Cattle People (hurt bull)

[Wits_End]

Can you post a picture of this bull. That is all.

[brokeno]

Sounds to me that he may have a thorn or sharp stick stuck in his foot. I had one several years ago and he had a roofing nail between his toes. Just wondering how many cows is he with. You may be able to get a few more years out of him depending on how many cows he is serving. Good luck they ain't cheap.

[GREATWHITE416]

Any luck getting him loaded and to the vet?

[Aggiebow88]

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[Dusty Britches]

Originally Posted by Chunky

I have never taken a cows temp. I can’t explain why this has not occurred to me. Don’t know what there normal is.

I might need new equipment

Nah. I've never seen my vet take their temp, either.

I hope today goes well for you. I'm curious, though, you keep saying he's a huge bull but he's Angus so how big can he be?

[GREATWHITE416]

Pretty common for the vet to take their temp. They stick a thermometer in the rectum. At least that is how I have seen my vet get the temp. Hope he is able to get his bull taken care of. I have learned my lesson. If I had another one in a bad way I would get him to the Packer before he gets to bad.

[dclifton]

Originally Posted by GREATWHITE416

Pretty common for the vet to take their temp. They stick a thermometer in the rectum. At least that is how I have seen my vet get the temp. Hope he is able to get his bull taken care of. I have learned my lesson. If I had another one in a bad way I would get him to the Packer before he gets to bad.

Yep best to send to the packer. Im done with vets. Ive thrown to much money at cattle on vets advice and we havent saved one yet. Now i just throw some meds at them and see if they recover if they dont we end up putting them down or a trip to sale barn if they can make it.

[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by Chunky

Guys I would to be thrilled to have a vet come out, but they won’t. If you don’t have them in a squeeze shoot, no dice.

I once begged and pleaded and offered to pay double, when I had a cow down that couldn’t get up.

If you know a vet, northeast Houston, let me know.

He did not come to feed. He is lying in the little strip of woods at this moment.

I am going to try and give him L200 when my daughter gets here. Have no clue how that is going to go.

Thanks so much for responding.

We have the same problem getting a vet to come out to our place. Seems the old vets that made "house calls" are a dying breed and all the new, young vets want you to bring your animal to them. Merde!

I was going to posit either hoof rot or a sprain. Ours tend to obtain sprains after they've been fighting (cows, too). Usually, they get over it on their own.

However, the fact that your bull is down and won't come to food is concerning. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to the LA200. You'll know more then.

[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by stinkbelly

Lots of trailer places rent stock trailers.

Could it be tetanus? They will walk really stiff.

If you need to give him shots, rope him and choke him down. It isn't fun for anyone, but if done right you can give him shots and live to tell about it. Remember to let off the rope as soon as he falls.

I've never heard of this. How is it done?

[CB_TxNole]

In for an update.

[Chunky]

[ThisLadyHunts]

Originally Posted by gingib

Thats crazy to me that a bull can't be used as a herd bull after 7-8 years old.

We had a vet come out to pull a calf in the middle of a pasture. It got western and had to rope the cow and tie her to the truck. But this is in a small town

Where is this vet located?

[Chunky]

Here is a pic. Sorry I am slow on the update. It took us an hour but we got him loaded. Took him to a vet and dropped him off. Have not heard from them, it might be tomorrow as it’s first come first served. He may have been slightly better today but still a bad limp.

I have a cow dropping a calf at the moment, more later.

[nativeaustin]

He is a pretty boy.

[BUCKSTAR]

Hoof warts? Spray with iodine

[RascalArms]

He’s a big boy...good luck with getting him well.

[MASTERS]

Originally Posted by Randy

I'd guess he has hoof rot or maybe something between his hooves. Hard to say without seeing him.

I would put him in a lot so you limit his movement and walking. Then you can watch him a little better and figure out what is wrong. If he is calm enough you can give him a snoot of banamine in the mouth for inflammation. A shot of dex would probably do him a world of good.

Id agree and also look for screw toe(corkscrew claw, hoof screw, etc) don't take much of their hooves crossing to make a bull lame in a short amount of time. when they have giving up on their mind its hard to get them stood back up.....

[Lone_Wolf]

Originally Posted by Benno

Is he your only bull?
If he’s that bad I’d be looking for a bull before I spent a year feeding unbred cows.

THIS^^^^

Cut your losses and borrow a trailer and get him to the Auction while you can. I'm sure theirs some way to get him in a trailer. C'mon man!

[doghouse]

I'm guessing foot rot. LA200 and sometimes the vet gives them sulfa pills. Just my guess.

[Chew]

Originally Posted by Chunky

Good lord. Maybe he stepped on his own foot.

[Lone_Wolf]

Angus bulls that size and age.....usually time to upgrade. You'd be surprised somebody will pay good money for him. Get you a good young bull. I've watched my Dad go through this for over 25 yrs.

[Dale Moser]

Dr Pol puts copper sulfate on hoof rot and wraps the whole hoof in gause type stuff.

[Benno]

Originally Posted by ThisLadyHunts

I've never heard of this. How is it done?

Rope em, pull tight, they cant breath. Craziest cow in the county will lay down soon enough.

[denimdeerslayer]

I had bull with broke leg. I dug trench for trailer tires on end of my chute to get him loaded to take to processor.

[RR 314]

Originally Posted by Benno

Rope em, pull tight, they cant breath. Craziest cow in the county will lay down soon enough.

Perhaps for ordinary cows, but have you seen the neck on that bull?

Man, that is a solid bull! Hope they get him patched up!

[MadHatter]

Originally Posted by Lone_Wolf

Angus bulls that size and age.....usually time to upgrade. You'd be surprised somebody will pay good money for him. Get you a good young bull. I've watched my Dad go through this for over 25 yrs.

He is well loved from what I gather.
I don’t think that big boy is going anywhere, if it can be helped .

[texasdeerhunter]

That may be one of the biggest brangus bulls I’ve seen lol. He’s stout

[doghouse]

Another guess. Front left foot with foot rot. Am I the winner?

[Wits_End]

Dang he's Chunky.

[Reaper]

That boy is thicc. Hope he gets better, good looking bull

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[AlaskaFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by Wits_End

Dang he's Chunky.

I see what you did there!

[18ncs]

Originally Posted by RR 314

Perhaps for ordinary cows, but have you seen the neck on that bull?

Man, that is a solid bull! Hope they get him patched up!

Ditto this. Hope you get it figured out.

[Chunky]

[Chunky]

I know the smart thing is to get rid of an older animal. Bottom line of course it’s the right thing. But, I have gotten soft in my old age. This boy has been so gentle. I bet over 50 people have crawled on him for a pic. I don’t need the money that badly, I try to take care of my family, friends, and animals, even at a cost.

I do appreciate all responses, suggestions, and comments.

If I find out tomorrow that he can’t be healed and must be put down, I will sleep better knowing I did what I could.

Neither of us mind being called Chunky. :-)
However, when I got that I was about 60 lbs heavier than today. Still not skinny though.

[gingib]

Hopefully you don't get that news, but in the cattle business gotta be prepared for it.

Would you butcher him if so?

[Lone_Wolf]

It appears your cattle are more pets then livestock. To each there own. Usually people don't "put down" big ole chunks of beef like that. That will make a lot a hotdogs.

[jds247]

No more cows than he's covering 7 aint bad as long as he dont come up lame. What kind of minerals are you feeding? I had a bad outbreak of foot rot several years back. Switched to Purina wind and rain loose mineral . Recommended by the vet. I didn't have any more trouble after that.. I did notice before that the same cows will get foot rot again kinda like someone with athletes foot .

[Randy]

If that picture is from today it looks like his rf pastern is swollen. Probably got it hung in something and injured it. Now he has cellulitis from the injury. Id give him about a half hour of hydrotherapy with a garden hose. Just run water over it. Then I'd give him a dose of dexamethasone in the vein. Then id hit him with banamine for the next five days. Id also give an antibiotic. Draxxin works wonders. I think he will be just fine.

[Dusty Britches]

Originally Posted by jds247

No more cows than he's covering 7 aint bad as long as he dont come up lame. What kind of minerals are you feeding? I had a bad outbreak of foot rot several years back. Switched to Purina wind and rain loose mineral . Recommended by the vet. I didn't have any more trouble after that.. I did notice before that the same cows will get foot rot again kinda like someone with athletes foot .

This^^. We leave loose minaeral out year round for this exact reason. We've never had foot rot since we started doing it.

To treat foot rot, put it in a squeeze chute, wash the feet really well. Spray 10% bleach and water solution and saturate the feet. Give boluses, LA200, or any other antibiotic.

[Aggiebow88]

any update?

[powderburner]

call your local High School talk to the FFA teachers. All the FFA Barns have large animal vets that come out to the barn.

We have 2 that come to the barn and one that will not.

[Fmjag64]

In for update

[Chunky]

I don’t treat them all like pets, but I admit I do have an attachment to a couple of them.

If I had no choice, and he wasn’t full of something, meds, I could eat him. It’s not against my principles at all, just would rather save him if possible, even if it’s not the best business decision.

I have mineral tub and blocks out all the time. Have never had an issue with rot to this point.

Still waiting on a call from the vet.

[Anythinghunter8]

been checking everyday bout update of your bull hope hes alright and crazy it takes a vet 2 days to check on him

[doghouse]

Originally Posted by Anythinghunter8

been checking everyday bout update of your bull hope hes alright and crazy it takes a vet 2 days to check on him

Yep^^^^ I would be at his office but I make a living running cattle.

[Chunky]

I posted an update thread, but if anyone comes here looking.

He is doing much better, still a slight limp and the last to get to the pens.

He had an abscess with an infection. They gave him Banamine and LA300.
Washed and bandaged his foot.

I picked up the end of the second day. A little difficulty loading him up, but got it done

Thanks.

[Aggie Dad]

Great news, hope he continues to get bette!

[doghouse]

Originally Posted by Chunky

I posted an update thread, but if anyone comes here looking.

He is doing much better, still a slight limp and the last to get to the pens.

He had an abscess with an infection. They gave him Banamine and LA300.
Washed and bandaged his foot.

I picked up the end of the second day. A little difficulty loading him up, but got it done

Thanks.

If he is still limping in a day are two call vet. He might need another LA300 shot.

[Chubb]

I'm glad your bull is on the mend.

I understand the bull has sentimental value to y'all but, please don't get to comfortable with him. He is a bull.

I have had bulls be gentle for the most part and the next time I mess with them they were bent on killing me. I'm talking run me to my truck and proceed to try and knock my center console out while I was climbing out the passenger side. Up till that point he acted just like the others.