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Old 05-26-2022, 02:50 PM   #1
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My sister called today because she knows I drive a diesel but it's a older one so it doesn't take DEF, anyway she said there is a shortage coming so you better stock up. She's a far righty and is into all that stuff so I'm guessing she is right.

Just passing it on.
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Old 05-26-2022, 02:51 PM   #2
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Someone said there was a shortage coming a few months ago but nada so far...
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:27 PM   #3
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:29 PM   #4
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If I knew someone who would delete my truck in the weatherford area -i'd be all over it!!
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:31 PM   #5
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If I knew someone who would delete my truck in the weatherford area -i'd be all over it!!
You have FB? Plenty of people out here that do it. (I had my last two done in dallas since it was close to the office).
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Old 05-26-2022, 05:56 PM   #6
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Things like this tend to take a while to ramp up. Both Russia and China amongst other countries make urea which is used in fertilizers as well as DEF. Well, Russia and China decided a few months back to stop exporting urea. This was the first clue that shortages would be coming. Fast forward a few months and India has decided to stop exporting urea as well. For reference, India was the worlds largest exporter of urea a couple of years ago, so to hear that they stopped exporting is something that will cause major ripples across the DEF supply chain.


The big question we have now is how long will our current supply of DEF last before we start seeing shortages. That I do not have an answer to. We aren’t going to run completely out of DEF, but it will start to get harder to find, and it will be more and more expensive as time goes by when you do find it.
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:22 PM   #7
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I was asked by a coworker- and I don't have the answer- but he saw a guy online pouring straight water in his DEF tank and saying it worked- no CEL or DEF system alarms.

Anybody tried it?
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:23 PM   #8
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Enough people start talking about a shortage and enough people will start hoarding it. Wallah! Shortage. I remember when you couldnít by freaking toilet paper, no shortage, just hoarding.
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:30 PM   #9
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Enough people start talking about a shortage and enough people will start hoarding it. Wallah! Shortage. I remember when you couldnít by freaking toilet paper, no shortage, just hoarding.
That is not the case here.
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:31 PM   #10
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I was asked by a coworker- and I don't have the answer- but he saw a guy online pouring straight water in his DEF tank and saying it worked- no CEL or DEF system alarms.

Anybody tried it?

A guy that worked for me dang near destroyed a Duramax trying this
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:31 PM   #11
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If I knew someone who would delete my truck in the weatherford area -i'd be all over it!!
If you find someone let me know. I am looking also and will let you know.
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Old 05-26-2022, 06:32 PM   #12
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Enough people start talking about a shortage and enough people will start hoarding it. Wallah! Shortage. I remember when you couldnít by freaking toilet paper, no shortage, just hoarding.

Hoarders will get bit on this one, there is a shelf life for DEF
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Old 05-26-2022, 07:28 PM   #13
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Do semis use DEF? Sorry I’m ignorant to what sorts of regs there are on tractor/trailer Diesel engines. But if they do, and there’s no DEF, then there will be a shortage of everything
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Old 05-26-2022, 07:30 PM   #14
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Story I heard the other day said India was cutting way down on exporting DEF.
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Old 05-26-2022, 07:31 PM   #15
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Do semis use DEF? Sorry I’m ignorant to what sorts of regs there are on tractor/trailer Diesel engines. But if they do, and there’s no DEF, then there will be a shortage of everything
Yes they do. Any newer diesel. I think 2012 was the last year model to go without DEF.
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Do semis use DEF? Sorry Iím ignorant to what sorts of regs there are on tractor/trailer Diesel engines. But if they do, and thereís no DEF, then there will be a shortage of everything
All out fire trucks use it
These liberals might have to wait until we get our horses and buggies hooked up before we can come help
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:03 PM   #17
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Here’s a video that explains the upcoming shortage, and this video was put out just a few hours ago.

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Old 05-26-2022, 08:06 PM   #18
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Hoarders will get bit on this one, there is a shelf life for DEF
This! I have a good friend in the business and he always told me make sure you buy your DEF from a place that has a high turnover rate. And don't buy more than you need. That aged stuff crystalizes and will screw up your system.
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:40 PM   #19
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Guberment thinking:

Fossil fuel is bad… use this and you will burn 1/3 to 1/2 more… but it’s not in black smoke form so it saves the planet forever

We spend extra to have clear pollution and China is burning tires to make your nikes… BUT luckily that pollution in the air stays over there
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:47 PM   #20
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This! I have a good friend in the business and he always told me make sure you buy your DEF from a place that has a high turnover rate. And don't buy more than you need. That aged stuff crystalizes and will screw up your system.
All the DEF Ive used, the spillage and remenants in the corrugated tube, has turned to crystals within several minutes of hitting air. Imagine what happens in the DEF tank and fill tube as its being transferred and exposed to air…with a fresh batch…crystallization. Im going to check my stashed jugs, only two, for expiration dates. The jugs Ive been sitting on for a couple months are still liquid, still clear and not crystallized. Ill continue to use one jug at a time with several in reserve.

Anyone remember the gas shortage on a Thursday last year.

I believe leftist Marxist revolutionists are infecting this inflammatory information… into conservative public… same as Thursday, last year.

Light the match and watch them burn themselves….said some Marxist.

Dont be sheeple.

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Old 05-26-2022, 08:47 PM   #21
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https://youtu.be/P7EFCIOwexg

Pilot CEO speaking on the subject
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:49 PM   #22
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A guy that worked for me dang near destroyed a Duramax trying this
LMAO!!!!!
Somebody please take that boys keys away from him.. He has no business driving..
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Old 05-26-2022, 08:54 PM   #23
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Another way to drive up inflation! Good times ahead of us!
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Old 05-26-2022, 09:47 PM   #24
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Old 05-26-2022, 10:23 PM   #25
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No surprise, since DEF is made from urea, and guess where much of the world's urea supply comes from. Same issue with fertilizer. FJB will blame it on Russia.
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Old 05-27-2022, 08:55 AM   #26
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So where does Union Pacific fit into this equation and why would they be limiting Flying J on its shipments of DEF?

https://youtu.be/P7EFCIOwexg
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Old 05-27-2022, 09:16 AM   #27
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So where does Union Pacific fit into this equation and why would they be limiting Flying J on its shipments of DEF?

https://youtu.be/P7EFCIOwexg

DEF gets transported primarily by railroads, and Union Pacific is having a lot of labor problems due to some poor choices of their leadership. So they are trying to decrease what they are transporting. Unfortunately, Flying J sells a very large amount of DEF and diesel in this country so cutting back on what they sell is only going to hurt our supply chain even more.
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Old 05-27-2022, 12:42 PM   #28
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If Id had my tin foil hat on I would say it looks like they are attacking the combustible engine from all fronts....as we go through this "Transition Phase" here in the U.S. per Bidens comments earlier this week.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:09 PM   #29
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If Id had my tin foil hat on I would say it looks like they are attacking the combustible engine from all fronts....as we go through this "Transition Phase" here in the U.S. per Bidens comments earlier this week.
and when it sinks in, will even be able to sell your internal combustion engine vehicle????
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:18 PM   #30
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That is not the case here.
I dont think it was the case with toilet paper a couple years ago but it happened.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:38 PM   #31
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and when it sinks in, will you even be able to sell your internal combustion engine vehicle????
They will just start taxing, penalizing and demonizing the remaining gas vehicle owners until they give them up.
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:42 PM   #32
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If I knew someone who would delete my truck in the weatherford area -i'd be all over it!!
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You have FB? Plenty of people out here that do it. (I had my last two done in dallas since it was close to the office).
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If you find someone let me know. I am looking also and will let you know.
If yall find anyone near SA or POC in your search please share. I think I'm ready to take the plunge, 113k miles so far out of warranty and want to be ready for the apocalypse and still be able to drive!
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Old 05-27-2022, 01:55 PM   #33
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They will just start taxing, penalizing and demonizing the remaining gas vehicle owners until they give them up.
kinda what I was getting at; 35k,50k,80k vehicles...worthless.
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Old 05-27-2022, 02:50 PM   #34
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Thanks for the heads-up. Walmart has the 2.5 gallons for $16 so I picked up 3 boxes to go with the 2 I had sitting in my garage. They can do what they want now I'm straight.

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Old 05-27-2022, 02:54 PM   #35
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We need to Delete the politicians and system that continues to destroy our country and are slowly getting us where we are totally dependent on others. Sad and requires urgent action in my opinion.
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Old 05-27-2022, 03:45 PM   #36
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Thanks for the heads-up. Walmart has the 2.5 gallons for $16 so I picked up 3 boxes to go with the 2 I had sitting in my garage. They can do what they want now I'm straight.

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I donít know if there is any truth to it, but I had read somewhere that if it is stored in a cool place then it lasts longer. But if it is stored in a hot place then it drastically decreases its shelf life. Donít know if thereís any truth to it. Maybe someone who knows for sure can chime in.
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Is there a shelf life on this stuff?
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Old 05-27-2022, 05:29 PM   #38
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Is there a shelf life on this stuff?
What I've read is 2 years if it is stored away from sunlight and ideally not in a hot location (below 80 degrees). Also have to keep it from freezing, but that means above 12 degrees, not an issue in TX generally.

http://blueskydefna.com/know-the-she...exhaust-fluid/

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