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Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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We decided when we retired at age 67 in 2020 that my wife would wait until she turned 70 to start taking he SS payments. She and I are in the group that she was able to take 1/2 of my SS draw per month without affecting my payments. She has contacted and is starting to draw her SS soon and in contrast to what it would have been in May 2020, this time around her monthly payments are almost $2000 per month higher than if she had started in 2020. We were fortunate to have other options until she turned 70, but DANG wait 2 years and right at $2000 a month more. I guess there are times that waiting and being lucky pay off!
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#2 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Mar 2010
Hunt In: North central Tx, Kansas
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I've understood consistent with what you've stated, that the lower income spouse has the option to draw from his/her own SSA, or receive 50% of the amount that the higher income spouse receives. The part that I'm not clear on is "when" the lower income spouse is able to draw the 50% of the higher income spouse's benefit.
She wasn't able to draw 50% of your benefit amount until you hit full retirement age (67ish) and starting drawing, correct? And since she opted to wait until 70, how was her benefit increase determined? I'm assuming that due to her waiting, her benefit is now more than 50% of your benefit amount, correct? Last edited by Plain Lucky; 03-16-2023 at 03:27 PM. |
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#3 | |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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Not everyone can do the 1/2 draw from the highest paid family member that has retired. We were just lucky as we could. Not sure how here benefit was determined at this time, but for us it was a way higher amount than we thought. I draw some SS and also some TRS retirement, BUT, my SS payments were docked due to me also drawing SS! They call it double dipping which is total BS! My little SS and a little TRS does not even add up to what her monthly payment is. We are just lucky in having decent retirement other than SS but $2000 more per month for her was a shock. Just hope SS does not think that was a mistake down the line and dock her payments until we REPAY for their mistake. This happened when they found out my TRS pay. |
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#4 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pittsburg, TX
Hunt In: The World
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I am confused.......
If I start drawing my SS, my wife can also get a check from SS off what I paid in? |
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#5 |
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2020
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I am confused also. Even though my wife worked for many years, she receives about a 1/3 of what I receive in Social Security. In fact, her "take home", the amount she actually receives each month, has gone down each of the last 3 years. This is a result of her Medicare cost increase has been greater than her SS adjustment. My experience has been SS is a total rip off and the fact some win and some lose in the system makes me even more certain of that fact.
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#6 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Golden Triangle
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#7 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Smiley, Texas
Hunt In: Gonzales & Young Co and anywhere
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What would her lump sum payout would be since she was able to collect? I was planning on doing the same as you until my cousin who is the same age as me had a stroke. I decided to draw my SS after that and I could take a lump sum from the time I was elgible or have my monthly SS increase about $30 a month. The lump sum was over $15,000 so that was a no brainier. It's a gamble but I'm wondering how much you left on the table since you waited until 70. My break point to break even was to draw and live to 82. With my family history I wasn't taking that chance.
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#8 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Coastal Bend
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I’m gonna grab it early at 62 and put it in another investment account is my plan now. Government has been mishandling my money for years and I figure if I can get it into logical investments I should come out better off
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#9 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Aug 2009
Hunt In: Young county
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If I read the payment percentages correctly, between 67 and 70, she’d have to be pulling in $8000 a month in SS to get that kind of jump.
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#10 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Round Rock
Hunt In: Rockdale/Caldwell
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Grab it early. My breakeven point was 82 and we think alike on the government, the funds might nit be there tomorrow.
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#11 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Crawford, Texas
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#12 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In a tiny home
Hunt In: My dreams!
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82 is the break even for most (maybe all).
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#13 |
Ten Point
![]() Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: New Orleans
Hunt In: Roosevelt, TX
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Taking it early, usually means taking 20% less. Everyone should at least consider taking at your FRA. The OP took advantage of a few things, but one was delaying for 8% annual increase until age 70.
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#14 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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#15 | |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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To put it bluntly, we have other means of retirement funds that we have not even accessed yet that makes the SS payment look less than attractive. We have been extremely in investments and such. We are hopefully not leaving anything for the GOV as we have no children and will spend as we like within reason. Not sure what it takes to retire and enjoy retirement. Time will tell. |
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#16 | |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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#17 | |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2018
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HUGE difference in money |
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#18 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2018
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#19 |
Ten Point
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Weatherford
Hunt In: United States
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We took mine at 62 mainly because I still had kids in high school. That moved the break even to about 85. That's about my checkout date according to my parents. I'm not going to sweat it, If I live longer I'm not going to be able to do much anyway. It's mostly play money for us anyway.
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#20 |
Administrator
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fort Bend County & Shiner Texas
Hunt In: Lavaca County & Alberta
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Exactly what I am going to do. I have run the models for me and wife and cannot make it work financially or logically to defer even to 65. Pay off for us is around 80 years old before the deferment starts to pay off. Even longer if I invest the amount and draw interest on it.
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#21 | |
Ten Point
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Round Rock
Hunt In: Rockdale/Caldwell
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#22 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Leander / Liberty Hill
Hunt In: Kerr county & TP&W
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I'll do mine at 65 1/2...next month. Wife will have to wait another 3 years. At that time we'll see which option is better for her/us.
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#23 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
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Before long the govm’t will say your net worth is to high and you get zero. I am taking what I can as soon as I can and reinvest and pay taxes again on those gains…
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#24 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Pandora, Texas
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The numbers do not work out the same for everyone, a simple spreadsheet can and will prove that. Some folks retire at 62.5 , will spend up to 2/3 of their monthly check just for health insurance.
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#25 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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We do and what we are doing works best for us. Everyone is different and sometimes whatever works for one couple is not works for others. Sort of like bows, what is the best for one may not be the best for another.
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#26 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Smiley, Texas
Hunt In: Gonzales & Young Co and anywhere
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Don't forget inflation and cost of living increases. $3000 4 years ago is worth about $2000 now.
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#27 | |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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I was just stating what we decided and how it worked out for us, not to start an argument. Sorry. Last edited by Mudslinger; 03-16-2023 at 09:15 PM. |
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#28 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Coastal Bend
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Mud. Just glad you retired and able make decisions and able to enjoy. My SS will be penalized because of pension income. I also plan to invest my SS into traveling as soon as I get it. Figure we should be able to do a few xtra trips a year with whatever they give us. And I’d rather start the trips the earlier the better
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#29 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Mar 2010
Hunt In: North central Tx, Kansas
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For those saying they plan to draw early at 62: if you continue to work, drawing early can be a very bad idea. Every situation is different but be sure to check into whether or not you make less than the allowed amount or your monthly benefit amount may be reduced.
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#30 | |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Apr 2007
Hunt In: Upton County
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Get it when you can cause there is no telling what the Dems will do in the future. |
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#31 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Sep 2018
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you will have to earn more than 8% each and every year to beat the increase in the SS benefits each year to your age 70 (not to mention COLA increases) - SS increases a guaranteed 8% for each year you wait to take it
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#32 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Wyoming
Hunt In: Wyoming
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The way we have it planned out with our financial planner is that I will not start drawing SS until I am 70 and my wife will start drawing at 67. The difference in what you will get by waiting is substantial.
We have saved/invested and will have plenty to live on so we have the ability to wait. That is assuming health etc remains in tact. Everybody’s situation is different but for us, waiting makes the most sense financially. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#33 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Colorado Co.
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Anyone have a link to this? I'm curious if my wife can get 1/2 of my amount since she will wait to draw hers.
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#34 | |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jun 2016
Hunt In: Wisconsin, New Mexico, Colorado, Montana, Idaho
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My personal opinions on SS aside, I am glad it is working out for you. My mom ran into a similar situation to yours, and it really benefitted her. Granted, if I ask her how much she put in, I never get a straight answer, but that is another story! |
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#35 | |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Texas
Hunt In: East tx
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https://carsonallaria.com/2023/01/09...-still-exists/ |
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#36 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Texas
Hunt In: East tx
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#37 | |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sheridan, MT
Hunt In: Montana
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8% per year doesn’t add up to a $2,000 per month increase in 3 years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#38 | |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sheridan, MT
Hunt In: Montana
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The max ss benefit if you retire in 2023 at age 70 is $4,555. ![]() Where does anybody see a 1 time/ lump sum payout option for ss? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#39 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Rogers TX
Hunt In: Bell County, Limpopo South Africa
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#40 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sheridan, MT
Hunt In: Montana
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I took mine at 64. My breakeven was 15+ years waiting to 66.
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#41 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Coastal Bend
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Mud everyone that makes above the cap pays the same amount. I was hourly and always felt like I got a raise once I reached the cap. I think now it’s about $130k. When I was working it was less and for some reason 118 or 108 comes to mind
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#42 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: In a tiny home
Hunt In: My dreams!
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My calculations show that taking my SS at 70 vs 62, it will take 10 years just to break even.
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#43 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Round Rock
Hunt In: Rockdale/Caldwell
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On this scenario the break even is 83 y 9 no. 66 years 6 months being full retirement age. Investing that extra 42 months of lower payments will push the breakeven further out in my opinion, maybe I'm missing something.
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#44 | |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I retired in January of 2023 and I can vouch for the max at 70... Wife retired in Nov. 22 at 65 and her's is half of mine... We don't owe anyone anything (except the Lord who owns it all anyway), so we live quite well on our gubment checks... ![]() |
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#45 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Dec 2009
Hunt In: Colorado, LaSalle, McCulloch Counties
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If you have a high income after filing for ss. They will steal a good chunk of it due to the income penalty for Medicare. Our Medicare income penalty is around $1000 a month. And you still have to pay for your Medicare supplements.
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#46 |
Eight Point
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mineral Wells Texas
Hunt In: Young and Palo Pinto counties
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I went to a social security work shop last night.
At 62 -75% At 67-100% 70-135% Of course the government wants you to die at 69 and you get 0%. |
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#47 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Apr 2014
Hunt In: Votaw, Del Rio, Eldorado, Bon Wier
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#48 |
Pope & Young
Join Date: Jun 2016
Hunt In: Wisconsin, New Mexico, Colorado, Montana, Idaho
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160k. My how inflation has bumped that number up. I think it was 14x,*** last year...
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#49 |
Pope & Young
![]() Join Date: Apr 2014
Hunt In: Votaw, Del Rio, Eldorado, Bon Wier
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![]() ![]() This ^^^^ is what I’m looking at. Is it worth the wait? 81 years old is about the break even right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . Last edited by AntlerCollector; 03-17-2023 at 11:31 AM. |
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#50 |
Ten Point
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: The Colony
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I'm taking next year at 63 but the wife has to wait till 67 which is 3 more years. Then mine will jump up to 50% of hers.
Last edited by Bassdeer; 03-17-2023 at 11:29 AM. |
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