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Old 02-27-2021, 10:18 PM   #1
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I signed up for SpaceX Starlink satellite internet after struggling with 3rd party 4G LTE internet providers. That dish can't get here soon enough! I'm expecting later 2021 before I get the notice that they can service my location, so until then, I'm stuck with crap internet.
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Old 02-27-2021, 10:19 PM   #2
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My mom and dad just did the same. They are up in the mountains @ about 9k' and have cable internet but the reliability and speeds are abysmal.
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Supposed to get my demo model, here shortly.
I'm anxious to see how it performs.
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Old 02-27-2021, 10:29 PM   #4
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I signed up for SpaceX Starlink satellite internet after struggling with 3rd party 4G LTE internet providers. That dish can't get here soon enough! I'm expecting later 2021 before I get the notice that they can service my location, so until then, I'm stuck with crap internet.


Know anybody that has it? I’ve seriously considered it but the high hardware price kind of turned me off the last time I looked at it.

Our internet now is line of sight, and not terrible, but limited to 10mb/s. I know Starlink speeds far exceed that, but I have read mixed reviews about current reliability online.
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Old 02-27-2021, 10:38 PM   #5
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I'm looking forward to the low orbiting satellites polluting the night sky.

I halfway kid, starlink's tech fascinates me but I am not looking forward to the day we're all staring up and just seeing satellites.
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Old 02-27-2021, 10:50 PM   #6
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Know anybody that has it? I’ve seriously considered it but the high hardware price kind of turned me off the last time I looked at it.

Our internet now is line of sight, and not terrible, but limited to 10mb/s. I know Starlink speeds far exceed that, but I have read mixed reviews about current reliability online.
Reliability will be based on several factors, #1 being the amount of satellites in your area.
Your field of view will also need to be fairly wide.
If you live in a hole, surrounded by trees, you're probably not gonna like it.
Live at the base of a hill, or between 2 steep hills, you're probably not gonna like it.
Also the Beta version is unlimited data, but that doesn't mean it will be unlimited once they leave beta, you may have data caps.
Even still, the low latencies people are seeing in beta, means it will blow current satellite service away regardless of data caps.
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I'm looking forward to the low orbiting satellites polluting the night sky.

I halfway kid, starlink's tech fascinates me but I am not looking forward to the day we're all staring up and just seeing satellites.
You and me both!!!
Same as having to look at windmills, or showing up out west to hunt, and they sunk a bunch a wells in what was pristine nature.
Progress is good and all, but it ain't worth a **** in some aspects.
We'll be telling stories in 20 yrs, about how you used to be able to look into the night sky, and see nothing but a endless array of stars.
I'm sure there's a lot more coming to, other than just Elons sats.
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Old 02-27-2021, 11:01 PM   #8
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You and me both!!!
Same as having to look at windmills, or showing up out west to hunt, and they sunk a bunch a wells in what was pristine nature.
Progress is good and all, but it ain't worth a **** in some aspects.
We'll be telling stories in 20 yrs, about how you used to be able to look into the night sky, and see nothing but a endless array of stars.
I'm sure there's a lot more coming to, other than just Elons sats.
Amazon will be throwing a bunch up too.

My next adventure will involve going somewhere dark to stargaze like it's the last time I'll be able to do so.
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Amazon will be throwing a bunch up too.

My next adventure will involve going somewhere dark to stargaze like it's the last time I'll be able to do so.
No "like" to it.
It very well may be the last time, especially at the rate they are currently being launched.
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Old 02-27-2021, 11:30 PM   #10
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Been using it for few months. It's amazingly fast. No complaints. As far as satellites go 99% of the population can pick one out of the night sky.
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Old 02-27-2021, 11:39 PM   #11
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Been using viasat for years and can't stand it! Signed up for notifications a few months ago for starlink and just got the email last week that it will be available soon and I put my $99 deposit in, anything has to be better than viasat or Hughes net

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Old 02-28-2021, 01:03 AM   #12
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I'm on the list too..
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I'm looking forward to the low orbiting satellites polluting the night sky.

I halfway kid, starlink's tech fascinates me but I am not looking forward to the day we're all staring up and just seeing satellites.
I hear ya..supposedly starlink is working on a way to mitigate the night sky pollution..im assuming through glare? You'd think with what they can do that'd be easy..problem would be the ones already orbiting I presume

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Old 02-28-2021, 01:37 AM   #13
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Any info on actual pricing? Thanks.
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Old 02-28-2021, 02:00 AM   #14
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We've paid our deposit and hope it becomes available.
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Old 02-28-2021, 02:16 AM   #15
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99 pre order..499 for equipment when ready to ship..99 month service fee

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Old 02-28-2021, 07:06 AM   #16
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Live view of the starling satilites. Pretty cool, getting to be less and less gaps.

https://satellitemap.space/indexA.html
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Old 02-28-2021, 07:37 AM   #17
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I am excited that I may be able to get service it in the bond g bend area, but $99 just for a promise of service?
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:20 AM   #18
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Also the Beta version is unlimited data, but that doesn't mean it will be unlimited once they leave beta, you may have data caps.

That’s one of my main concerns. Drop $500+ on hardware and be stuck with it if service prices go up or data caps are introduced.
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Old 02-28-2021, 08:21 AM   #19
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If y’all haven’t seen the Starlink satellites yet, you’re not looking. They are there.

I’ve seen them several times, the first of which we were walking to the blind for a hunt in Dec 2019. I think we counted 27, but later found out we missed the first half as the actual count was 60. By the time they are finished launching there will be tens of thousands of them.

I also read the more recent ones have an anti-reflective coating to lessen their visibility.. basically it’s “space camo”..
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Old 02-28-2021, 09:44 AM   #20
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I am excited that I may be able to get service it in the bond g bend area, but $99 just for a promise of service?
It's refundable if you choose to opt out before they ship you dish when its ready.. I think one of the main reasons he did it was to show money coming in

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Old 02-28-2021, 09:53 AM   #21
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If y’all haven’t seen the Starlink satellites yet, you’re not looking. They are there.

I’ve seen them several times, the first of which we were walking to the blind for a hunt in Dec 2019. I think we counted 27, but later found out we missed the first half as the actual count was 60. By the time they are finished launching there will be tens of thousands of them.

I also read the more recent ones have an anti-reflective coating to lessen their visibility.. basically it’s “space camo”..
Yup freaked me out at first hunting waiting in the dark and watching lights follow in line through the sky
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Old 02-28-2021, 09:54 AM   #22
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I have no other options than line of sight and the terrible geo sync satellite. Current sat is slow, expensive, and just terrible all around. My line of sight some company is really spotty. We go down for at least an hour or two once or twice a week. I'm looking forward to this product... When I signed up, it said late 2021 and I'm here in Liberty Hill.

You can download the app and stand where you want to put your satellite. It will let you "see" what obstructions around you will mess with the signal. If I mount it on top of the peak of my barn, it would be obstruction free.

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Old 03-25-2021, 11:16 AM   #23
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Anyone get their equipment yet?
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Old 03-25-2021, 11:40 AM   #24
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:10 PM   #25
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What speeds can one expect?
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:10 PM   #26
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60 more sat's deployed yesterday morning. Curious what the total number is so far
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Old 03-25-2021, 12:24 PM   #27
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Got it on order for Central Texas. Can't get here fast enough.

Can't do line of sight unless I built an 80 foot tower according to the tech that came out.
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Old 03-25-2021, 01:35 PM   #28
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60 more sat's deployed yesterday morning. Curious what the total number is so far
There are over 1300 Starlink Satellites in orbit as of today. I have been using the equipment and it is crazy fast. No issues to date.
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Old 03-25-2021, 02:19 PM   #29
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There are over 1300 Starlink Satellites in orbit as of today. I have been using the equipment and it is crazy fast. No issues to date.
That's awesome
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There are over 1300 Starlink Satellites in orbit as of today. I have been using the equipment and it is crazy fast. No issues to date.

Faster than fiber optic cable? Comparable?
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Faster than fiber optic cable? Comparable?
No, well depends. THEY say they will get 300 before EOY. I pay for gigabit at my house in Austin sop that isn't even close BUT 300 is pretty fast and you can stream movies, online game, and be on internet at same time at that speed.
That said, if you can get that then you aren't their target market. 200 would be super fast for many rural areas. I'm looking at getting off the hot spot where I'm getting 100mbs which is ok but I'd like to have my family out where we can video conference to work at same time with confidence.
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Old 03-25-2021, 03:59 PM   #32
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I put in my pre order back in October I think. Hoping it comes soon.
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No, well depends. THEY say they will get 300 before EOY. I pay for gigabit at my house in Austin sop that isn't even close BUT 300 is pretty fast and you can stream movies, online game, and be on internet at same time at that speed.
That said, if you can get that then you aren't their target market. 200 would be super fast for many rural areas. I'm looking at getting off the hot spot where I'm getting 100mbs which is ok but I'd like to have my family out where we can video conference to work at same time with confidence.
300 means nothing without good latency.
You can do everything you mentioned on 25 or less if you have true highspeed internet.
100 will support multiple households without issue if your latency is low enough.
As to Slicks question, no its not gonna beat fiber at present, from a bandwidth perspective.
It all travels at the speed of light in theory(true speed of light requires a vaccum), the equipment\medium it travels through, is where the hold up occurs.
Sorta like a car.
You can have a Vette, and I can have a Vette, but if your cruising down a paved road, and Im over here in the grass, Im never gonna keep up, even though our cars run at the exact same speed in theory.
Very few people have any idea how much internet they are actually using, but 500mb or a gig connection just sounds good.
They give it to you in the city because its no big deal and they know you'll never use it.
If people were actually taxing gig connections, they wouldnt offer it, but they know you won't, it's just marketing.
You can run a whole neighborhood off a gig without issue in 99% of the US.
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300 means nothing without good latency.
You can do everything you mentioned on 25 or less if you have true highspeed internet.
100 will support multiple households without issue if your latency is low enough.
As to Slicks question, no its not gonna beat fiber at present, from a bandwidth perspective.
It all travels at the speed of light in theory(true speed of light requires a vaccum), the equipment\medium it travels through, is where the hold up occurs.
Sorta like a car.
You can have a Vette, and I can have a Vette, but if your cruising down a paved road, and Im over here in the grass, Im never gonna keep up, even though our cars run at the exact same speed in theory.
Very few people have any idea how much internet they are actually using, but 500mb or a gig connection just sounds good.
They give it to you in the city because its no big deal and they know you'll never use it.
If people were actually taxing gig connections, they wouldnt offer it, but they know you won't, it's just marketing.
You can run a whole neighborhood off a gig without issue in 99% of the US.


What’s considered a good latency? Same thing as “Ping” on my Speedtest app?
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What’s considered a good latency? Same thing as “Ping” on my Speedtest app?
Good is relative.
If you're under 20 you will most likely never have issues.
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Thanks Hatter... I'm out in the middle of nowhere myself but fortunately have a cell tower less than a half mile from my house so we get a good signal all over my property. I can stream movies, face time and upload/download files on multiple machines with my air card now... It's cheap so I'm not sure what this satellite thing will do for me... If it's like this satellite TV crap I have, I got no use for it... When the weather gets bad and I really need to know what's going on weather-wise, the dang satellite TV goes out and I have to use my laptop or phone for weather anyway... Will this starlink be susceptible to weather outages?
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Paid my $99 Looking forward to it. GVEC internet is horrible.
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Starlink advertising 150mb/s with 20-40ms latency. That’s practically the same as cable, etc., so if it’s 40ms or less, the vast majority of people won’t ever notice. Hatter is spot on that the speeds we get are so overblown, it’s just sounds and feels good to have Gigabit, etc. For reference, I was an engineer at Cisco for 15 years. We had a medium sized lab in our office supporting service provider, federal and enterprise customers. That lab also linked into our global network/shared resources with all Cisco lab network, etc. Then we had the employees in the office, the Telepresence rooms, blah blah blah. The circuit that supported that entire office was a 30MB Ethernet (business circuit) from AT&T. As Hatter said, 25-30 MB will support any modern household “if” it’s a good, low-latency connection. Our “25mb/s” HughesNet service at the ranch is practically unusable. Cant stream a YouTube church service. We’re on the Starlink list as well and I can’t wait to get it. Should it work as advertised (or even close to it), I expect it’ll be game changer for many.
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Currently getting about 8mps with 140 latency. Cant wait for Starlink to get here
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Old 03-27-2021, 12:35 PM   #42
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on the topic of data caps, do yall know if adblockers will prevent the ads from consuming data or does it just keep it from displaying to the user? i'd be pretty upset if my data plan was eaten up by ads.
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Any updates on this?
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Any updates on this?
I'm still waiting.....
Told us a few weeks back we would be getting our demo, but crickets.
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Any updates on this?
It's coming guys. They are actually ahead of where I thought they would be especially dealing with covid. They are pushing to get them out. Something like this obviously has never been done before and they fact they had little to no idea what equipment or how the install would go in Jan 2020 yet they have systems running is pretty impressive. I still think in the end they will have a plug and play with no installer needed. That is their goal in the end.
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It's coming guys. They are actually ahead of where I thought they would be especially dealing with covid. They are pushing to get them out. Something like this obviously has never been done before and they fact they had little to no idea what equipment or how the install would go in Jan 2020 yet they have systems running is pretty impressive. I still think in the end they will have a plug and play with no installer needed. That is their goal in the end.
Hope you are correct. I will be moving in about 2 years where satellite internet is the only option. Have not been encouraged by the current options available.
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Old 05-17-2021, 11:29 AM   #47
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Hate to keep bringing this up, but any updates? Wife is starting to pressure me to get internet at our new place.
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It's coming guys. They are actually ahead of where I thought they would be especially dealing with covid. They are pushing to get them out. Something like this obviously has never been done before and they fact they had little to no idea what equipment or how the install would go in Jan 2020 yet they have systems running is pretty impressive. I still think in the end they will have a plug and play with no installer needed. That is their goal in the end.
Except most rural people couldn't connect their devices if it was plug and play lol. We get a ton of calls from people who are sitting at home, complaing about their internet service, and when the tech shows up they are still on cellular service, and not even connected to their wi-fi lol.
Gonna take some years to get the hillbillys up to speed.

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Hate to keep bringing this up, but any updates? Wife is starting to pressure me to get internet at our new place.
Nothing in our area yet, but he's rolling em out fast as he can.
Sat night we had a bonfire, and counted well over a hundred of the satellites coming over in about a 6 hr period, as well as an appearance from the space station.
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:34 PM   #49
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We will be moving soon to a place in the country in Hill county. Looking forward to this as I was expecting serious internet issues there.
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Old 05-17-2021, 12:38 PM   #50
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Must be what I saw a little while back. 8-10 evenly spaced lights in a line trucking across the early night sky.
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