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Old 05-14-2021, 02:37 AM   #1
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My grandfather passed March 18 and his estate has turned into a mess. He was pretty well off, owned a small farm, has 2 children from his first marriage, and got remarried 20yr ago after my grandmother passed from cancer.

My mother is co-executor of the will along with his “new” wife. She has been moved into a home and is under hospice care. He had a prenup for all his personal property. Will is slated to be probated 5/26.

Here is the rub. My mom is a very laid back sweet lady that assumed that this process would be smooth and easy going. Here in the last week it has gone extremely south. The “new” wife’s kids have been coming over every day pulling stuff out of the house. This isn’t a big deal per se but now they are coming for stuff they claim is community property (that isn’t) and things that are (which my Mom and uncle) are entitled to a 1/2 interest in.

I purchased the farm and home from my grandad (understanding the fact that the new wife has a life estate interest and can remain there until she dies or it is no longer her primary residence). I was also awarded all “farm equipment” “including, but not limited to tractor and all implements, mowers, shredders, augers, blades and forks”.

I told my mother a couple weeks ago that nothing should be removed from the property until the will is probated but, like I said above, she just isn’t a very firm person. The “new” wife’s kids informed her tonight they are coming tomorrow for the farm SXS (which was bought a year after they were married) and log splitter which was bought 10yrs before they were married. I don’t want the buggy and had assumed it was going to my uncle anyway. The log splitter is totally different story. I made my spending money in Jr High using it every day. They informed my mom tonight if it isn’t there tomorrow evening they will sue her…..just out of the blue. She is an emotional mess now.

I’m planning on getting up early in the morning and taking the log splitter and buggy to my shop and when they come for them , telling them I’ll bring them back upon the will being probated. The other option is to take them way out on the back of the farm and chaining them to a tree that way they don’t actually leave the property?

If they give up claim to the log splitter they are welcome to the SXS as far as I’m concerned (even though I think a reasonable person would deduce the SXS is farm equipment).

Question: Can they press charges against me for theft and have me arrested? I don’t have a problem spending a few thousand dollars fighting them legally over the splitter just for principle. I’d rather not go to jail over it and the SXS of though.

What would you internet lawyers do? I can’t stand to see these folks walking all over my Mom. She is calling the lawyer you wrote the will and prenup in the morning but I don’t know if she will be able to get any answers by tomorrow evening.


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Old 05-14-2021, 03:17 AM   #2
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I cannot answer your question but man that sounds like a nightmare.. Good luck dealt with these people. They sound like thieving, scum suckers to me.. Get the law involved. It sounds like they are the ones stealing. I hope it works out for you..
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Old 05-14-2021, 03:26 AM   #3
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss. In these times we see the best and worst in people. If you are the property owner. I do not see why you can not lock the gate and give the zero access.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:04 AM   #4
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This is what I can tell you from my neighbors experience. The new wife's kids have ZERO interest in the estate unless specified in the will. You need to get a lawyer involved asap.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:07 AM   #5
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I would be at the office of the judge doing the probate and he should “seize” hold all property until probated
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:31 AM   #6
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Situations like this bring out the worst in people. Its crazy to me the way people act and want when someone passes away, and its usually immediate family fighting over the material things. Good luck getting all of this sorted out, and like stated earlier, get a lawyer involved asap
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:16 AM   #7
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No probate yet? It’s all a civil matter until then. I would tell them to take the sxs if you think it will calm them down. Or take it and wait till the 26th
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:17 AM   #8
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Change the locks immediately and lock the gate until probate
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:27 AM   #9
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I see how this is going south for you and your mom. But I look at it like this. Technically, upon his death, all his property became property of his new wife. However.... Since you bought the farm from your granddad and all equipment on the property, if you have the deed, the farm is legally yours. Lock your stuff up, restrict them from the property, it is YOURS. If you have that deed and anything else with it, you can meet the police out there with those "kids" and have the police tell them what is up and you can have them escorted off the property and let them know that if they return as of this notice, you will have them arrested for trespassing.
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:39 AM   #10
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What a bunch of slimy azzed low life people to do that to your mom. That place would be closed up tighter than bulls butt during the fly time. And I’d might even stay out there myself.
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:42 AM   #11
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Seems to me ^^^^^^^^^^ the statement above fits in somewhere. you bought the farm and equipment so how the hell does anyone think they can come and go on your property with out your permission?
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:11 AM   #12
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sorry to see how good people pass and the rats move in. I saw this when my step dad died, sister husband came for everything he could carry. True hearts show when this happens.
Sounds like you have a legal standing and good advice above, first action is lock entry to the premises and go see the judge, or lawyer. After that hopefully the stress turns comical when their sorted plan fails
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:13 AM   #13
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Maybe call the Sheriffs office and explain the situation. I would probably take the log splitter and maybe the SXS off site. It is technically yours anyway since you bought the equipment with the farm.

If you put a lock on it...Who is to say they don't just cut the lock?
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:17 AM   #14
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Sorry to hear about all this. Yes, it can get messy and ugly. I've, been through some of that myself. Take pictures and document everything.
IMO It you take it from the property you are doing what you don't want them to do. Hide it andock it up on property would be my suggestion.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:25 AM   #15
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Call and report the stuff stolen an option?

If you have claim to it and they take it that is stealing to me

The kids have zero claim I would think.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:29 AM   #16
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Change the locks, hang a couple tactacams around the place so you know when they are there. Call the police and tell them someone is trespassing on your property and you got them on camera. If you own it, and pay taxes on it, there is nothing they can do.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:33 AM   #17
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I’d go down with bloody knuckles.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:36 AM   #18
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I’d go down with bloody knuckles.
Amen. Same
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:37 AM   #19
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Change the locks, hang a couple tactacams around the place so you know when they are there. Call the police and tell them someone is trespassing on your property and you got them on camera. If you own it, and pay taxes on it, there is nothing they can do.
100% this is what should be in place soon
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:40 AM   #20
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This could get uglier than what most would ever imagine i would get the law involved ASAP you want them on your side as early as possible
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:44 AM   #21
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I can't stand greedy dirty mfrs, best of luck to you.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:46 AM   #22
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Being that you own the farm and land I’d tell them they’re not welcome and do not step a single foot on it! If so you’ll have them arrested for trespassing, as they’ve already been told they’re not welcome.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:50 AM   #23
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Take it and hide it. Until after probate.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:00 AM   #24
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Dealing with “family” kn a situation like this is the worst...

Praying for ya...

I have an uncle that I haven't spoken too in decades over stunts pulled in situations similar.

Some folks are just down right low.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:11 AM   #25
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I purchased the farm and home from my grandad (understanding the fact that the new wife has a life estate interest and can remain there until she dies or it is no longer her primary residence). I was also awarded all “farm equipment” “including, but not limited to tractor and all implements, mowers, shredders, augers, blades and forks”.

I would think that since you "OWN" the farm you have control over who has access to your property. Lock the gate and dont let them on your property. Sorry this has turned in to what it has, but I wouldnt allow them to touch foot on the property, much less remove anything from the property. At least until the will is probated. Good luck amigo.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:14 AM   #26
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Change the locks immediately and lock the gate until probate
This ^, plus you might think about staying out there since apparently you own it already. Gonna be harder to get it back later. I like greedy weasels less and less as I get older.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:17 AM   #27
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Your place, lock it down and inform the law of such. Install a few security camera's in key area's.

Tell them nothing is there's for the taking until after probate and passing the locked gate will result in trespassing charges. Have a lawyer send this via certified mail.

There's no reason to be nice to them after threatening your mom. Throw every book you have at them.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:18 AM   #28
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I'd go get it and take it to someone else's house and say it vanished. What the hells a lawyer gonna do if they can't prove otherwise? Shouldn't have said nothin and went and got it.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:33 AM   #29
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I'd go get it and take it to someone else's house and say it vanished. What the hells a lawyer gonna do if they can't prove otherwise? Shouldn't have said nothin and went and got it.
Yup stuff comes up “stolen” all the time.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:35 AM   #30
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Get a lawyer they are the only one that benefits.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:40 AM   #31
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Can you request a restraining order or freeze on all property until probated? I don't know if you can but it is a thought. The problem is what is personal property verses assets. Typically, which may not be the case for you, personal property is not covered or itemized which makes it much more difficult to fairly distribute.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:44 AM   #32
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That sucks and I don't have any good advice, but the same thing is currently going on with my great aunt. She is currently in hospice care and her kids and step kids seem to be more interested in fighting over everything on her property than being with her on her last days. I just don't understand people.
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:45 AM   #33
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Good LUCK!!!!!!! Only one i saw was Dead man wish was sell EVERYTHING at AUCTION..and split money with Children (all ADULT) No Squabble
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:46 AM   #34
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"Missing" or "stolen" property all sounds like a Civil matter till probate is done.

If I was the guy answering the call for service I'd recommend everything stay where it's at and tell you lock it all down for the sake of everyone

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Can you request a restraining order or freeze on all property until probated? I don't know if you can but it is a thought. The problem is what is personal property verses assets. Typically, which may not be the case for you, personal property is not covered or itemized which makes it much more difficult to fairly distribute.
These things ^

Notify sherriff, and put cams out and be done with it until probate. Thieves gonna be thieves and no it's not worth a physical altercation.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:10 AM   #36
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Sorry for your loss bud. Grandpas are special.

Man, I’m tagging this one for the train wreck. You sound like you’re handling it well...my heart goes out too your mom, she shouldn’t have to be dealing with these JA’s. They are “entitled” to what’s in the will and I’d make sure they didn’t get a penny more. Ain’t nothing worse than folks getting greedy while others are mourning a death




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Old 05-14-2021, 08:13 AM   #37
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Sorry...those items were sold and title passed to the new owner.

If you think you are entitled to half, or any part of the proceeds, the probate judge is who you will need to speak with.

Trespassing will result in whatever happens to trespassers.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:18 AM   #38
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:19 AM   #39
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That sucks man! Just proves... more money, more problems.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:20 AM   #40
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Youre handling it better than I would. Just reading this makes me want to curb stomp them.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:21 AM   #41
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Speaking frankly, before you do anything I would contact a lawyer. Probate can be a messy process, and you need someone experienced in probate and probate litigation to guide you and protect your interests. There are too many hypotheticals and potential issues for you to get sound advice from the internet.


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Old 05-14-2021, 08:22 AM   #42
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[QUOTE=texan16;15616740]I purchased the farm and home from my grandad (understanding the fact that the new wife has a life estate interest and can remain there until she dies or it is no longer her primary residence). I was also awarded all “farm equipment” “including, but not limited to tractor and all implements, mowers, shredders, augers, blades and forks”.


I believe you mentioned the new wife has been moved to Hospice care in a different home. If so, this should qualify as vacation of primary residence. At the very least, it will get a judge to shut everything down until the will is probated so legally you're good.

I'd still take the things I wanted to make sure didn't walk off and put them somewhere else. Especially something like a log splitter that can be turned to cash pretty easily.
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Dude, lock that **** up and tell them to get bent. Nothing should be distributed until the judge signs an order. They are not entitled to anything until then. If you purchased all "farm equipment" you have an excellent argument that a SxS and a log splitter are farm equipment. You can't steal what you already own, and even if it is determined later that they are entitled to it they can't just come and grab it before probate. That is the whole purpose of having a judge adjudicate the probate proceedings. Is that language in a bill of sale or other document?

Side note to anyone that doesn't have a will and needs to get it done, "co-executors" is almost always a bad idea. One executor to make the decisions and distributions and a successor executor or two in case the first one can't or won't administer the estate.

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Old 05-14-2021, 08:55 AM   #44
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I think you are safe, but I would ask your lawyer. These deals always turn into a mess, I know we have one coming at some point, I know will turn into a huge battle.


Don't let them take anything, until the probate, make that very clear to all of them.



My best friend died last June, he had no will. His son who is only 24, got a lawyer, because his father had a C6 ZO6 Corvette, a 1990 Mustang GT, that had a lot of work done to it, then a very stout built 427 small block Ford for the GT and a big blower. Then about five cheap cars he kept in the driveway at the house.

My buddy's son's lawyer told him that the children get 60%, then the wife gets 40%, by Texas state law, if there is no will. So here is the bad part, my buddy died of cancer, then he lived with a leach, she had been his girl friend, but things kept getting worse and he was trying to get out of the relationship before he found out he had cancer. But in his condition, about three days before he died in the hospital, she set up a wedding in the hospital. He was in very bad condition, but went through with the wedding. So the leach turned into his wife. That screwed his son over so badly, my buddy was very intelligent, but in his condition, he obviously was not able to think very well at all. There is no way he would have gone for this deal, had he been his normal self, but he went through with the deal.

So after he died, and his son got a lawyer, the leach got a sleazy lawyer, actually first, she probably had the lawyer before he died. His son and the leach, agreed to her getting the cheap cars and Bronco in the driveway. Then the furniture in the house, which they had some nice furniture. Then the son, would get the C6 Vette, Mustang, parts for the Mustang and a few family heirlooms. They agreed to that and ever thing seemed good. So his son grabbed the few things out of the house and left. He already had the Vette and the Mustang was being stored elsewhere.

So the witch/leach, decided she did not get all she should, so she had her lawyer come up with some BS, claiming she had rights to the Vette, so she showed up and took the Vette. Her and her lawyer must have gotten creative on their calculations of 40%. Then after that, they decided she was also entitled to the Mustang and all of it's pieces. My buddy's son was given notice to turn over the Mustang and the parts for the car. He did not, he kept it in storage, he had his lawyer fight the leach witch. This has now been going on for many months, it is still currently going on. The leach witch and her lawyer, seem to have the idea, if they just keep at it long enough, the son will give in and hand over the car and the parts. As of this point, she has gotten at least 90% of my buddy's possessions and she is going for 99.9% of his possessions. How her and her lawyer calculated 40% I don't have a clue. Naturally, this BS is playing out in Houston, where anything goes. They make up the rules as they go.

Just a warning, expect anything, don't let them walk off with anything. Call the law and have them come out and explain to them they have to wait until the probate, to remove any items. Until then F off.

My buddy's son, has kept his father's Mustang and related parts in storage for many months now, long after he was given notice he better hand over the Mustang and related parts. He has not had any problems other than threats from the witch and her lawyer. But at the same time, his lawyer has not been able to make it clear to the witch and her lawyer, she has gotten well beyond her 40% and everyone knows the whole wedding that her 40% is based off of, was a sham. If I was his son, I would have fought the legality of the marriage. I would think for a marriage to be legal, both parties must be of sound mind.

I realize this situation is not all that similar to what you are dealing with. Things I want to point out, is there are state laws, that sleaze ball lawyers, just ignore and that my buddy's son, has held on to the last thing his father owned that was of any value. Even though he has received notice to turn it over, he has not been charge or arrested. The whole deal has really been hard on him, really has me POed, but I have no say so in the whole deal, I am just a spectator.
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They probably aren't very mechanically inclined and no farm smarts. If the tractor has a bucket put the log splitter in and raise to max vertical. If the tractor has forks for back put the sxs on them and again raise to max vertical. Take your tractor keys and setup some cameras to catch their anguished faces as they contemplate the impossible for them
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:13 AM   #46
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:13 AM   #47
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The wife and her 2 sisters are working on splitting up their parent's stuff. It has been a 3 ring circus.................
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:34 AM   #48
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Dude, lock that **** up and tell them to get bent. Nothing should be distributed until the judge signs an order. They are not entitled to anything until then. If you purchased all "farm equipment" you have an excellent argument that a SxS and a log splitter are farm equipment. You can't steal what you already own, and even if it is determined later that they are entitled to it they can't just come and grab it before probate. That is the whole purpose of having a judge adjudicate the probate proceedings. Is that language in a bill of sale or other document?

Side note to anyone that doesn't have a will and needs to get it done, "co-executors" is almost always a bad idea. One executor to make the decisions and distributions and a successor executor or two in case the first one can't or won't administer the estate.
This and make sure you have pics of the items of concern, especially the log splitter, that kind of stuff from childhood is priceless.
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:41 AM   #49
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I went through this in 96. Nothing may be removed from any property covered in the will unless the Executor says it can, until after Probate.

I'd make them bring back what they took without permission since in the eyes of the law they stole it.

Seriously my Mom and I went through this and we won.
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Old 05-14-2021, 09:54 AM   #50
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Dude, lock that **** up and tell them to get bent. Nothing should be distributed until the judge signs an order. They are not entitled to anything until then. If you purchased all "farm equipment" you have an excellent argument that a SxS and a log splitter are farm equipment. You can't steal what you already own, and even if it is determined later that they are entitled to it they can't just come and grab it before probate. That is the whole purpose of having a judge adjudicate the probate proceedings. Is that language in a bill of sale or other document?

Side note to anyone that doesn't have a will and needs to get it done, "co-executors" is almost always a bad idea. One executor to make the decisions and distributions and a successor executor or two in case the first one can't or won't administer the estate.

If you are the executor I can't stress how important allowing anyone else in the family into the mess of the estate is the BIGGEST mistake you can make.

What seems like a good idea at the time will end up being one of the worst decisions you will ever make in your life. Everyone that's saying they just want to help you out is only concerned about money. Nothing else. Not your welfare, the deceased money. And since your the executor you get more money than they do. This is a big deal to them. Right off the bat its not FAIR you get more.

When my mothers estate gets settled the first thing I will do is to take my brothers completely off my will and hire the executor job done so as not to let my daughters go through this someday.

My relationships with my brothers is non salvageable at this point.
I don't want this to happen to them.
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