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Old 11-25-2020, 11:32 PM   #1
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Old 11-25-2020, 11:44 PM   #2
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Default Should Trump pardon Assange and Snowden?

Crazy how things 180, isnít it?

My answer is no.

I donít think the Russians have this countryís best interests in mind.
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Old 11-25-2020, 11:44 PM   #3
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Snowden doesn’t want a pardon, he wants a trial outside of the private court that handles espionage cases. I forget the name of this court, but he seems to be certain that he wouldn’t get a “fair” trial

Not familiar enough with Assange case to even know what he did
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Old 11-25-2020, 11:44 PM   #4
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I'd say after the turmoil dies.
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Old 11-26-2020, 12:03 AM   #5
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Yes on both. Turn the whole thing into a dumpster fire and pour even more gas on It. Declassify everything from the last 40 years.
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Old 11-26-2020, 11:01 AM   #6
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Absolutely. Setec Astronomy.........no more secrets
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Old 11-26-2020, 11:27 AM   #7
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I think Trump should declass everything he knows. Wouldn’t that tick off the swamp?
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Old 11-26-2020, 11:58 AM   #8
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Snowden is playing chess or one heck of a poker face. Seems to have both sides by the short hairs....

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Old 11-26-2020, 12:43 PM   #9
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Old 11-26-2020, 04:05 PM   #10
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100% should pardon them. Snowden is the reason we have proof of the government’s spying on ordinary civilians. We would have even more whistleblowers today if they weren’t illegally persecuted. The guy ruined his own life so that we would be more aware of our government’s violations to the Constitution.
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Old 11-26-2020, 08:58 PM   #11
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Assange. My understanding is the stuff he released killed American soldiers. Under that understanding, no he should not be pardoned. I would change my mind if it's proven the information he released did not injure or kill our troops.

Snowden? Yes, without a doubt.
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Old 11-26-2020, 09:55 PM   #12
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Assange Exposed alot of evil stuff (wikileaks/podesta emails)and kicked off PizzaGate and put eyes on our goverment like never before....true patriot so yes on him

Snowden Not so much, Disinformation is real...Snowden is likely a Blackhat unless he's flipped which ive read some stuff he has, but time will only tell
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Old 11-27-2020, 08:02 AM   #13
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Assange - No. From what I've read he released information that got good people killed. He's reckless.

Snowden - I'm torn on him. Comes off as a self-righteous moralistic prig. A narcissist. On the other hand what he released definitely started the ball rolling leading to conversations we as a free nation sorely need. Bottom line is that he did knowingly and purposely commit crimes under the espionage act. Thats very serious stuff. He could have gone about this without all the fanfare and dramatic self promotion. Consequently it has become all about him and not the content of what he released. Most Americans probably can't even give you the basic substance of the information and what it means. But they sure know all about Edward the person. Thats the problem with our society. We've become so preoccupied with personality that we have quit digging into the significance of what the real issue is and what it means.

And then theres Bradley Manning. He should have hanged.
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Old 11-27-2020, 08:08 AM   #14
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Assange - No. From what I've read he released information that got good people killed. He's reckless.

Snowden - I'm torn on him. Comes off as a self-righteous moralistic prig. A narcissist. On the other hand what he released definitely started the ball rolling leading to conversations we as a free nation sorely need. Bottom line is that he did knowingly and purposely commit crimes under the espionage act. Thats very serious stuff. He could have gone about this without all the fanfare and dramatic self promotion. Consequently it has become all about him and not the content of what he released. Most Americans probably can't even give you the basic substance of the information and what it means. But they sure know all about Edward the person. Thats the problem with our society. We've become so preoccupied with personality that we have quit digging into the significance of what the real issue is and what it means.

And then theres Bradley Manning. He should have hanged.

Everything you just posted is incorrect


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Old 11-27-2020, 08:23 AM   #15
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Everything you just posted is incorrect


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Old 11-27-2020, 11:25 AM   #16
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I am about 51% yes at this moment.
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Old 11-27-2020, 11:28 AM   #17
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How so?

Assange help expose evil people

He didnít do anything wrong or get anyone killed besides risking his own and families life by doing what he did ó-innocent Pardon

Snowden is a black hat, heís the engineer behind how the deep state sets up their comms via whatever way possible ótreason

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Since it is even being brought up for consideration that either of these two be pardoned it looks like Obama was a man before his time in commuting the sentence of Manning.

Without Manning, there'd be no Assange or Snowden

But then...
“Mr. Snowden fled into the arms of an adversary, and has sought refuge in a country that most recently made a concerted effort to undermine confidence in our democracy.”
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Shat just got real!

https://twitter.com/pastormarkburns/...683686915?s=20
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Old 12-14-2020, 11:41 AM   #20
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Coincidence that FBI acknowledge they've had Seth Richs computer since his untimely murder, It's also important to note, it is alleged Seth Rich is the one that leaked info to Asange.

Hmmm.
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Old 12-14-2020, 12:04 PM   #21
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Hope he did so in exchange for "the goods."
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Old 12-14-2020, 12:06 PM   #22
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Coincidence that FBI acknowledge they've had Seth Richs computer since his untimely murder, It's also important to note, it is alleged Seth Rich is the one that leaked info to Asange.

Hmmm.
Wonder how Hillary is doing this morning?
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Anybody reporting this besides this random twitter account? I hope it's true but can't find anything at all, even on Duckduckgo.
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Over on the Q thread, it's being reported as "fake news"... source supposedly said his source for the announcement was wrong... Who the heck knows...
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Over on the Q thread, it's being reported as "fake news"... source supposedly said his source for the announcement was wrong... Who the heck knows...
I was skeptical when I could only find that one source on twitter.
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Over on the Q thread, it's being reported as "fake news"... source supposedly said his source for the announcement was wrong... Who the heck knows...
Ya, I'm seeing that on Twit now.


Just wondering if it was thrown out there for optics!
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Ya, I'm seeing that on Twit now.


Just wondering if it was thrown out there for optics!
Thrown out to see who flinches
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:10 PM   #28
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Yes on both. Turn the whole thing into a dumpster fire and pour even more gas on It. Declassify everything from the last 40 years.
Sounds good to me

The swamp can overthrow a president so hell yes declassify every freakin thing out there
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Assange - No. From what I've read he released information that got good people killed. He's reckless.

Snowden - I'm torn on him. Comes off as a self-righteous moralistic prig. A narcissist. On the other hand what he released definitely started the ball rolling leading to conversations we as a free nation sorely need. Bottom line is that he did knowingly and purposely commit crimes under the espionage act. Thats very serious stuff. He could have gone about this without all the fanfare and dramatic self promotion. Consequently it has become all about him and not the content of what he released. Most Americans probably can't even give you the basic substance of the information and what it means. But they sure know all about Edward the person. Thats the problem with our society. We've become so preoccupied with personality that we have quit digging into the significance of what the real issue is and what it means.

And then theres Bradley Manning. He should have hanged.
If Hillary and Obama donít have consequences for everything you wrote neither should anyone else.
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