Sutton/ Val Verde County 2019

[aggieland]

Originally Posted by Fischer

Do you hunt multiple locations in Sutton county? One of your comments says south of town off 403 and another says 8 miles down 189 off of 277. I am surprised that a ranch that close to down was affected considering the historical outbreak locations never reached that far north west. Could you ranch be experiencing EHD not anthrax ? Was a sample tested positive? I did speak to my land owner on 189 near 277 and so far so good but it is still early in the game.



thanks for sharing

I only hunt one place our ranch is off 403 not sure where you’re seeing 8 miles down 189 that must have been someone else’s post. Our land owner found two dead deer today and they have not been tested but the ranch next to us tested positive.


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[BrianG]

^^^ yea I’m down 189 about 8 miles from 277.


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[aggieland]

Update: 10 dead deer now not looking good.


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[Fischer]

Originally Posted by Fischer

Do you hunt multiple locations in Sutton county? One of your comments says south of town off 403 and another says 8 miles down 189 off of 277. I am surprised that a ranch that close to down was affected considering the historical outbreak locations never reached that far north west. Could you ranch be experiencing EHD not anthrax ? Was a sample tested positive? I did speak to my land owner on 189 near 277 and so far so good but it is still early in the game.

thanks for sharing

Sorry for the mistake, you were asking where Aggieland ranch was and there response was south of town on 403. I was thinking it was BrianG that was on 403.

Anthrax has historically hit the southwest corner of sutton county as well as uvalde, val verde, Edwards, Kinney and Maverick. To be as close to Sonora as 403 is scary. You did not mention if a sample was taken from a fresh kill and tested positive for anthrax.

[aggieland]

Originally Posted by Fischer

Sorry for the mistake, you were asking where Aggieland ranch was and there response was south of town on 403. I was thinking it was BrianG that was on 403.

Anthrax has historically hit the southwest corner of sutton county as well as uvalde, val verde, Edwards, Kinney and Maverick. To be as close to Sonora as 403 is scary. You did not mention if a sample was taken from a fresh kill and tested positive for anthrax.

No samples have been taken from our ranch that I am aware of but they were taken on our neighbors ranch and tested positive.


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[Pedernal]

Originally Posted by aggieland

Update: 10 dead deer now not looking good.


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Wow that sucks!!

[aggieland]

Originally Posted by Pedernal

Wow that sucks!!

Yes it does!! Pray for rain!!



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[Pedernal]

There were supposedly some chances of rain but it was further south in val verde... We actually had some rain earlier in the week but it was southwest val verde.

How much rain would it take to kill it off??

[Texas8point]

Originally Posted by BrianG

^^^ yea I’m down 189 about 8 miles from 277.


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Im very close to Juno on 189 and haven't heard of any ranches affected yet.

we are 25 miles from 277

[Fischer]

Hey BrianG,

Are you on the north or south side of 189? Looks like you are approx 7 to 8 miles from JFRITZ who is has been infected. I am only a couple of miles east of your property. I hope the anthrax does not travel east towards your proper but if it does my lease could be next. Any idea when you are going to the lease next for an update? I may try to go weekend of 7/27 and I will provide an update when I return.

[MAP]

I saw on facebook this morning, some lady in the area ya'll are talking about, posted on an agricultural page that she has found 14 dead deer in the past few days and has started rounding up all of her livestock on their family ranch.

[88 Bound]

Originally Posted by MAP

I saw on facebook this morning, some lady in the area ya'll are talking about, posted on an agricultural page that she has found 14 dead deer in the past few days and has started rounding up all of her livestock on their family ranch.

Please post more info on this.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Fischer

Hey BrianG,

Are you on the north or south side of 189? Looks like you are approx 7 to 8 miles from JFRITZ who is has been infected. I am only a couple of miles east of your property. I hope the anthrax does not travel east towards your proper but if it does my lease could be next. Any idea when you are going to the lease next for an update? I may try to go weekend of 7/27 and I will provide an update when I return.

We have property on both sides, but the larger portion is on the south. I talked to my landowner about a week and a half ago and everything was still good. I'm sure the outbreak will only get worse, but hopefully we're spared.
I'm headed up there next weekend the 20th to check things out. I'll report what I find.

[Luckytxtoo]

Originally Posted by aggieland

Yes it does!! Pray for rain!!

I didn't think the rain can HELP. The outbreaks of the existing spores are caused during warmer temps, yes, leading to warm soils. It is the moisture (rain) that causes the multiplication of the spores. Warm runoff...some of it stagnant...mixed with the soil is the breeding cycle. The deer & livestock drink from the pools where this pookey runs off & puddles up in the low lying areas.
JMO
Back in 2009, when we had our outbreak in Juno in 2009, we never found a dead deer on 5k acres, but it devastated the lease. We were in the Anthrax Triangle.
We left and I believe it took years for the place to recover.

[Texas8point]

Originally Posted by BrianG

We have property on both sides, but the larger portion is on the south. I talked to my landowner about a week and a half ago and everything was still good. I'm sure the outbreak will only get worse, but hopefully we're spared.
I'm headed up there next weekend the 20th to check things out. I'll report what I find.

I'll be anxious to hear Brian.

[BrianG]

Rafter W Feed is selling antlers plus G7 that suppose to help the deer resist anthrax. Anyone heard of it? I can’t seem to find any information online.


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[aggieland]

Originally Posted by MAP

I saw on facebook this morning, some lady in the area ya'll are talking about, posted on an agricultural page that she has found 14 dead deer in the past few days and has started rounding up all of her livestock on their family ranch.

I think that's probably my land owner.

[JFRITZ06]

Originally Posted by BrianG

Rafter W Feed is selling antlers plus G7 that suppose to help the deer resist anthrax. Anyone heard of it? I can’t seem to find any information online.


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We talked to them several weeks ago it and they said they were going to start carrying it. I didn’t think they would get it in until this spring.
It won’t help them unless you start feeding it in February/March.

[Texas8point]

Off of Facebook, no idea if it’s valid I’m just putting this out there. Very disappointing

[Doublelunger]

Curious to know if any of the properties experiencing an anthrax outbreak recently had some dozer work done from the new pipeline or clearing cedars, fences, etc.

[Sackett]

Originally Posted by Doublelunger

Curious to know if any of the properties experiencing an anthrax outbreak recently had some dozer work done from the new pipeline or clearing cedars, fences, etc.

The reported outbreaks have been well south of where the pipeline is being put in.

[JFRITZ06]

Originally Posted by Doublelunger

Curious to know if any of the properties experiencing an anthrax outbreak recently had some dozer work done from the new pipeline or clearing cedars, fences, etc.

We haven’t disturbed any soil on our place.

[brianlg31]

Did I read that anthrax is a spore? What keeps it from being blown and just keep spreading? I mean is it inevitable that it spreads all of the known area?

[SlinginStix]

I hunt just south of 403 off PR 4414. We haven’t been out there since early June and all the deer we saw looked good and healthy and no buzzards or dead ones seen. This has me worried pretty bad with it to the north and south of us. No land being disturbed on our place either.


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[Texas8point]

Anyone have any updates ???

[SabreKiller]

No one has been to our lease in the west end of Val Verde/Terrell County since the end of May. I'm going out the last weekend of July to feed and check cameras. I'm kinda anxious and worried at the same time. Back in 2010/2011 we had a big out break of anthrax and we had a big die off. It took a long time for us to come back.

I'll give a report when I get back.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Texas8point

Anyone have any updates ???

Headed out tomorrow.


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[JFRITZ06]

I’ll be back out there the 25th

[Herbie]

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[Texas8point]

Originally Posted by BrianG

Headed out tomorrow.


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Anxious to hear. Text me and let me know over the weekend man. Thanks


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[Etxbuckman]

Theoretically is there a way to inoculate deer against this?

[Texas8point]

Im hearing good news for us at least on 189 in Val verde county. No dead animals.

[daniel044]

Talked with landowner yesterday, no dead livestock or deer yet on our place. Still holding strong. But I fear its just a matter of time.

[Fischer]

Hey BrianG, did you go to the lease this last weekend and did you see anything that may indicate anthrax has encroached on your ranch?

[Texas8point]

Originally Posted by Fischer

Hey BrianG, did you go to the lease this last weekend and did you see anything that may indicate anthrax has encroached on your ranch?

He's went. He said no dead animals on his place. Waiting on details from him on the surrounding area. We are right up the road from him.

[WTN]

I’m near the intersection of 277/55, NW Edwards Co. I was out on Saturday and we appear to be clean for now.

[4barchery]

We hunt off of Cusenberry Rd (Take 277 S for 12 miles and then another 10 or so miles down Cr 406). Has anyone heard of any anthrax out that way? Landowner is on vacation and I cant get the hand to answer his phone.

[BrianG]

I just got back from a long weekend out there. We looked hard for dead animals and only found two deer. It appeared they died some time ago, so hopefully not related to the anthrax break out. We went ahead and put out a bunch of the protein with the G7 additive. It can’t hurt at this point. I talked to the rancher that borders our west side and he hasn’t seen any signs yet. Everyone says it’s pretty bad further down 189 so maybe it’s just a matter of time before it gets us. Fingers crossed! We got all our cameras going so we can take a better census labor day weekend.


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[James]

26 deer found so far on roughly 10k lease in Kinney county where new pipelines are popping up through our place - don’t know if that has anything to do with it. Praying it stops Soon

[Fischer]

Hey Brian, thanks for the update. It is good news your place seems to be in the clear and also the ranch to your west. What is the G7 you talk about? is it already in the protein? Who is the maker? Thanks for all your information.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Fischer

Hey Brian, thanks for the update. It is good news your place seems to be in the clear and also the ranch to your west. What is the G7 you talk about? is it already in the protein? Who is the maker? Thanks for all your information.

It’s antlers plus with G7 additive.


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[Texas8point]

Originally Posted by BrianG

I just got back from a long weekend out there. We looked hard for dead animals and only found two deer. It appeared they died some time ago, so hopefully not related to the anthrax break out. We went ahead and put out a bunch of the protein with the G7 additive. It can’t hurt at this point. I talked to the rancher that borders our west side and he hasn’t seen any signs yet. Everyone says it’s pretty bad further down 189 so maybe it’s just a matter of time before it gets us. Fingers crossed! We got all our cameras going so we can take a better census labor day weekend.


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Glad your spared so far. Im waiting on an update from our place.

[Doublelunger]

I have no idea if this right, but the best i could gather on a G7 additive is that it is antibody that keeps the anthrax bacteria from absorbing iron in its host which it needs to survive. Again not sure if this is right but its what i could gather after researching a couple articles at work

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Doublelunger

I have no idea if this right, but the best i could gather on a G7 additive is that it is antibody that keeps the anthrax bacteria from absorbing iron in its host which it needs to survive. Again not sure if this is right but its what i could gather after researching a couple articles at work

Thanks for the info.

[CoolHandLuke]

We lost a few deer but the rancher vaccinated and livestock loss was minimal. He doesn’t think we were hit very hard as he hasn’t see many carcasses. A small outbreak wouldn’t hurt us as we have been trying to get our deer numbers down the last few years. We hunt a very large ranch with minimal pressure.

[BrianG]

I emailed Sportsman’s Choice about the G7 additive they use. Here’s the response.



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[Doublelunger]

Thanks for the info! I was way off. Hope it helps

[Derekgammage]

Good luck this season everyone. Following.

[jason86]

We are up to about 40 confirmed deaths in Kinney county

[6.5 shooter]

Originally Posted by James

26 deer found so far on roughly 10k lease in Kinney county where new pipelines are popping up through our place - don’t know if that has anything to do with it. Praying it stops Soon

Where are you located in Kinney county?
I’m in the north east corner.