAVE to take to FEEL safe.
The ONLY way we'll safe is to outlaw all the guns and do away with the 2nd Amendment..

Wasn't the case in Beirut. Marine mag wells empty...lesson learned, what I heard while in those years.

friscopaint · 03-05-2021, 03:45 PM

Maybe 30 rd mags are illegal in DC

tvc184 · 03-05-2021, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by camoclad

Might have something to do with the military not being able to take up arms against its citizenry in the constitution.

I don’t think there is such a section in the Constitution.

Even the Posse Comitatus Act which forbids the Army and Air Force to enforce civilian laws, doesn’t cover the NG unless they are activated. That is from law, ot the Constitution.

Ag 89 · 03-05-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Outlaw_6

Retired Guard here. Doesn’t surprise me for second.

Trust me, they are far more likely to have a negligent discharge in this situation than to have to engage “a threat”. No general is wanting to have to explain some round going off and bouncing off the capitol building.

They probably do carry a magazine or few in their pockets.

Kind of what I figured. Not a real threat. There for show (politics) to scare people. Have bullets close by in case they were wrong. Just feel bad for the soldiers that have to stand there with an unloaded weapon. Knowing that if it really hits the fan, they are going to be too slow and not really prepared.

Pushbutton2 · 03-05-2021, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by friscopaint

Wasn't the case in Beirut. Marine mag wells empty...lesson learned, what I heard while in those years.

txchuck · 03-05-2021, 08:46 PM

didnt want any antifa members shot

LFD2037 · 03-05-2021, 10:31 PM

My understanding is there’s different “levels” of protection, or guard, they provide.
Level 1 full mag, locked and loaded
Level 2 no mags/ammo in weapon
Level 3 no mags/ammo on person
Level 4 no weapons
I don’t remember what they’re called so I just called it levels. They may be colors (green, orange, red, whatever) or something along these lines.

This could be all wrong but I read it somewhere when all this started going down.

sailor · 03-06-2021, 03:47 AM

I would say, it was to avoid any mishaps.............
Nothing negative against the Guard....
But many of them, don't handle a weapon, on a daily basis.........

And there are two things, you can't take back.............
"A round out of your chamber"
And "words from your mouth"...........

03-05-2021, 07:43 AM	#1
Ag 89 Four Point Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SETX Hunt In: Segovia, Menard	Question about National Guard I have not watched national news for several months. However, last night I was watching local news and they were covering the National Guard "protecting" the Capital. I noticed that not a single soldier they showed had a magazine in his rifle. Is this SOP to guard something with an unloaded rifle?

03-05-2021, 07:53 AM	#5
okrattler Pope & Young Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oklahoma Panhandle Hunt In: Oklahoma	If I was protecting Biden I'd forget to put the magazine in mine too. At the first sign of trouble I'd drop my rifle and point my finger at the threat. Pew,pew,bang,bang,bang,pow,pow!!! Last edited by okrattler; 03-05-2021 at 08:04 AM.

03-05-2021, 03:24 PM	#8
Outlaw_6 Pope & Young Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: DFW Area Hunt In: LA and "The H"	Question about National Guard Retired Guard here. Doesn’t surprise me for second. Trust me, they are far more likely to have a negligent discharge in this situation than to have to engage “a threat”. No general is wanting to have to explain some round going off and bouncing off the capitol building. They probably do carry a magazine or few in their pockets.

03-05-2021, 10:31 PM	#15
LFD2037 Pope & Young Join Date: Dec 2009 Hunt In: Over yonder	My understanding is there’s different “levels” of protection, or guard, they provide. Level 1 full mag, locked and loaded Level 2 no mags/ammo in weapon Level 3 no mags/ammo on person Level 4 no weapons I don’t remember what they’re called so I just called it levels. They may be colors (green, orange, red, whatever) or something along these lines. This could be all wrong but I read it somewhere when all this started going down. Last edited by LFD2037; 03-05-2021 at 10:33 PM.

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03-05-2021, 07:45 AM	#2
gingib Pope & Young Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Tx Hunt In: NTX	Blows my mind! How stupid

03-05-2021, 07:50 AM	#3
Pokey Six Point Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lockhart,Texas Hunt In: Mexico,Caldwell Co.	An unloaded Rifle is just an awkward club!

03-05-2021, 08:46 AM	#6
camoclad Ten Point Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: fort worth Hunt In: central tx	Might have something to do with the military not being able to take up arms against its citizenry in the constitution.

03-05-2021, 10:12 AM	#7
Charles Pope & Young Join Date: Oct 2006	I heard a blip that the NG are having to sleep on concrete in parking garages and feed raw or under cooked meat. Several Guards became sick.

03-05-2021, 03:45 PM	#10
friscopaint Ten Point Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Collinsville	Maybe 30 rd mags are illegal in DC

03-05-2021, 08:46 PM	#14
txchuck Six Point Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: North Texas & Central La.	didnt want any antifa members shot

03-06-2021, 03:47 AM	#16
sailor Pope & Young Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas Hunt In: Texas	I would say, it was to avoid any mishaps............. Nothing negative against the Guard.... But many of them, don't handle a weapon, on a daily basis......... And there are two things, you can't take back............. "A round out of your chamber" And "words from your mouth"...........