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Old 11-30-2018, 09:35 PM   #51
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Spent case is still in the gun. The bolt snapped and the casing is still lodged forward.
I bet the brass case head is welded to remaining bolt face and likely welded to the chamber.

Im pretty firm in my belief that it was an ammo issue ... weak primer pocket ?

The action did itís job as the rifle exploded at its weakest point ... stock and bolt body
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Old 12-01-2018, 09:41 AM   #52
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I'm with Blake.

I'm also pretty confident our firearms examiner would say something like..

When fired under normal circumstances, it did not perform correctly

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Old 12-01-2018, 11:16 AM   #53
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Iím reading and learning. Hereís a link to folks who consult in firearm and tool marks- not exactly what you want but itís related firearms.

My suggestion is to find a couple firms in Texas, call and ask for the owner and ask if he can suggest who best to speak to about a rifle failure.

https://afte.org/resources/expert-referral







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Old 12-01-2018, 09:50 PM   #54
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Any pics of the spent case...I would think an obstruction would show evidence in the bbl itself. This stuff spooks me.
My understanding was it was still lodged in the barrel

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Looks like overpressure ammo, and/or case head separation. One way for it to happen is a bullet hanging in the rifling when the round is unloaded. Next round goes in and Kaboom. Usually a barrel obstruction in a centerfire splits the barrel.

My brother fired a .308 in his M700 .270. Didn't hurt the rifle at all. Had it inspected by a gunsmith, and x-rayed by a friend in the inspection biz.


Hope we get to find out what happened here. Glad he didn't get hurt.
How is this possible?
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Old 12-02-2018, 10:37 AM   #55
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My understanding was it was still lodged in the barrel



How is this possible?

Thats what I said when I read it

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Old 12-02-2018, 01:29 PM   #56
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My understanding was it was still lodged in the barrel



How is this possible?
My cousin put 1 of his 308. rounds through my 25-06 sendero. Gas blew out, loud as all get out, and put some powder in his eye. Had to have surgery to remove it.

Dad took the gun to his gunsmith, he said it was fine. Dad then sent it to Remington, and they said it was 100% good to go, as well. That was 20 yrs ago, and the gun still shoots sub moa, everyday, all day.
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Old 12-02-2018, 10:21 PM   #57
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My cousin put 1 of his 308. rounds through my 25-06 sendero. Gas blew out, loud as all get out, and put some powder in his eye. Had to have surgery to remove it.

Dad took the gun to his gunsmith, he said it was fine. Dad then sent it to Remington, and they said it was 100% good to go, as well. That was 20 yrs ago, and the gun still shoots sub moa, everyday, all day.
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Old 12-02-2018, 10:31 PM   #58
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A gun exploding scares me to death. I hop I never experience it.
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Old 12-03-2018, 08:26 AM   #59
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A gun exploding scares me to death. I hop I never experience it.
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Old 12-03-2018, 10:07 AM   #60
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My understanding was it was still lodged in the barrel



How is this possible?

I think it is because the M700 is one strong action. Like the 25-06 in the other post. That smaller bore you would really think would be an issue. I think bullets are softer than we think. I shoot a lot of cast in pistols, and a couple of thousandths over bore diameter is nothing, and is required. Of course, pistols don't work at near rifle pressures.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:22 PM   #61
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My understanding was it was still lodged in the barrel



How is this possible?
.270 Win chamber is larger than the.308 Win chamber but is has the same bolt face and case diameter. The bolt grabbed the round and allowed the firing pin to strike the primer. The round went off and the bullet was forced down the barrel. .308 is not that much larger than .270 so it would shave the copper off the outside of the projectile but not stop it from going down the barrel. Probably had a lot of copper shavings in the chamber.

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Old 12-03-2018, 02:39 PM   #62
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This needs to get back to the rifle and ammo manufacturer.
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:00 PM   #63
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tag for results of analysis!
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:33 PM   #64
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Looks to me like something of this sort might happen if there was already a round chambered and then another round was attempted to be chambered. The pointy thing on the end of the round might ding the primer of the chambered round and Ka-Boom. I think they may refer to this as operator error.
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Old 12-03-2018, 03:59 PM   #65
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Biodynamic research San Antonio it won't be cheap to have them diagnose it they do research on equipment and stuff like that for lawsuits they that is the company the lawyers used for the Dale Earnhardt Sr death
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Old 12-03-2018, 05:39 PM   #66
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I can not imagine pulling the trigger and this happening on a high power rifle! Glad he is OK
Hopefully he can look at the fired case and see if it is the right cal. If he can get it out of the gun!

I think I would talk to a gunsmith and/or lawyer on this. I would want to know what happen for my piece of mind and to be sure it never happens again. If it is ammo related I would want them to replace gun at least.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:27 PM   #67
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63,000 psi is a lot. Now imagine if it was over powdered, or improperly head spaced.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:15 PM   #68
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Going to say it’s reloaded ammo that someone thought was factory. My a-bolt has had a lot of hot 7mag rounds and no issues.

Pistol powder or a double charge.

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Old 12-04-2018, 01:32 PM   #69
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had to look at pic again!
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:56 PM   #70
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:50 AM   #71
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A guy on my lease was telling me when he went to shoot his rifles before season this year one of his barrels was plugged with a dirt dauber nest. He was glad he looked down his barrel before hand.

Also seen this picture on Facebook yesterday.

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Old 12-06-2018, 12:26 PM   #72
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Holy crap! Glad he was ok! I think a trip to the bathroom would have been in order.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:31 PM   #73
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Holy crap! Glad he was ok! I think a trip to the bathroom would have been in order.
Not me. My bowels would've evacuated then and there. More likely would be some scissors and a trip to the burn barrel

Keep checking in to see if a cause has been determined.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:47 PM   #74
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I've seen It happen several times. Lots of different ways it can happen. I always check my barrel for carrots.
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I wonder if Elmer was from Arkansas ?
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