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Old 04-06-2021, 02:22 PM   #1
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That is the Question....



Should I take off the tin foil hat and vaccinate?
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Should I refuse because the vaccine has mini robots in it and "Big Brother" can give me diarrhea with a push of a button and spy on me?

but on a serious note.... Yay or Nay?
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:25 PM   #2
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Nay for me but my wife did, I just told her to do what she thinks is best for her. I have never had the flu vaccine either and have never had the flu. If I get the China flu and die, I'll be hugging Jesus!
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:27 PM   #3
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I won’t be getting it.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:28 PM   #4
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I rec'd the J&J, but I based it on having an immune deficiency and coaching baseball and a son who is everywhere. No issues before or after.
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Do it.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:31 PM   #6
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Pass. There is already a cure.....several actually. I have them on standby ready to go.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:31 PM   #7
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Had a Sister die of it and a Brother that died of complications a few months after he had it so I got mine.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:32 PM   #8
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Awesome another Covid vaccination thread....just what we need around here.


Folks getting the vaccination and folks telling them how stupid they are...
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:32 PM   #9
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Pass. There is already a cure.....several actually. I have them on standby ready to go.
There is / are??? care to elaborate on the cure(s)?
effectiveness, side effects, etc.?
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:33 PM   #10
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Do it.

I did mine and little to no ill effect. I was tired a little bit the next day but is all. Im out and about all the time for work so it made sense.

Surprising though my wife got the covid and i had to quarantine with her in the house. Never got it and got tested for it multiple times.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:33 PM   #11
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Awesome another Covid vaccination thread....just what we need around here.


Folks getting the vaccination and folks telling them how stupid they are...
Clearly it was worth your time to read and respond to it, thanks for your contribution
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:34 PM   #12
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Heck, makes me want to get another round of shots.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:34 PM   #13
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My wife and I have been complacently lukewarm to this whole deal. What’s our actual risk profile? How bad would it suck to find out we should have taken it more seriously? We didn’t get fired up one way or the other, never freaked out and locked the kids down from school but also didn’t go licking door knobs. We were never impacted personally except that our neighbor across the street did die due to the severe respiratory distress or whatever that COVID causes. Knocked him down and killed him pretty quickly.

So this whole time, I relied on science and statistics and objective risk perception to govern my level of concern. It helped make informed decisions and to see thru all the internet dumbassness. It’s still weird that I was skeptical/complacent about whether to rely on the same science and statistics and risk perception in deciding whether to get the shot. But I got it, and lemme tell ya the 5G connectivity that comes with it is fantastic. Never again have to worry about the slow transfer rates of LTE, especially when refreshing webpages with Distill to try and catch the next primer drop.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:36 PM   #14
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....If I get the China flu and die, I'll be hugging Jesus!
This is how I feel about the vaccine; if it kills me, I'll be in a better place. Scheduled to receive the first dose on 04/20.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:37 PM   #15
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I don't get out much, figure my risk of getting the real thing is pretty low so don't plan to get it. I've never gotten the flu shot either so there's that. Wife's a nurse, I told her she should probably get it and she was ******, told me to stfu. lol. Besides all that, I had a foggy/dizzy head for about 2 mouths in early summer so for all I know I've already had it.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:37 PM   #16
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Your life, make what you think is best. I will take my chances with Covid. Good friend of mine's wife after getting it had serious kidney and liver issues after the shot. Care flighted her to houston icu for a week and doing better now. This really sealed my deal on not getting it. Rare case not to scare anybody. My parents got it today and I think they should have. Different circumstances call for different people.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:38 PM   #17
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Awesome another Covid vaccination thread....just what we need around here.


Folks getting the vaccination and folks telling them how stupid they are...
My family all got the vaccination.
But, you didn't answer the question, again.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:40 PM   #18
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a little more info about me and why I'm contemplating it....

We have two babies under 4 years old and a wife who is allergic to many things.

I had to go to a funeral last weekend and I know a few people attending have had Covid-19. I was worried to say the least while I was there, because there's no telling who else in that family could have had it or still carrying the virus and if I get it from someone, then I risk my family's health (and maybe life)...
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:42 PM   #19
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Clearly it was worth your time to read and respond to it, thanks for your contribution

Love a good trainwreck...
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:43 PM   #20
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My family all got the vaccination.
But, you didn't answer the question, again.

I've answered the question many times....do a search,....AGAIN
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:46 PM   #21
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Wife & I both got the Phizer vaccine series. Both of us were symptom free. FWIW I wouldn't trust any medical advice from an internet hunting forum...read published & peer-reviewed material, understand potential side effects and make your choice.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:47 PM   #22
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The Bookful Blockhead, ignorantly read,
With Loads of Learned Lumber in his Head,
With his own Tongue still edifies his Ears,
And always List'ning to Himself appears.
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Name a new Play, and he's the Poet's Friend,
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Nor is Paul's Church more safe than Paul's Church-yard:
Nay, fly to Altars; there they'll talk you dead;
For Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread.[3]


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Distrustful Sense with modest Caution speaks;
It still looks home, and short Excursions makes;
But ratling Nonsense in full Vollies breaks;[3]

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Anti vaccine prophetess is nonsense @ best !
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:48 PM   #23
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I've had my first one and second scheduled for 4/19. The ONLY reason i got them is that i have a few big trips/vacations coming up and there may be a risk of having to show proof before and airline allows you to travel. Not sure that will happen, but there is a risk and I NEED a vacation!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:49 PM   #24
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My entire family got the Pfizer vaccine and I am very happy we did.

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Old 04-06-2021, 02:49 PM   #25
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I'm not getting it. I have changed nothing since it started (that I wasn't forced to), continue to work, go to stores, ball tournaments, etc. So I figure there's very little chance I havn't already had it. I was sick a couple times last year. No one I'm associated with is contact tracing, so I won't be quarantining.

My wife is a teacher, and they are still contact tracing. So if she's "exposed", she'd have to quarantine and miss work. With the vac. she would not be required to quarantine if "exposed", so she got the shot.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:51 PM   #26
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Wife & I both got the Phizer vaccine series. Both of us were symptom free. FWIW I wouldn't trust any medical advice from an internet hunting forum...read published & peer-reviewed material, understand potential side effects and make your choice.
Published and peer-reviewed....by whom? The same idiots who have a 50/50 hit rate since this mess started?


I'll take my chances with rednecks.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:52 PM   #27
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My family all got the vaccination.
But, you didn't answer the question, again.
His wife made him get it!
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read published & peer-reviewed material, understand potential side effects and make your choice.
My issue is there is no study of the side effects beyond a year. They simply do not know what will happen in 2 years. The "No side effects" is as accurate as the CDC saying face mask work, wait they dont work, they do work, wear 2 of them, wash hands, you now have a 1 in 10000 chance of catching the sweet and sour sickness from touching surfaces.

Bottom line is do what YOU think is best for you but no one knows the true side effects.
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:58 PM   #29
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I just got my first round of Pfizer Monday. I figured the side effects of the shot were probably better than actually getting Covid.
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Published and peer-reviewed....by whom? The same idiots who have a 50/50 hit rate since this mess started?


I'll take my chances with rednecks.
And you're free to do so
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Published and peer-reviewed....by whom? The same idiots who have a 50/50 hit rate since this mess started?


I'll take my chances with rednecks.
Rednecks are the best
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Old 04-06-2021, 02:59 PM   #32
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Definitely Nay for me and my household nor for any of my relatives and I have a Lot of relatives!
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:00 PM   #33
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My issue is there is no study of the side effects beyond a year. They simply do not know what will happen in 2 years. The "No side effects" is as accurate as the CDC saying face mask work, wait they dont work, they do work, wear 2 of them, wash hands, you now have a 1 in 10000 chance of catching the sweet and sour sickness from touching surfaces.

Bottom line is do what YOU think is best for you but no one knows the true side effects.
mRNA vaccines have been heavily studied and in development for over a decade. Covid-19 is just one such that uses that technology. There are tons of peer reviewed articles discussing the technology, however you are correct for this particular vaccine the data is limited.
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His wife made him get it!

. Funny but actually true.. well her auto immune disorder “made” me do it.
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:04 PM   #35
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I'm not getting it. I have changed nothing since it started (that I wasn't forced to), continue to work, go to stores, ball tournaments, etc. So I figure there's very little chance I havn't already had it. I was sick a couple times last year. No one I'm associated with is contact tracing, so I won't be quarantining.

My wife is a teacher, and they are still contact tracing. So if she's "exposed", she'd have to quarantine and miss work. With the vac. she would not be required to quarantine if "exposed", so she got the shot.
Same boat.
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My issue is there is no study of the side effects beyond a year.
I agree with this, which is why I was hesitant to get the vaccine - however, the exact same argument can be made for actually getting covid. There is no telling what the long-term effects will be.
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This is how I feel about the vaccine; if it kills me, I'll be in a better place. Scheduled to receive the first dose on 04/20.
I like your logic! And agree CJ 7's are cool
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:05 PM   #38
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Since I'm a teacher and coach, we all had the chance a couple of weeks ago to get it. I originally signed up for it, but after trying to read all the BS paperwork they have you sign, I decided against it. One of the first pages was about how its an experimental drug and not cleared thru the FDA. It probably doesn't make any difference if its cleared or not, but I'd rather them experiment on rats, monkeys, or yall instead of me. I don't hold it against anyone who wants to get it, but at this time, I won't be.
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Folks getting the vaccination and folks telling them how stupid they are...
There is a MUCH bigger narrative going on how folks who choose not to vacs are the dumb ones J...c'mon man!!

My thoughts on it are well known, but do not care if one chooses the counter outside of my personal household.
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Report published today makes me wonder how often the pro Rona vac folks will have to get boosters. They don't seem to have a clue outside of possibly 6 months.
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It definitely doesn’t have little “mini robots” in it, but it definitely isn’t even an FDA approved medication at this point.

I may have to end up getting it because I work in aviation, but unless it becomes a “lose your career or else” I will abstain because...

1.) MRNA manipulation is gene editing... the makers of these vaccines say they “shouldn’t” enter cells and corrupt your DNA, but might if certain enzymes are present. That could lead to unintended genetic alteration with consequences we can’t foresee.

2.) Vaccine producers have been completely absolved of liability, even above and beyond how untouchable normal vaccine producers are.

3.) Almost all brands of the vaccine use stem cells derived from aborted fetuses (HEK-293 and PER.C6 lines specifically) and I object to their use.

4.) All CoVid19 vaccines are still legally in an experimental trial stage approved under an “Emergency Use Authorization”. If/when it completely goes through the standard clinical double-blind trials (like all other medications have to) I might consider one of the brands with an ethically sourced stem cell line.


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My issue is there is no study of the side effects beyond a year. They simply do not know what will happen in 2 years. The "No side effects" is as accurate as the CDC saying face mask work, wait they dont work, they do work, wear 2 of them, wash hands, you now have a 1 in 10000 chance of catching the sweet and sour sickness from touching surfaces.

Bottom line is do what YOU think is best for you but no one knows the true side effects.
Now this is Real common sense!
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:19 PM   #43
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I just got my first round of Pfizer Monday. I figured the side effects of the shot were probably better than actually getting Covid.
Same here. Received first Pfizer shot yesterday. No side effects other than a sore arm and I must say, I can't recall the last shot I had that made my arm this sore. It's not painful, but I most definitely know I got a shot yesterday.

The wife and I did a lot of research on this topic before deciding to take the plunge; which included consulting with multiple doctors.
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There is a MUCH bigger narrative going on how folks who choose not to vacs are the dumb ones J...c'mon man!!

My thoughts on it are well known, but do not care if one chooses the counter outside of my personal household.



BS....not on TBH. Come on Artos!!
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I'm not getting it. Wife and mother in law are both RN's and they are gonna pass too.
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:25 PM   #48
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Just the thought of not tasting a good beer and steak, or smell of rain and fresh cut hay meadow for a year would answer the question for me
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:26 PM   #49
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It definitely doesn’t have little “mini robots” in it, but it definitely isn’t even an FDA approved medication at this point.

I may have to end up getting it because I work in aviation, but unless it becomes a “lose your career or else” I will abstain because...

1.) MRNA manipulation is gene editing... the makers of these vaccines say they “shouldn’t” enter cells and corrupt your DNA, but might if certain enzymes are present. That could lead to unintended genetic alteration with consequences we can’t foresee.

2.) Vaccine producers have been completely absolved of liability, even above and beyond how untouchable normal vaccine producers are.

3.) Almost all brands of the vaccine use stem cells derived from aborted fetuses (HEK-293 and PER.C6 lines specifically) and I object to their use.

4.) All CoVid19 vaccines are still legally in an experimental trial stage approved under an “Emergency Use Authorization”. If/when it completely goes through the standard clinical double-blind trials (like all other medications have to) I might consider one of the brands with an ethically sourced stem cell line.


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This is the best response I have seen so far. Thank you for the info!
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Old 04-06-2021, 03:36 PM   #50
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Just got my 2nd shot today. Might feel bad for a few days but I’ve lost family members to COVID-19 so I’ll take my chances with the shot.
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