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Old 09-15-2020, 05:56 PM   #51
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Weíve had similar issues. Started making square or rectangle pens with two deadman braces on each corner (each direction of the panels) that allow proper barbed wire stretching at 5-10 inches above a reg hog panel. This design has been good for us.

Hard to do a top strand with round pens.


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I do same and I still have problems. But only on my square pens. No cows in my round pens and no barbed wire on my round pens


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Old 09-15-2020, 06:03 PM   #52
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Welded cattle panel and make the pen as big as you can.
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Old 09-15-2020, 06:53 PM   #53
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Dang it.
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Old 09-15-2020, 07:14 PM   #54
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Just curious. I don’t know anything about cattle. How much money y’all talking about?
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Old 09-15-2020, 07:21 PM   #55
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I do same and I still have problems. But only on my square pens. No cows in my round pens and no barbed wire on my round pens


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Dang, you got them mad cows


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Old 09-15-2020, 07:43 PM   #56
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i had a heifer that figured out how to get into the pens once, she went to auction soon after. i didn't want her teaching the others how to get in. i had a hog push his way under a cattle panel last month and couldn't get out. he didn't last 2 days even with water. he sure tore up the place trying to get out, including a tail cam and 2 solar lights.
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Old 09-15-2020, 07:59 PM   #57
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Never seen that before
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:34 PM   #58
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What about doing a reverse circular trap idea but square that allows them to push their way out but not in. Not sure if the protein killed them more then eating all of it and nothing to drink and just dying of thirst.


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Old 09-15-2020, 08:52 PM   #59
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You need taller fence around that protein feeder. I guess once they ate a lot, they were not able to get back out. I have had problems with the neighbor's bulls getting on our side of the fence and not knowing where the water was. Walked the fence line for days, trying to get back home, where they knew where the water was. After two or three days, with no water, you can tell they are about to drop over dead. They foam at the mouth and stagger around, confused. Eventually I was able to get in contact with their owner and get him to help me get the bull back on the right side of the fence. We had to do that two or three times, before I finally found the hole the bull was getting through.

Cattle can't got very long without water, in the Texas heat, it will kill them dead. Then gorging themselves on protein feed, probably does not help either, more so with no water.
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:58 PM   #60
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Never seen that before.
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Old 09-15-2020, 08:59 PM   #61
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That it was an unfortunate event. We've discussed it several times. It can't happen again and we need to make sure we resolve the pen issue.
Youíre in Llano Cnty right? Pm the landowners name of you donít mind
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:04 PM   #62
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Just curious. I donít know anything about cattle. How much money yíall talking about?
Waygu beef probably 10k if itís been fed out
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:04 PM   #63
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Thatís crazy! I think Iíll be adding a stout top rail to my pen and or a stand or 2 of barb wire.
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:25 PM   #64
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My bossís make the hunters carry $5,000,000 In Accident insurance And a umbrella policy
Donít skimp on some cruddy group policy
ď fast pay makes fast friends when dealing with a loss to a owner ď


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Old 09-15-2020, 09:26 PM   #65
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That’s different, for sure.

If cows are on that terrible of range, it’d be hard to keep them out of anything if they could smell that grain.
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:35 PM   #66
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I think some cows just are problems... We had 8 years with cows and never once put up a pen (corn feeders) never had anything broken nothing...

Then a few years no cows, now we have cows again and these have broken every trail camera and 2 feeders

The only way I could see to fix this is full size cattle panels and a HUGE feed pen... Like 100 yards across maybe
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:41 PM   #67
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Never in a million years would i think that would happen. We have 36 inch panels... make the pens large enough so the protein is not close to the out side and with two strands on the top, the top being about 46-48 inches. But we still occasionally have a jumper than can clear it and it not bother them.

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Old 09-15-2020, 09:44 PM   #68
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My pen is about 2 plus times the size of what the one looks in the photo. Without barb wire its just to easy for them to push it over

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Old 09-16-2020, 09:48 AM   #69
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Waygu beef probably 10k if itís been fed out
10k per head or for all 5?

I always read how expensive a Waygu steak is.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:33 AM   #70
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As you can see from time stamp the photo is from bout 10 minutes ago. This is Rachel and I named her that from the voice mail about Rachel you big white nasty bi$&h took me off the MF in schedule.....anyways you know. So this pen is 64' x 64' with hog panels, dead men at each corner barb wire at 6" and 12".


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Old 09-16-2020, 11:39 AM   #71
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10k per head or for all 5?

I always read how expensive a Waygu steak is.
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:52 PM   #72
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As you can see from time stamp the photo is from bout 10 minutes ago. This is Rachel and I named her that from the voice mail about Rachel you big white nasty bi$&h took me off the MF in schedule.....anyways you know. So this pen is 64' x 64' with hog panels, dead men at each corner barb wire at 6" and 12".


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We had them pushing over our hog panels on 4 of the 5 pens we had. All our pens are round. Once they got the taste we couldnít keep them out. We added the barb wire the second year and we see some bends in the panels but havenít had a cow in there since.

Wonder what the difference is to them between round and square pens. Youíve got big pens too. Always wanted to try the cottonseed too but havenít yet.

We do have a few Boone and Crockett coons though.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:23 PM   #73
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Ranch Mgr makes us build our panels 48”.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:35 PM   #74
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Sounds like the ranch isn’t supplementing his heard
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Old 09-17-2020, 12:07 AM   #75
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Can an experienced cattleman weigh in on this? In my limited experience, cows with good grazing/food opportunities arenít a problem for corn or protein feeders. We had to fence them out, but loose barb wire would work. There was always grass and the land owner took good care of the cattle and the land
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Old 09-17-2020, 01:14 AM   #76
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Very simple fix. Had the same problem for years with certain cows so finally decided to stop it for good. Protein cost to much to gamble with cattle. Keep the hog panels in place and build a standard 3 barbwire perimeter fence about 10 ft off set from your feeder pen. Start your first bottom wire 26 ins off the ground giving easy access to deer to go under and then jump in the feeder pen. Never have to worry about cows again, protects your investment, and will up your shed finding in the future we have never had a issue since in the last 10yrs
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Old 09-17-2020, 06:03 AM   #77
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Can an experienced cattleman weigh in on this? In my limited experience, cows with good grazing/food opportunities arenít a problem for corn or protein feeders. We had to fence them out, but loose barb wire would work. There was always grass and the land owner took good care of the cattle and the land
Corn, protein, or sweet feed is candy to cattle. No matter how good the pasture is.
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