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Old 10-11-2018, 12:32 PM   #1
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First of all, pull up a map and get a visual for what I'm asking.


Where does the Panhandle start and end on the south side?

Is it a straight line across where the eastern border turns east following the Red River or a straight line across where the western border turns west towards New Mexico? This is a big difference in area. If its the eastern side that dictates it, then Lubbock and Plainview are not in the panhandle. If it's the western side that dictates it then Midland and Big Springare in the panhandle.

Is is somewhere in between?

I've certainly never thought of Midland being in the Panhandle and doubt if anyone else does either, but if Lubbock is in then where is the line of delineation? When I think of the Panhandle I think of Amarillo, Canyon, Hereford, Pampa, Dumas, etc. I've never considered Lubbock to be the panhandle, but I recently saw a members post that considered it to be. It got me to thinking....where is the line?

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Old 10-11-2018, 12:35 PM   #2
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Not sure, but I would bet most in Lubbock think we are in the Panhandle. Some think we are in West Texas also.
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:38 PM   #3
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My idea is draw a straight line from the corner of the eastern turn to the corner of the western turn.

I live in south Texas so anything north of Lubbock is panhandle.
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Not sure, but I would bet most in Lubbock think we are in the Panhandle. Some think we are in West Texas also.
HAHAHAHAHA. Your post in another thread is the one that got me thinking. I've always considered Lubbock West Texas just never really thought of it as the panhandle.
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Found this:



Probably could have just searched it without a TBH thread.
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:43 PM   #6
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I don't think that map above represents what most Texans consider the Panhandle. Hell, according to that map Weatherford, Mineral Wells, etc would be panhandle...even Abilene. Nope.
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:46 PM   #7
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Probably could have just searched it without a TBH thread.
People do that?
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:48 PM   #8
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Technically I think the a panhandle is just the “straight edges” therefore where the red river becomes the border and the state line jogs east would be the end of the panhandle. But like Doug said I think most up here consider Lubbock part of the panhandle. Our fair is called the Panhandle South Plains fair.

I just call it “The highground of Texas!”
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:50 PM   #9
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Panhandle or high plains -Draw a line from muleshoe to Childress. South of that line is West Texas
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:51 PM   #10
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PANHANDLE. The 25,610-square-mile Panhandle of Texas was shaped by the Compromise of 1850, which resolved the state's controverted territorial claims. It is bounded on the east by the 100th meridian, on the north by parallel 36°30', and on the west by the 103rd meridian. It comprises the northernmost twenty-six counties of the state; the line forming the southern boundary of Swisher County in the central Panhandle marks the southern boundary.

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Old 10-11-2018, 12:53 PM   #11
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:55 PM   #12
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Grew up in Lubbock - Lubbock and all areas north of the county are considered the panhandle. All these people coming in from out of the state are getting things confused.

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Old 10-11-2018, 12:56 PM   #13
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So according to those maps there is no “West. Texas”....
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:00 PM   #14
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:19 PM   #15
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Grew up in Lubbock - Lubbock and all areas north of the county are considered the panhandle. All these people coming in from out of the state are getting things confused.

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Drew up north of Dumas. We consider Lubbock as west Texas
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:48 PM   #16
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Found this:



Probably could have just searched it without a TBH thread.
Lies!! All lies!! Lol
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:53 PM   #17
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I don't think that map above represents what most Texans consider the Panhandle. Hell, according to that map Weatherford, Mineral Wells, etc would be panhandle...even Abilene. Nope.
It also doesn't even denote a West Texas.....
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:55 PM   #18
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This one is most like what I have always considered to be the Panhandle area. Close to it anyways.
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:56 PM   #19
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The panhandle is just that, if you grabbed Texas like a pan the part you wrap your fingers around is the "pan handle".
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Old 10-11-2018, 01:57 PM   #20
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The way the map shows, that would be almost following the caprock where panhandle starts. I still believe Lubbock is west Texas and north of Lubbock is panhandle.
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:16 PM   #21
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Found this:



Probably could have just searched it without a TBH thread.
Where's East Texas?
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:18 PM   #22
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:23 PM   #23
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Found this:



Probably could have just searched it without a TBH thread.
"Panhandle Plains" on that map includes the Panhandle (Childress - Farwell and north), the South Plains (area on top of the Llano Estacado south of the Panhandle to Lamesa general area), and the Rolling Plains (area east of those first two, below the Llano Estacado and roughly Abilene up to Red River). Looks like they lumped in a little bit of the northern Hill Country/Central Texas region too (Brownwood, Coleman, San Angelo).
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:23 PM   #24
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Drew up north of Dumas. We consider Lubbock as west Texas
I guess maybe you know Fred Pronger?
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:36 PM   #25
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So according to those maps there is no “West. Texas”....
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It also doesn't even denote a West Texas.....


Or North Texas, or East Texas, or Central Texas. What's your point?
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:42 PM   #26
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where's east texas?
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:38 PM   #28
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I've known more than a few people in east Texas refer to anything on the other side of I35 as west Texas.
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:45 PM   #29
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I live in Weatherford Tx and I live in the panhandle. NOT. Anything north of Lubbock east and west to the statelines in my opinion.

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Old 10-11-2018, 03:48 PM   #30
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Or North Texas, or East Texas, or Central Texas. What's your point?
I think the bigger debate is what’s considered West Texas.

East TX is easy to identify, pine trees and the number of poaching convictions equals the number of convictions for cooking meth in trailer house bathtubs...
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:56 PM   #31
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Panhandle is above the blue. +\-






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Old 10-11-2018, 03:58 PM   #32
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I think the bigger debate is what’s considered West Texas.

East TX is easy to identify, pine trees and the number of poaching convictions equals the number of convictions for cooking meth in trailer house bathtubs...



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Old 10-11-2018, 04:01 PM   #33
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:02 PM   #34
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This map is about as close as I can find to how I personally break them up. Lubbock is right on the edge to me but I always consider it the panhandle as it has more in common with the panhandle geographically than it does with West Texas.

I would carve out a piece of it where the west north central panhandle all meet and call it the big country. Basically Abilene area.

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Old 10-11-2018, 04:08 PM   #35
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Maybe this is too simplistic but I have always considered everything above the line to be the panhandle. Just below the line is the something else - the "high plains" maybe?....

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Old 10-11-2018, 04:34 PM   #36
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I'm not sure, but it seems that since 1845 someone has been mis-handling the panhandle and losing a bit as time goes along.
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:40 PM   #37
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I was about to describe that same line. To me, that is the panhandle of Texas.
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Old 10-11-2018, 04:44 PM   #38
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all of the Tech people I know call Lubbock the South Plains or West Texas. I don't think any of them consider that part of the panhandle. i'd say the line is Childress to Muleshoe.
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:33 PM   #39
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Yes, Lubbock is in the panhandle. The big question is what is considered West Texas. I have seen people here on TBH call mason and menard West Texas and they are wrong.


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Old 10-11-2018, 05:46 PM   #40
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Or North Texas, or East Texas, or Central Texas. What's your point?
Point is exactly as stated. LMAO
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Old 10-12-2018, 09:42 AM   #41
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I'm not sure, but it seems that since 1845 someone has been mis-handling the panhandle and losing a bit as time goes along.
Lol, nice. Since 1845 somebody's been mis-handling Texas altogether. Forget MAGA.... let's make Texas a country again.

I've spent most of the last 20 years in Abilene, and now I live in Lubbock. Abilene is not panhandle. Lubbock kind of is. If you want to get precise, Shane's on track. Abilene is big country. Lubbock is south plains. North of Lubbock is panhandle. West of Abilene is West Texas.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:20 AM   #42
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I don't live in West Texas, I live on the south plains. Where the caprock drops off south of Lorenzo, Ralls and Crosbyton draw a line to the N.M. border. Anything to the North is what I think most of the old timers consider the panhandle. The Southeastern boundary is the difficult one to identify. Its hard for me to consider Guthrie as part of the panhandle simply due to the fact it's not on top of the cap but then I think of Matador and Turkey and consider them both to be in the panhandle. The map with the diagonal line connecting both parallel boundaries sums it up the best in my opinion, but that's just my opinion. Abeline is in West Texas and so is Midland and Odessa but then where does that leave Lamesa or Seminole, West Texas or the panhandle?
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but then where does that leave Lamesa
Everybody knows Lamesa sits squarely in the Armpit.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:40 AM   #44
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Everybody knows Lamesa sits squarely in the Armpit.
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Old 10-12-2018, 10:44 AM   #45
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i think the bigger debate is what’s considered west texas.

East tx is easy to identify, pine trees and the number of poaching convictions equals the number of convictions for cooking meth in trailer house bathtubs...
lmao!!
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Old 10-13-2018, 01:29 AM   #46
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I always thought Lubbock was the taint of texas. It taint the panhandle and it taint west texas!
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:40 AM   #47
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I think jerp has it right. Those 26 counties are what the weather forecasters consider the Panhandle. They consider the other counties in question either Rolling Plains or South Plains.
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Old 10-13-2018, 09:41 AM   #48
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Maybe this is too simplistic but I have always considered everything above the line to be the panhandle. Just below the line is the something else - the "high plains" maybe?....

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South and West of the South Plains is the Permian Basin.
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I always thought Lubbock was the taint of texas. It taint the panhandle and it taint west texas!
Lol. I can't be offended by that one cause that's pretty funny, another touché for you sir.
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Maybe this is too simplistic but I have always considered everything above the line to be the panhandle. Just below the line is the something else - the "high plains" maybe?....

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This. Lubbock is in the Llano Estacado (sp?), the Staked Plains, High Plains. Separate from West Texas.
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