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Old 12-02-2019, 04:25 PM   #1
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Default Processor wouldn’t give my son his deer head until meat is processed

I have always just had the processor cut the deer head or antlers off and bring them home with me. My son shot a buck last weekend and wanted to bring the head back and have a skull mount done. The processor would not give him the deer head and said the game warden told them they have to keep the head with the deer until it was quartered. I called the game warden to make sure this was correct and he said the processor was correct.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:27 PM   #2
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:28 PM   #3
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:30 PM   #4
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That’s what i thought until he sent me a screen shot of the rule in the hunting book.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:32 PM   #5
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Next time cape it out, quarter it up and then take the meat up there. Cheaper that way anyway.


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Old 12-02-2019, 04:34 PM   #6
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He talked like you could get a ticket if you have the deer head without having the meat quartered or processed.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:36 PM   #7
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:36 PM   #8
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That’s what i thought until he sent me a screen shot of the rule in the hunting book.
Post that screenshot. Tag is the only thing required to stay with the meat.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:36 PM   #9
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That’s what i thought until he sent me a screen shot of the rule in the hunting book.
Tag stays with meat. Processor should have a wildlife resource document (WRD) he can supply you with he's being that by the book.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/...e_document.pdf

I've never left a head with Cinnamon Creek.

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Old 12-02-2019, 04:37 PM   #10
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He talked like you could get a ticket if you have the deer head without having the meat quartered or processed.
If he's processing wild game and doesn't know the law, especially something as basic as that, he's going to end up getting himself in trouble.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:42 PM   #11
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Proof of Sex
Valid Sep. 1, 2019 through Aug. 31, 2020.
Deer or Pronghorn Antelope
Notice: It is unlawful to possess a deer or pronghorn antelope with proof of sex removed unless the deer or antelope is at a final destination and has been quartered. Proof of sex includes one of the following:

the head (skinned or unskinned) of a buck deer with antlers attached;
the head (skinned or unskinned) of an antlerless deer;
the unskinned head of a pronghorn; or
a completed Managed Lands Deer Program (MLDP) Tag, Antlerless Mule Deer Permit, CWD Check Station Receipt, or TPWD Drawn Hunt Legal Deer Tag.
It is unlawful to remove the head or antlers (proof of sex) of deer or pronghorn at a commercial processor until the carcass has been quartered and entered into the cold storage logbook.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:43 PM   #12
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You have to have proof of sex to accompany the meat/deer to its final destination i/e the processor. The processor then takes the tag and can/will/supposed to give you a wildlife resource document to accompany you to the taxi or your home. Same is also true if you take the head and cape to the taxi first you should get the wildlife resource document for proof of sex when you drop off the meat with the processor.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:43 PM   #13
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:44 PM   #14
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Nothing new.
Wildlife resource document will allow the head/cape to be possessed separate from the tag legally.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:46 PM   #15
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Figured I would post here and maybe save someone a ticket.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:46 PM   #16
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Tag stays with meat. Processor should have a wildlife resource document (WRD) he can supply you with he's being that by the book.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/...e_document.pdf

I've never left a head with Cinnamon Creek.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:50 PM   #17
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The way he explained it to me was a WRD would not apply unless you took the deer to the taxidermist first and dropped the head off. Then you would get a WRD to take with you. He said it doesn’t work the other way around unless the deer has been quartered. He was a very nice guy btw.
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Old 12-02-2019, 04:52 PM   #18
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At first I thought it was about tagging and the meat, but it's a proof of sex issue.

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Post that screenshot. Tag is the only thing required to stay with the meat.
"It is unlawful to remove the head or antlers (proof of sex) of deer or pronghorn at a commercial processor until the carcass has been quartered and entered into the cold storage logbook."

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OP - Like someone else said, quarter and take him the meat and tag and you're good to go.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:01 PM   #19
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Yep the meat and the tag is all I've ever taken to a processor. They don't need the head
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:11 PM   #20
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At first I thought it was about tagging and the meat, but it's a proof of sex issue.



"It is unlawful to remove the head or antlers (proof of sex) of deer or pronghorn at a commercial processor until the carcass has been quartered and entered into the cold storage logbook."

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OP - Like someone else said, quarter and take him the meat and tag and you're good to go.
Same here......I haven't taken a whole deer to a processor, just the quarters which law only requires the tag to stay with the meat.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:24 PM   #21
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You could always leave the balls attached to the hide for proof of sex and take the head. After reading the regs, apparently balls don’t count as proof of sex. I have never left a head at the processor but i usually skin and quarter before i take them in. Guess we learn something new every day.
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:55 PM   #22
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I've had some do that, never thought it was a big deal.
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Old 12-02-2019, 06:21 PM   #23
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Texas is so hot, I have always quartered the deer and dropped it off on way home from the lease. I throw the head in the processors dumpster if it’s a doe. And take it with me with a wildlife resource document if a buck.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:06 PM   #24
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Hate to even bring it up but I wonder if in an AR county it's to verify 13".
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:17 PM   #25
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Interesting. We were just discussing how most guys don't bother to do anything but shoot and drop off their deer.
I have seldom dropped off a field dressed deer. In fact the only time I did was one I killed at the ranch in 17* and I field dressed it and drove home. Next morning it was a solid chunk so she went in whole.
The bucks are already beheaded by the time they get to the processor.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:20 PM   #26
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There is a shortage of whitetails so they have to keep track of them all.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:25 PM   #27
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it is because the deer was not quartered. if you had it quartered in an ice chest it would have been no issue. any reason why you didnt quarter it? sure makes processing fee cheaper if you bring it in quartered
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:36 PM   #28
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When you gut it leave the balls attached. Lol. There is your proof of sex and take the head/antlers with ya! Problem solved.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:41 PM   #29
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Hate to even bring it up but I wonder if in an AR county it's to verify 13".
Yes he told me it’s the AR that caused the rule.
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Old 12-02-2019, 07:44 PM   #30
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The real issue is your tag is for antlered or no antlered deer. Proof of sex is neither. I have seen does with antlers and bucks that were slick heads.

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Old 12-02-2019, 07:57 PM   #31
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You have to have proof of sex to accompany the meat/deer to its final destination i/e the processor. The processor then takes the tag and can/will/supposed to give you a wildlife resource document to accompany you to the taxi or your home. Same is also true if you take the head and cape to the taxi first you should get the wildlife resource document for proof of sex when you drop off the meat with the processor.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:23 PM   #32
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Yes he told me it’s the AR that caused the rule.
Makes sense.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:36 PM   #33
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You could always leave the balls attached to the hide for proof of sex and take the head. After reading the regs, apparently balls don’t count as proof of sex. I have never left a head at the processor but i usually skin and quarter before i take them in. Guess we learn something new every day.


Antlers couldn’t necessarily be used to determine sex either, my mom shot a doe that had antlers.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:45 PM   #34
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He just wants to hang onto your head to make sure you come & pay for the work...good grief, I do all my own now, but I've taken deer & taken / left the horns, just quarters & only even deboned meat to the processor without any problems by just leaving the tag, so I can only guess this is recent AR county or change.

It's been a long time since I've paid for processing.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:46 PM   #35
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Hate to even bring it up but I wonder if in an AR county it's to verify 13".
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Yes he told me it’s the AR that caused the rule.
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Makes sense.



The proof of sex law has been around longer than antler restrictions. There's still plenty of Counties without AR laws, but they still have to abide by the proof of sex law.

It's also perfectly legal to write a WRD to yourself. Take your deer head home, then take the meat and tag to the processor.
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Old 12-02-2019, 08:49 PM   #36
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I killed a deer years ago around Lake Fork, and had to be in Maryland in 2days.(Pulling my boat),. Took my deer to a local processor and went through this same crap. I no longer take anything to a commercial processor. I hate technicalities, and hate spending $ on processing that I can do myself. Bought equipment and do all processing myself. I hate this happened to you.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:07 PM   #37
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He talked like you could get a ticket if you have the deer head without having the meat quartered or processed.

Tell the processor to give you a wildlife resource document and take the head and document with you to the final destination.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:09 PM   #38
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My processor has never asked me to leave the head. I typically take a skinned deer in with head removed.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:16 PM   #39
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Post that screenshot. Tag is the only thing required to stay with the meat.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:21 PM   #40
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Well, pray tell, do say the name of the processor so we don't go, or maybe we do go. What am I talking about, I haven't shot a buck bbn in 4 years lol.

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Old 12-02-2019, 09:24 PM   #41
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The deer wasn’t quartered. It has to be quartered to take the head with you. The regulation has been posted word for word. If the deer was brought in quartered he could have taken the head.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:27 PM   #42
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Do you drop your deer off just field dressed? The way I read that is once I drop it off quartered and it enters their cooler and logged I’m good...
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:28 PM   #43
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Always quarter mine. Part of the fun!
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:42 PM   #44
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Reading this thread gave me stomach cramps.
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Old 12-02-2019, 09:47 PM   #45
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Used to be that if you took the deer home, cut it all up and then took what you wanted ground / made into sausage that you didn't even need a tag

Has been years since I did that so would not be surprised if that changed

I just process myself, or if in a bind take quarters in and fill out paperwork and leave tag
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Old 12-02-2019, 10:08 PM   #46
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The way I understand the law, the processor is correct. But if you took the deer to your Taxidermist first he could remove the head and provide you with a "proof of sex" receipt. Then you could take the carcass to the processor.

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Old 12-02-2019, 10:27 PM   #47
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The "used to be's " on this thread crack me up...
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Old 12-02-2019, 10:31 PM   #48
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Old 12-02-2019, 10:34 PM   #49
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The way I understand the law, the processor is correct. But if you took the deer to your Taxidermist first he could remove the head and provide you with a "proof of sex" receipt. Then you could take the carcass to the processor.

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This is exactly what the GW told me. He said a WRD will not work for taking the deer head from the processor because it has to be quartered and logged into the logbook-( once it is quartered and logged no tag or WRD is required to take the head)The way he explained it the processor could also be ticketed if the head was removed by them and the deer was not quartered or processed. Clear Fork processor in Graham.
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Old 12-02-2019, 10:37 PM   #50
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Some of you struggle with reading comprehension...

Rule is clear for the situation the OP described. IF he had already quartered it then no, he would not need to leave the head.
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